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do the correctionals hire new grads?

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Has 7 years experience.

its really tough to get in in a hospital so maybe ill try to be a nurse in the correctionals?

Orca, ASN, RN

Specializes in Corrections, psychiatry, rehab, LTC. Has 26 years experience.

Nevada doesn't. Our positions require a year of experience.

It would be better for you to get a year of hospital experience before venturing into corrections. Correctional nursing requires a level of independent functioning that a new graduate simply isn't equipped to handle.

jnrsmommy

Specializes in LTC/Rehab,Med/Surg, OB/GYN, Ortho, Neuro.

Never hurts to try. I had friends in Louisiana who went into corrections first job after nursing school.

They hire new grads where I'm from. I applied but didn't get the job. I'm glad because I think i'd be too intimidated by the environment.

eric909

Specializes in Corrections. Has 1 years experience.

california corrections in chino does not hire new grads.

Salinas Valley, SaN Diego, and Folsom hired new grads.

Depends on manager and facility like anything else.

I worked at plenty of places that said they didn't hire new grads, but one day boom there i was working with a new grad.

Don't ever let anything someone says keep you from trying.

Exceptions for everything have been made for various reasons.

you don't want to go into especially being a new grad. I don't know what is worse the officers or inmates. Inmates will throw urine, feces and sperm on you. They like to pull out their penis to see if you get upset. They will say anything to try to get you to trust them. They are not in there because they are nice people. There are fights then you have to patch them up. They fake illness's to see if you will send them to hosp. The officers make crude statements about the nurses so why should the inmates respect the nurse. Get some seasoning under your belt first, tour a prison the worst one in your area. then make a decision. The guards are suppose to be with you at all times when you are with an inmate and they are not so accusations are made. Just be careful. The most rewarding place to work is a nursing home, it is hard work but it is satisfying

Somethings i would like to echo.

Yes, officers are supposed to be with you at all times.

thats what they will tell you when hired.

ask the manager hiring you a million times, and thats what they will tell you.

They may say eventually "depending on whats going on, the officer may have to be someplace else".

well that someplace else happens all the time. Now you can say, well i'm not doing this and that without an officer.

eventually the officers and fellow staff will hate you, so you will have to quit, unless you are one of those wonderful employees that can figure out a way to sue your bosses.

So yes, officers are supposed to be with you, but they will end up not.

and yes, then you will be suspected of giving favors while alone with the criminal, or at least you may be assaulted while alone.

don't let someone tell you that inmates respect nurses so they don't hurt them.

actually opposite.

they will attack nursing staff (inmates that have attacked nursing staff have been interviewed) even if they like the nurse.

1. because they are easier prey.

2. attacking an officer is a felony. attacking a nurse is no big deal (part of the job). they may have got caught, but they are not stupid.

yes, they will fake illness to go to hospital.

its a vacation for them, they get to feel like big whigs because all these extra officers have to watch them (at taxpayers expense), and its a chance to bring in or take out contraband.

So, you get to the point, no matter how good your assessment skills are, you have to decide if this guy is faking, or if he really is sick.

If you miss something, you will get sued.

Threats to be sued are nearly daily.

Even good nurses miss things.

HeartsOpenWide, RN

Specializes in Ante-Intra-Postpartum, Post Gyne.

A classmate of mine just got hired at a Prison in California. He is starting out at $85,000/year. Not to bad for some one in their early twenties. Not the job for me, he on the other had was made for this job!

spongebob6286, BSN, RN

Has 7 years experience.

Salinas Valley, SaN Diego, and Folsom hired new grads.

Depends on manager and facility like anything else.

I worked at plenty of places that said they didn't hire new grads, but one day boom there i was working with a new grad.

Don't ever let anything someone says keep you from trying.

Exceptions for everything have been made for various reasons.

thank you for that advice tirzo!

spongebob6286, BSN, RN

Has 7 years experience.

one piece of advice of a very good friend of mine who works in a detention center is to be really tough and just do your job!

Orca, ASN, RN

Specializes in Corrections, psychiatry, rehab, LTC. Has 26 years experience.

About 90 percent of correctional nursing is how you carry yourself. Set limits early and word will get out. You will definitely be tested by inmates, but if you show them that you are going to work by the rules that will slow to a trickle. I read a couple of very pessimistic assessments earlier in this thread, and all I can say is that I'm glad I never worked where those people have. I have worked in and around corrections for almost 30 years, and only the last eight have been as a nurse. I was once a correctional officer in a medium security prison and I have worn some other hats as well.

The ironic thing is that I went into nursing to get out of corrections, and I wound up right back in it. It has been an interesting career to say the least. If you find the right spot it can be the best job you ever had.

working in min security is much different then max. I have seen tough nurses get beat and nurses who are less tough get beat, you have to remember these men have not been with a woman in years. They dont even give the nurses walkie talkies to communicate with officers even they are to be with you. The guard was with me when I had urine, feces and sperm thrown on me. what can you do to him he was already in the hole. Where I worked we had to wear dresses, I objected this because you have to walk up tiers and inmates and officers look up and both make comments. I left there because it was not a safe environment no amount of money is worth getting beaten or raped. The prisons need to come up with a way to safe guard the nurses and female officers. Inmates have thrown a female officer off top tier. she died. Again I say it is NO place for a new grad.

i grew up in the streets, so i got alot of street smarts, and street cred. if you grow up in the burbs, its going to be really hard to make it. Even with knowing how to handle and carry yourself, knowing how to give respect, knowing how to earn respect does not keep things from happening to you in this environment.

you can handle getting punched or urine thrown on you better, but does not keep it from happening to you.

I been spit on and threatened, i have had shot callers look out for me, some requested favors that they did not get, some did it because the last nurse they had did not even say "whats up" to them.

but still, some guys won't even listen to the shot callers.

so you have to weigh the risks.

increase in pay, different but less physical work then hospitals (don't want people yelling at me for saying its easier!!!!), helping murders and rapist vs helping victims, getting body fluids and assaulted vs. whatever is the worse that can happen to you at a hospital.

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but there is good and bad in everything.

i myself would rather know what the bad is.

if you date a man or women, don't you want to know the bad things about them. thats what is going to hurt you, the good should be a given.

I myself want full disclosure about things, not just sugar coated.

I am not sugar coating it. If it is something you really want to do then by all means do it. They have nothing but time to think of things to get your information, and follow your routine. If this is what you want good luck to you. Just have eyes and ears open. good luck with what ever you do.

tirzo13 I have been reading all your posts on correctional nursing and was initially interested due to the pay. However being a female re entry nurse I was also very intimidated. In one of your posts you mention the Yountville veterans home and your interest in working for the veterans. Are you working there now? I have been working at a blood bank for the past three years and have no acute care experience besides dialysis for 8months, five years ago and a few months of maternity nursing as a new grad. I have worked in a nursing home as a CNA and it was really hard work but I enjoyed helping the elderly. Do you think the Yountville veterans home would be willing to train new grads or re entry nurses? If you got a job there how long did they orient you? How is the working environment. Your response is greatly appreciated. I am searching for a good place to get a good foundation in acute care nursing. I am in Los Angeles but I would be willing to relocate.

is your friend an LPN or a RN? 85k u say? wow!

is your friend an LPN or a RN? 85k u say? wow!

New grad RN at San Quintin gets 8500+ a month.

state pay for RN is great. As is LPT pay.

State pay for LVN is very low.

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