PLEASE don't do it! - page 4

Hi fellow correctional nurse's. I'm having a hard time convincing a coworker of mine to stop making contact with an inmate. I've tried to explain to her that they can be manipulative and that she can... Read More

  1. by   ohmeowzer RN
    is she crazy?
  2. by   Sunshine22
    Georgia used to have the law of 1-3 years for being w/ an I/M. According to our Warden, the law has changed to 10-30 years and you do at least 10!!! I haven't had any of my nurses to do this, but I have had 2 admin. assist. to do this within the last 6 months. One of my admins. was here for 5 years before she found 'her' man, and then the next one was here for less than 6 months before she lost her job to the I/M. They were both told very firmly upfront and all thru the course of their jobs what the consequences would be.

    The reason that most of us just cannot comprehend the mentality of these people is because we have the correct mindset and cannot phathom the thought of this stupidity. We know right from wrong, and understand our jobs.
  3. by   s1shaw
    I here that it happens to guards also....they meet up with these inmates and lose it all.....
    More so than the bad attitudes, I've been told to "harden myself" for the cry baby stories....that is how they attempt to suck you in....
  4. by   Sheri257
    Quote from Susan103161
    More so than the bad attitudes, I've been told to "harden myself" for the cry baby stories....that is how they attempt to suck you in....
    Oh yeah ... some inmate was trying to tell me today that he was wrongly incarcerated ...

    I looked up and said: "Save it for your lawyer ... I've heard it a million times. Now, I've got to finish this paperwork regarding your healthcare."

    They're always trying to find out information about you ... where did you work before, how many kids you have, etc. but ... I don't tell them anything about myself.

    :typing
  5. by   JailRN
    The PM nurse and I both have the same first name. We went to nursing school together and she was kind and generous. Also easily munipulated. The jail commander, who was new to us, came STORMING into my office with his face bright red, neck veins distended, and smoke pouring out of his ears. "What kind of a car do you drive?", he yelled. I told him. (I was scared to deathand KNOW I got a few more grey hairs.) "You don't drive a new jeep grand cheroke?"....."Uh, no, that's the OTHER one. What's wrong?" "Never mind..I'll tell you later." Turns out this other nurse became involved with an unsentenced inmate. He convinced her to 'lend' him her new car. She was stupid enough to do so. He drove home, showed the car to his PREGNENT wife, and told her, "see this car? This is my b____'s car, my b____ is the jail nurse and I was getting F***** every day in jail." After they pried the woman off of the ceiling, she called the commander. The nurse had told everybody here that she had lent her car to a friend of her daughter's and he hadn't returned it. She hadn't been to work in several days. Turns out THAT's where it was. She had been having sex with him in one of the rooms here.
    Yes, she was fired, lost her pension here and she was also charged with filing a false police report. I don't know what action the BRN took. But there's NO ONE who is worth loosing your license over.
    Your friend should RUN the other way. Also, you may have to report this to the 'powers that be'. I would be in IAB if I knew this and didn't.
    No good will come of this relationship. It is simply NOT worth it. Can't say it enough.
  6. by   Sheri257
    Quote from JailRN
    The PM nurse and I both have the same first name. We went to nursing school together and she was kind and generous. Also easily munipulated. The jail commander, who was new to us, came STORMING into my office with his face bright red, neck veins distended, and smoke pouring out of his ears. "What kind of a car do you drive?", he yelled. I told him. (I was scared to deathand KNOW I got a few more grey hairs.) "You don't drive a new jeep grand cheroke?"....."Uh, no, that's the OTHER one. What's wrong?" "Never mind..I'll tell you later." Turns out this other nurse became involved with an unsentenced inmate. He convinced her to 'lend' him her new car. She was stupid enough to do so. He drove home, showed the car to his PREGNENT wife, and told her, "see this car? This is my b____'s car, my b____ is the jail nurse and I was getting F***** every day in jail." After they pried the woman off of the ceiling, she called the commander. The nurse had told everybody here that she had lent her car to a friend of her daughter's and he hadn't returned it. She hadn't been to work in several days. Turns out THAT's where it was. She had been having sex with him in one of the rooms here.
    Yes, she was fired, lost her pension here and she was also charged with filing a false police report. I don't know what action the BRN took. But there's NO ONE who is worth loosing your license over.
    Your friend should RUN the other way. Also, you may have to report this to the 'powers that be'. I would be in IAB if I knew this and didn't.
    No good will come of this relationship. It is simply NOT worth it. Can't say it enough.
    Just out of curiosity ... Where were the CO's during all of this? Where was the security?

    I can't imagine an inmate walking out of my facility and driving away in a car! There's only one way to get out of our facility and they check every single car, no matter how well they know you. The trunks are searched, every ID is checked.

    There's always a long line of cars during shift changes because everybody has to wait for the security checks. Everything else is covered by an electric fence. If you even go near it, you're fried even if you don't touch it.

    We did have one inmate escape in a garbage truck ... it turns out he was crushed and broke his hip ... they found him at the dump. Of course, now they search the garbage trucks before they go out.

    But to just drive out in a staffer's car? I just can't imagine how that would happen!

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Jul 7, '07
  7. by   justme1972
    I'll give you a great example.

    Where I live there was a guard at a Maximum Security prison that had a "thing" with an inmate, and he got released.

    He came to her house...not sure what happened, but she shot and killed him...she was a single mother of two very small children. They charged her with murder...they haven't released any details.

    Murder or not..Would she have been in that situation if she wasn't fooling around with a former Maximum Security Prison inmate?

    Probably not.
  8. by   JailRN
    Sorry, should have been clearer, he was an unsentenced I/M when they met, went to court, was given 30 days as a trustee, (hah!), and the car thing happened when he was released. She saw him on the outside, too, and it turned out that about 10 other I/M had her cell #, home #, and address....sheeesh
  9. by   Sheri257
    Quote from JailRN
    Sorry, should have been clearer, he was an unsentenced I/M when they met, went to court, was given 30 days as a trustee, (hah!), and the car thing happened when he was released. She saw him on the outside, too, and it turned out that about 10 other I/M had her cell #, home #, and address....sheeesh
    Thanks for the clarification. Although I'm still wondering how a nurse could have sex with an inmate in one of our rooms without getting caught. First of all ... there's no vacant rooms around except for the supply closets and people are in and out of those all the time. And because there are so many CO's around ... it would be damn near impossible in our facility.

    Maybe this stuff happens in the middle of the night when there's less people around? Even so ... when we've had cases of female staff having sex with inmates on the premises ... they were investigated and were caught on video tape. So I'm just curious how this was missed where you work.

    Nevertheless ... I've said it before and I'll say it again ...

    Even if you are completely screwed up in the head, have no self esteem and serious psychological problems ... and don't care if they have HIV, Hep C and all of these other diseases.

    I still can't figure out why anyone would want to have sex with an inmate. Those guys STINK! They smell really, really bad ... ugh. I have to hold my nose every time I do an examination.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Jul 8, '07
  10. by   JailRN
    We're a small, (300), level 1 facility, only have 1 RN on at a time, MD makes rounds BID, contract hospital nearby, so......we have time and resources to.....unfortunately,,,,,and the cameras aren't everywhere....BUT...you're right, they smell, and even if they didn't, there would be NO WAY I would risk it, it's just not worth my license, my reputation and my pension...besides, I like to think I have SOME morals and wouldn't be in bed with someone I met casually. Even co-workers...it's just not a good idea to date them...too much can go wrong, then you're stuck working together................SIGH
  11. by   ohmeowzer RN
    ewww there is not one pt i have met in 21 years i would do that ... eewww
  12. by   Sunshine22
    My secretery would call our trustee down on the weekends when she would come in to catch up on her filing. The nurse would be out on med pass, so everyone knew not to bring any of the i/m to be seen while she was out on med pass. The sec. and the trustee would have about an hour that noone checked on anything to do what they wanted to. I heard thru the i/m grape line that the dental chair was a hot spot!!! YUK!!!
  13. by   Medicine Eagle
    There is a saying we use in the ER. You can't fix stupid. You can treat the symptoms and the traumas after the fact, but you can't fix the root of the problem stupidity! Keep in mind for those of you that don't or have not worked in corrections, that these men spend a great deal of time lifting weights. Alot of them are really good looking, but yuk they are inmates. Some women have very low self images and the inmates really play on it. Sad but true. If I could not do better than that I think I would start hitting for the other team. LOL :smackingf
    TBH

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