Denial letters from OU - reasons?

Goodoldnurse · Jan 4, 2007

Did you take A & P seperatly? That is now required in many programs. Also the more courses you take with a college affiliated with them, the more points you get. There are other LPn-RN programs, so you might try applying to those. Good Luck!

dottimur · Jan 4, 2007

Wondering if anyone received denial letters from OU and what their reasoning was - if dont mind sharing. I am confused about their A&P requirements. I was told that because of their demand they are asking for increased credentials even for the LPN to RN programs would love feedback. Thanks

Were you denied entrance to the LPN to BSN program? My understanding is that you must take Anatomy separately from Physiology to get into OU's program. Were you told the reason you were not accepted?

Do you meet all the requirements at LPN to BS

heath55 · Jan 4, 2007

Thank you for your replies. I am getting different answers when I talk to OU, hate to say it but they seem very disorganized. Been working with them for a year and all was okay until now. My APs were taken as a 4 credit hour class, lecture worth 3 credits and lab 1, this included my micro and chem. I cannot get anyone to say yes you have to take all seperate. I have not been given a reason for denial - that is currently being researched. Did all else, passed NLN challenge exam first time around, did get a C in chem but hey I am proud of that one! I read a post stating that gpa needed to be over 3.7 for sciences and I do not have that so maybe that is it. All prereq done. I figured maybe they are getting so many applicants they can drive the gpa up and scores on NLN. They should let people know check box or something the reason why especially if they have poured some money to them for these things. They could have a check box for gpa, nontransferable courses....whatever. Because I am now leary of them (I would have to pay out of state tutition which is $$$$) I am now going the traditional route at home, but the two semesters would have been nice, now I have three semesters and more driving but will save about $15000. I am finding that once you get pass the PR people there it is icy.

LanaBanana · Jan 4, 2007

I was told by the nursing person at OU-Tulsa (and I kept her e-mail) that they would accept A&P1 and A&P2 as combined courses if they were both 4 hour courses with lab from an accredited school. Then Micro needs to be at least 4 and Chem 1 at least 4 hours. They require at least a 2.5 science GPA, but competetive is much higher.

caliotter3 · Jan 5, 2007

An acquaintance was trying to get into nrsg school several yrs ago and was getting all kinds of problems. She was told by one school that they did not even consider her application b/c they had not received one of her transcripts, putting her out of the running. She went to the office (as I recall, she was not being passive at all about getting into a program), and had the person there get her folder. Of all things, when the folder was opened, what was sitting on top of everything? The envelope with the missing transcripts was there, unopened. She went ballistic. The school officials said there was absolutely nothing they could do about the situation. And, of course, other than the post mark on the envelope, there was no proof of when the envelope was received by the school. My take on all of this: good example of what to expect from the nrsg school support staff. One could expect that maybe things got "lost" regularly around there. BTW this particular school had (like many schools) quite a reputation about being difficult from the student perspective.

Rather than obsess on reason you weren't accepted at this program, I think you would be better off spending your energies into finding the program that will accept you.

caliotter3 · Jan 5, 2007

I also had a friend who ran into the proverbial brick wall with a university BSN program several yrs ago. However, they had more of a "leg" to stand on as they put it. They were not favorably considering her b/c she had literally not graduated from high school. (She left home at 15 and became emancipated. She later went to a community college without going to high school at all and graduated with nearly a 4.0 average). In our state, if you are over 18 you do not need a high school diploma to go to a community college. The argument she got from these people, therefore, was not logical. She was an honors graduate of a 2 year college with A's in her nursing pre-req classes. She ended up getting an ADN from Excelsior. I lost touch with her so I do not know if she ever got a BSN.

marilynmom, LPN, NP · Jan 6, 2007

I also had a friend who ran into the proverbial brick wall with a university BSN program several yrs ago. However, they had more of a "leg" to stand on as they put it. They were not favorably considering her b/c she had literally not graduated from high school. (She left home at 15 and became emancipated. She later went to a community college without going to high school at all and graduated with nearly a 4.0 average). In our state, if you are over 18 you do not need a high school diploma to go to a community college. The argument she got from these people, therefore, was not logical. She was an honors graduate of a 2 year college with A's in her nursing pre-req classes. She ended up getting an ADN from Excelsior. I lost touch with her so I do not know if she ever got a BSN.

I had this problem with OU awhile back. I was homeschooled so I don't have a transcript or a high school diploma. I went to CC when I was 17 and made straight A's. When I got done with all my NS pre-reqs they still wanted my high school transcript and didn't seem to "get" that I was homeschooled. I finally had to go up there to get it straightened out, they were so stupid. I ended up going to UCO for my BSN (I want to get my NP) where I continue to make high grades high school or not...LOL.

So ya, to the OP don't waste your time or energy worrying about why they rejected you. Many of the admins at colleges are idiots it seems. Focus your energy on where you CAN get accepted!!!

teebee · Jan 6, 2007

So ya, to the OP don't waste your time or energy worrying about why they rejected you. Many of the admins at colleges are idiots it seems. Focus your energy on where you CAN get accepted!!!

Yep, I agree. It's not worth your time or the frustration in dealing with folks that are already giving you the run-around, it will likely get worse. I applied to a different program at OU last year... I'm thankful now that I didn't get accepted.

In my experience, most schools will not give you an absolute, concrete, definitive answer as to why you were not accepted. They may "advise" you on how to make your application more competitive for the next time - there may be several things like taking A&P separately, improving chemistry grade, or whatnot that will improve your application. Sometimes... it feels like it's just another scheme to get you to spend more money on tuition before you get rejected again!! :uhoh3: At least that's how I felt for a while when I was getting rejection letters...

Thing is, when a school is receiving more applications then they have available spots... then it becomes much more competitive and even if you've exceeded all of their stated requirements, you may not get accepted. I can certainly sympathize - I've been there! I didn't get into several programs where I definitely exceeded the minimum requirements, but other people exceeded those requirements better than I!

Sounds like you're checking out other programs which may work out a lot better in the long run anyhow.

Good luck to you!