crna market saturation

DMURSE1 · Jan 23, 2009

Tell her to stay in management. money isn't everything. She obviously doesn't know the CRNA job market or the power of the AANA.

loveanesthesia · Jan 23, 2009

I can understand her concern, but there are major differences between the educational process of NPs and CRNAs. To meet the standards for accreditation and for certification, there are strict requirements for the clinical experience for CRNAs. NPs require much less experience, and many NP programs have the student set up their own clinical experience. They accept NP students without establishment of the clinical experience. That just won't fly with CRNAs, and I think is a problem with NP education. It does allow NP programs to expand quickly and dramatically. A CRNA program has to establish clinical experience availability in all speciality areas of anesthesia prior to accepting a student which limits the growth of programs. Nursing deans don't like it because often the nurse anesthesia program in their college is the only graduate program turning away applicants. They want the tuition dollars and have asked the CRNA accreditors to 'prove' that all that clinical experience is necessary. CRNA educators feel strongly that it is, and are carefully guarding the CRNAs ability to regulate the CRNA educational process. I beleive there will continue to be a strong demand for CRNAs for the far into the future.

stanman1968 · Jan 23, 2009

No, I do not. Jobs may become tighter in "select" read urban areas but overall it will still be good.

gluck · Jan 24, 2009

Related question: is pay (adjusted for cost of living) better in certain areas, urban v rural, region of country, what have you ...?

n_g · Jan 24, 2009

If more states license AA's, more AA schools open, and more CRNA schools open in response, yes we will hit a saturation point very quickly. It may happen sooner than most of you think. One day it's all great, and then next month the market goes off a cliff. Isn't that how most bubbles end?

stanman1968 · Jan 25, 2009

If aliens land tomorrow and provide the citizenry with molecular remodelers no one will have to work and it will be paradise?

If, if, if, stop laying so much manure N_g_.

Qwiigley, BSN, MSN, DNP, RN, CRNA · Jan 28, 2009

Managers in general hate to lose good staff to higher education and even more so to anesthesia school. Continue with your dreams, but remember money is not everything. Go for what you love and you will not work another day in your life, you'll be enjoying life each day.

perkizme · Jan 28, 2009

I wouldnt think it would happen too soon with many CRNAs headed toward retirement (so I've heard). Having enough CRNA faculty can factor in - this is an issue that has hit nursing overall which drives the nsg shortage. Also I would think overall CRNA numbers only slowly climb with most programs only pumping out 15-30 students a year on avg. People will always need anesthesia svcs (esp with the baby boomers coming of age for incr health issues)- so I would think demand will continue to be great enough for the supply. Dont forget the cost-effectiveness of CRNAs over docs in this wonderful (sarcastically) economy we're in.

IMO :cool:

Ivan Palma · Jan 30, 2009

With the market performing the way it has, I think a lot of CRNA's will be postponing their retirement plans.

And, this recession is already causing a general reduction in elective procedures.

subee, MSN, CRNA · Jan 31, 2009

I heard the same old story in 1982 when I went to anesthesia school (lots of MDA residents then) and I've never worked anywhere that was constantly looking for more staff. Yes, more CRNA's working longer but more aging boomers living longer and more surgeries.