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Hello nursing friends.
I am looking for a little help with a homework assignment. I am currently working towards my MSN and eventually (hopefully) my AG ACNP or PNP. I have already searched scholarly resources and spoken to a local AG ACNP. I have looked at society websites for award winner bios. Now I'm wondering if anyone else has examples/ suggestions.
I will be properly citing any evidence given to me and will not plagerize. For reference, our professor is allowing us to use interview to obtain information for this paper. Here is the specific rubric prompt:
"What are some real-world
examples of contributions made by someone who currently practices in your specialty focus, and how have those contributions improved quality outcomes? You may speak with clinical colleagues, your supervisor, or others to obtain this information "
So I would be looking for contributions by MSN prepared RNs, AG ACNP or PNP.
Thanks in advance for any direction you can give me.
Well you're partly right, but I didn't know it when I began skipping down this merry little path. What I can say is there a nothing about my job that being a physician would really change and the cost isnt worth the 15-20%. However, if we pushed for enhanced scientific training, as nurses, we'd be better off as a professional body. It's so peculiar to find nursing in opposition to development.
I'm not against development -- or against improving the quality of nursing education. In fact, I have argued for high educational and performance standards on this site for a long time. But that doesn't mean I feel a need to bash the good work that has been done by nurses over the years.
I value "hard science" ... but I also value the social sciences and philosophy. We need all types of knowledge to be strong as a practice discipline and profession. We need both quantitative research and qualitative research ... and solid philosophical inquiry ... and aesthetic inquiry ... etc. etc. because nursing is such a comprehensive endeavor. More than most disciplines, nursing commits to meeting the patient's needs regardless of what they are -- be they for physiological knowledge or gentleness or intuitive understanding or statistical expertise or physical strength or compassion -- whatever. We can't be capable of all these things without be grounded in all types of knowledge. To limit the types of knowledge we "allow in" our profession would be to limit our usefulness -- and that goes against our culture and purpose.
So I choose to include all types of knowledge in my orificenal -- and welcome high standards regarding the all. I choose not to exclude any of them out of hand and choose not to attack those sincerely trying to contribute as best they can to the well-being of others.
I agree that there are psychosocial elements of healthcare. The philosophy side of things is a bit puzzling. Western medicine is a science-based system. The theories that arise in nursing which seem like little more than philosophical twists to standing psychological or sociological theories is the absence of application and the premise that we can make a profession out of caring. Anyone can care, and it doesn't take any serious degree of education or indoctrination to partake in nursing interventions. The introduction of such things as NANDA, NIC, and NOC are ridiculous. No one outside of nursing understands these, and I submit that most members of nursing think they're ridiculous and would rather have been given more education in various pulmonary pathologies rather than "impaired gas exchange" and vague treatment planning. Presently, RNs are trained in a biology and medicine-lite context with a "nursing" atmosphere. Just what nursing theory has been applied to patient care, and what outcomes can we see that those theories have improved upon? This is what I don't grasp, and it seems ridiculous to beat the drum over and over about how such theories matter particularly when they're not integrated outside of academic health centers.I'm not against development -- or against improving the quality of nursing education. In fact, I have argued for high educational and performance standards on this site for a long time. But that doesn't mean I feel a need to bash the good work that has been done by nurses over the years. I value "hard science" ... but I also value the social sciences and philosophy. We need all types of knowledge to be strong as a practice discipline and profession. We need both quantitative research and qualitative research ... and solid philosophical inquiry ... and aesthetic inquiry ... etc. etc. because nursing is such a comprehensive endeavor. More than most disciplines, nursing commits to meeting the patient's needs regardless of what they are -- be they for physiological knowledge or gentleness or intuitive understanding or statistical expertise or physical strength or compassion -- whatever. We can't be capable of all these things without be grounded in all types of knowledge. To limit the types of knowledge we "allow in" our profession would be to limit our usefulness -- and that goes against our culture and purpose.So I choose to include all types of knowledge in my orificenal -- and welcome high standards regarding the all. I choose not to exclude any of them out of hand and choose not to attack those sincerely trying to contribute as best they can to the well-being of others.
It all comes down to pretty much what psychman is saying. You cannot change the world of diseases without really taking basic sciences first.
Nursing skips out on these.
Patho is not in depth enough at all....... even at the graduate level. Neither is basic chemistry required for nursing programs.
But then again for rns that should be enough. But please require at least a one semester of biochem, organic, and upper level molecular biology/genetics prior to entry into nurse practitioner school. Man it would make us more reputable by a long shot.
Sure, symptom recognition can work a large percent of the time, but to be honest without actually understanding somewhat on a molecular level of what is occurring will hinder patient outcomes more than the ''non holistic care'' that physicians provide according to the AANROFLP
It all comes down to pretty much what psychman is saying. You cannot change the world of diseases without really taking basic sciences first.Nursing skips out on these.
Patho is not in depth enough at all....... even at the graduate level. Neither is basic chemistry required for nursing programs.
Maybe your nursing program didn't require basic sciences, inc. "basic" chemistry. My hospital-based diploma program bused us to a college in another part of town, where we took a full year of organic chemistry (the same o chem that the college's chemistry and pre-med majors took; we were in class and lab with them), a year of A&P (the same A&P course and lab that the college's bio and pre-med majors took, again), and the same microbiology course and lab that the college's science and pre-med majors took, in addition to nutrition, psychology, and sociology. We didn't take a formal, dedicated "pathophysiology" course, but all of our specialty nursing courses covered the pathology of the common disorders of each specialty in significant depth. I feel I got a strong science background in my prelicensure nursing program, in addition to an excellent overall education in nursing. I understand that many nursing programs don't operate that way, but that doesn't mean that there aren't good, strong programs available. Perhaps people should be selective about what program they choose to attend.
I also had a strong science foundation in my nursing pre-requisites. My BSN program was demanding and I studied hard. By the time I got to graduate school I had years of experience and had had extensive in service education. Prescribing was just starting when I got to graduate school and curriculums were catching up. I learned to prescribe working with a psychiatrist who was ok with my interrupting his sessions to ask questions and would come into my sessions to consult. I had enough background to fill in my own learning gaps. And I continue to study and learn.
Oh dear, the attitude of some NP's who, (with 600 or so hours of clinical training), seek to tell the rest of us how esteemed and qualified to diagnose, treat, and prescribe they are (just like physicians really, if only people would believe it!).
Is that what we're doing? I think my whole thesis is that no nurses are trained sufficiently focusing instead on frivolous theory and fluff skills.
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Well you're partly right, but I didn't know it when I began skipping down this merry little path. What I can say is there a nothing about my job that being a physician would really change and the cost isnt worth the 15-20%. However, if we pushed for enhanced scientific training, as nurses, we'd be better off as a professional body. It's so peculiar to find nursing in opposition to development.