Denied CA lvn license for 2 DUI's

Tiger747 · May 23, 2011

We are on the same page. Thanks for the well wishes. Perhaps stereotype wasn't the best choice of words.

Cheers!

alexiscc · May 24, 2011

Aye Aye Aye, I typed up a long response and my son hit refresh...and now it's gone! Anyways..in a short statement. Yes I agree with you both. My point was not to say that people with misdemeanors are bad people. My significant other is law enforcement, and all it takes is a "They hit me". It doesn't matter if he knows its one hundred percent BS...he or she is going to jail. It's a shame, and it's not always right. As for the botox, perhaps it was a bad example. I wasn't stating it was a lack of experience. I work in plastic surgery so obviously I have no problem with botox, fillers, or whatever your heart may desire lol. My point was simply to say that it's not fair to lump people in one age group and call them immature and unworldly, but then say that its unfair to stereotype all people with criminal histories. I'm not here to stir the pot, in fact I agree with you that many people have BS charges that have stuck with them for a very long time. I think that anyone with a simple misdemeanor charge should have the right to present their case before live bodies, and in a timely manner so that they aren't unemployed for a year while the BON drag their feet. I definitely do wish you the best of luck, and I hope the BON will realize you are an intelligent, and obviously determined person. The BON also needs to realize someone who is irresponsible, and makes poor decisions would more than likely NOT make it through nursing school. Again, I wish the very best for you =)...and perhaps we can chat politics another time! Take care,
Taylor

The thing is that getting through nursing or medical school is not an indicator of person who doesn't make poor decisions... there's been doctors and nurses with spotless record who's been murdering patients. There should be no "case presenting" or "digging into past" for misdemeanors--there should be a list of time limits for each type of misdemeanor, as to felonies, there should be a list of barring felonies (abuse of elderly, sexual abuse, etc), the rest should just have time limit--if person had not re-offended, no questions should be asked. Everyone, including holier than thou types can find themselves in trouble, when they least expect. Just one contact with the wrong person can result in it...

Miss_Taylor · May 24, 2011

That's scary. You think someone who has a misdemeanor of domestic violence should have a time limit and it just should just be waved from their "permanent record" without any questions asked??? Or theft, loaded firearm in a public place, indecent exposure. All of these things are recognized as misdemeanors, and the list goes on. You cannot place a "time limit" on a crime committed because every case is different! A man punches a wall...domestic violence. A man beats the you know what out of his girlfriend, misdemeanor. Sure it has the potential to be a felony, but nine out of ten times the DA does not take the case on. So do you truly think it fair to put the man who punches a wall with the man who tried to obliterate his girlfriend? Or do you think it's safe to say okay guy who beat up his girlfriend, you have to wait five years, and you have to be on your best behavior and not kill your girlfriend, but then we will give you a license no questions asked...That's just crazy. That's like saying there should be a set jail time for people who commit crimes. There is a reason we have court, judges and trials.

alexiscc · May 26, 2011

Sorry, misdemanors always had about 5 time limit after which the records were detroyed by the clerk of the court. It is only recently that these minor offences became attached to the permanent electronic record following a person.

If you want to come here and hate on people,... why don't you write a letter to congressmen or something? This Big Brother thing will get you too, trust me :) NO QUESTIONS should be asked for misdemanors, after certain time had elapsed. Holier than you types: you all will too slip and fall, one day or fall to organizations like the one in TX where a digruntled manager or a dishonest manager who coerces a nurse to provide sexual favors can permanently ban you from any local employment. As to "domestic violence" misdemanors: a lot of these cases are either false reports or reports by women who live off men who pay their bills who provoked them or cheated on them. I've seen a lot of this.

Trauma Columnist · May 28, 2011

Please get back on topic.

This forum is to be supportive.

This is NOT the political forum.

BabyLady, BSN, RN · May 28, 2011

Help!! I recently graduated from LVN school iin California this past Sept 2010, took my blood/IV cert class, and then went on to PASS NCLEX. However, the day I recieved the letter I passed my NCLEX exam the BVNPT sent a second letter stating that there will be a delay until a criminal investigation is complete. Now after a 3 month wait I recieved a letter stating that I had been "Denied for LVN license"! From the very beginning, prior to being admitted into nursing school I told them upfront and the board about my past DUI's. I had one back in 2001 and then unfortunately another one in 2008. I know this is my fault and I take full responsiblity. I have completed all rehab classes, paid all fines ect... I was in the food and beverage industry for 18 years and decided to change my lifestyle for the better after my second DUI. I have always wanted to be a nurse since I was little girl and now my dream is shattered! I do not have the money to pay for a lawyer, especially after spending $37,000 for a private LVN school. Has anyone ever....went to the administrative hearing on their own??? What are the chances that I will ever get my license? Can I still apply to another state after being deined in California? I would greatly appreciate it if anyone has any answers. Thank you

You can apply in another state, but with two DUI's and one very recenty, you are going to run into the same problem as soon as they complete a background check. Our state won't give someone with a DUI a license within 5 years of the offense.

Another obstacle, is going to be with an employer...they are used to seeing one DUI, but two...that is going to be tough to overcome.

You state that they are giving you an administrative hearing...I suggest you go, lawyer or not. That is your opportunity to plead your case.

kryvn10 · May 28, 2011

For anyone in california trying to get their nursing license after a deniel, IT CAN BE DONE! You will 99.9999% get a probationary license with a time limit (it won't be forever). You will need to basically lay your life out there and convince the board that you deserve to get the license with tangible facts. Here are thing you absolutely need:

1. Letters of recommendation from employers, friends, family, pastor etc. Basically anyone who has anything good to say about you.

2. Show rehabilitation. Take classes, documented sobriety date, have a mentor.

3. Have consistent employment. Yes, even if its not in healthcare employment shows stability and responsibility.

4. Pay all traffic or be up to date with payments for traffic fines.

5. Own up to your mistake (to the board) Explain it but don't excuse it.

(Optional)

6.Volunteer. You need all the positivity you can get to get that license.

The board only considers the case brought before them. It is possible! This website is very helpful. You will get an idea on how the board handles hearings.

http://www.bvnpt.ca.gov/enforcement/disciplinary_action_documents.shtml

octaviaM · Jun 3, 2011

Thank you so much for the encouraging words. I am going to go to the appeal hearing and fight like heck to show them that I have changed and accept responsiblilty. I still just don't get why my nursing school would even allow me to enter into nursing school, after I told them about my 2 past duis. Also, I signed a criminal background check form that the school gave me for them to do their own check on me. I am still glad and grateful for my education but I have spent SOOO much money, studied and past the nclex and now denied. I am still in shock!

Thank you again for the list of items to complete and the link. :)

deedee23 · Jun 8, 2011

I have graduated nursing school, taken and passed my NCLEX, and now the board will not give me my license until they investigate a misdemeanor that was in 1996... I provided Court documentation of the expungment and they said it was not good enough, that they want the court minutes! I wasted 18 months of my life, time, my husband supportn.g me while in school, not to mention $29,300. in student loans. I am even the Class Valedictorian! Me and my family are devastated...I should not have to continue to pay for a mistake 2 decades ago... but I guess this is the Boards way of making our family suffer...so now I have nothing...

kzimmermann · Jun 8, 2011

For anyone in california trying to get their nursing license after a deniel, IT CAN BE DONE!

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the tips! This is totally helpful detail that I could use, and hopeful as well. :)

DSkelton711 · Jun 8, 2011

I made my booboo in 1986! I have adopted a child by passing all sorts of background checks, have worked for the board of education even though they knew of it. Now I want to pursue my BSN at the age of 50 and may not be able to do so!!! DUIs are not expungible in my state-ever. The state BON has taken things to the extreme and something needs to happen. I do see a problem with 2 DUIs as this may show a pattern. However, I think after a certain time a DUI should disappear. Mine will never.

nursehopeful2011 · Jun 10, 2011

I don't have a DUI, I have other charges, but I think state BONs need to have a list of convictions that would result in not being able to get a license. My nursing school did tell me the BON would do a background check, and that my convictions may or may not matter. The thing is, the background check my nursing school performed did not show either one of my convictions, it was clear. But I knew I would still be taking a chance with the BON. I even called the BON and was told my convictions shouldn't matter, but even they couldn't give me a clear answer. The only thing I can do now is turn in all my paperwork and pray that they give me a chance. The dean at my school said it could take months to hear from them, so that means it's going to be a very long summer waiting to see if my dreams of being a nurse are crushed.

It's possible for convictions to not show up on a background check? Are you sure the convictions were listed on your background? I am very interested because I have to have a background check done before going to clinicals, but I have traffic offenses on there.

Any suggestions? Glad it worked out for you.