Debunk myth of online programs

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Hi Everyone,

Will someone please debunk the myth that hospitals do not accept online BSN degrees? If this is in fact true, why?

Thank you!!

i was thinking about going to csu dominguez hills, because they have an online program. it's a csu so fees should be around 12k.

i have watched their nursing program evolve. ten years ago they had live broadcasts for many of their combined online and brick/mortor classes. i have been very impressed with their program. they started online nursing courses long before the dl interest took off. the cost of a cal state university is not that inexpensive now days. they keep raising their tuition. however, you may be eligible for fee waivers. however, now that the governor signed an authorization enabling non documented people to get government fee waivers and scholarships, this will impact everyone in the cal state system. there will be less money to go around and many who got fee wavers last year may not get it this year. the funds, which is derrived from calif taxpayers, will go to poor illegal aliens instead.

i wanted a private college, but its 40k (ranked in the top 100 on us news.!!! i don't know if it's worth going through a bsn program that is 40k, especially if i want to go to grad school. what are your thoughts? an expensive bsn program that is nationally ranked, or csudh which is around #300. don't waste your $'s on an expensive private school. csu los angeles is ranked fairly high and is a good program. i know they have an rn to masters program. i don't think they have an online program though. csu dh is a fine progam and the cost does not mean that it is a poor quality program. if you want to spend more money, apply to ucla's program.

also, what is with the clinical experience? is it mandated by the state to have clinical hours for a rn to bsn track? it seems like some schools have it and others don't. don't worry about your clinical experience with the cal state program. you will do it with the local facilities. for public health you will probably do it with the local community health dept.

all in all the cal state university nursing programs are fine, they have been accredited for a long time, and the cost is affordable. i went to csu la before family illness caused me to stop the brick and mortor program. i am now in dl and it is working just fine.

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I'm so glad someone touched this topic. I want to know when I write the SCHOOL and STATE on my resume, wouldn't it be obvious that it's an online program? Would employers choose a BSN grad from a brick and mortar school instead of me? I spoke to my old DON about this who has always been a brick and mortar student and she said it doesn't matter. My Associates program was brick and mortar.

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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

No, hospitals REALLY don't care, as long as you have a BSN. The hospitals that really care about the BSN, most likely care due to Magnet status. The Magnet people certainly don't care if it was online.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
No, hospitals REALLY don't care, as long as you have a BSN. The hospitals that really care about the BSN, most likely care due to Magnet status. The Magnet people certainly don't care if it was online.

*** The ANCC (Magnet people) has no requirement at all for staff nurses to have BSN, or for a certain percentage of staff nurses to have BSNs.

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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
*** The ANCC (Magnet people) has no requirement at all for staff nurses to have BSN, or for a certain percentage of staff nurses to have BSNs.

Their goal by 2020 is for Magnet hospitals to have an 80% BSN rate, and any facility who is looking for Magnet designation must have an official plan in place by 2013 to achieve that 2020 goal.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Their goal by 2020 is for Magnet hospitals to have an 80% BSN rate, and any facility who is looking for Magnet designation must have an official plan in place by 2013 to achieve that 2020 goal.

*** I don't believe that has been anounced. Do you have a sourse for that?

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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
*** I don't believe that has been anounced. Do you have a sourse for that?

No, only what my hospital's Director of Magnet Status stated to me, after having attended an international Magnet conference in September. I specifically asked her about it because it's discussed so much here and I wanted to get it from the horse's mouth. And she said that was the plan, and all the current magnet facilities are aware of it.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.

No, only what my hospital's Director of Magnet Status stated to me, after having attended an international Magnet conference in September. I specifically asked her about it because it's discussed so much here and I wanted to get it from the horse's mouth. And she said that was the plan, and all the current magnet facilities are aware of it.

*** Well she is incorrect. It is a proposal only and not a requirment. I hardly consider your hospital Magnet person to be "the horses mouth". When somebody from the ANCC, speaking as an official says it then I will have heard it from the "horses mouth".

Wow your hospital pays a person to be "director of magnet status"? You guys must be rolling in money

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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

I wouldn't say they're rolling in money, but they do have a lot of donors. Childrens hospitals tend to get a lot of donors. I don't know if "Director of Magnet Status" is her official title, but she's the person who's in charge of everything related to Magnet. Our hospital has received Magnet designation three times, so I imagine there's quite a bit of work involved every time it comes time to recert.

No, it's not a requirement NOW, but it's in the works for it to be a requirement for 2020. I have no doubts that it will come to fruition, as do many hospitals, which is why more and more facilities are making requirements for BSN. They see the writing on the wall.

I look at it like the requirement for a DNP for NPs by 2015. No, it isn't an *official* requirement YET, but everyone pretty much knows it's going to be one, which is why universities are phasing out their MSN/NP programs.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.

i wouldn't say they're rolling in money, but they do have a lot of donors. childrens hospitals tend to get a lot of donors.

*** i wonder how those donors feel about their money being used is such a meaningless and frivolous manner rather than on this that could actualy improve care for children?

i don't know if "director of magnet status" is her official title, but she's the person who's in charge of everything related to magnet. our hospital has received magnet designation three times, so i imagine there's quite a bit of work involved every time it comes time to recert.

*** so in addition to the tens of thousands of $$$ they spent and continue to spend on magnet certification, they have at least one full time employee handeling magnet certification. where i one of the donors i would ask how this employee benifits the care of children.

i look at it like the requirement for a dnp for nps by 2015. no, it isn't an *official* requirement yet, but everyone pretty much knows it's going to be one, which is why universities are phasing out their msn/np programs.

*** i am not nearly as sure as you that dnp will be a requirment for nps. true that many universities are, or have, changed over to dnp, many are not.

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Wow, I'm so impressed!! Thank you for all of your replies!! I love your input on this topic!! I am so grateful for this online nursing community!!

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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
i wouldn't say they're rolling in money, but they do have a lot of donors. childrens hospitals tend to get a lot of donors.

*** i wonder how those donors feel about their money being used is such a meaningless and frivolous manner rather than on this that could actualy improve care for children?

i don't know if "director of magnet status" is her official title, but she's the person who's in charge of everything related to magnet. our hospital has received magnet designation three times, so i imagine there's quite a bit of work involved every time it comes time to recert.

*** so in addition to the tens of thousands of $$$ they spent and continue to spend on magnet certification, they have at least one full time employee handeling magnet certification. where i one of the donors i would ask how this employee benifits the care of children.

i look at it like the requirement for a dnp for nps by 2015. no, it isn't an *official* requirement yet, but everyone pretty much knows it's going to be one, which is why universities are phasing out their msn/np programs.

*** i am not nearly as sure as you that dnp will be a requirment for nps. true that many universities are, or have, changed over to dnp, many are not.

you definitely seem to have some weird bone to pick, so i'm going to bow out now. peace.

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