Content errors in Saunders NCLEX-RN book?

[Nuieve]

yeah, it's definitely a typo... should be "above normal range"

btw you might want to change the text of the question so that it doesn't exactly matches the CD's one... i think directly quoting material from books/cds is frowned upon on this forum...

[runnerbe]

My answer is # 2

Make sure you read the rationale. The normal O2 is 2L per Doctor's order. and if you have COPD you can increase up to 3L ONLY.

[kalayaan]

yeah, it's definitely a typo... should be "above normal range"

btw you might want to change the text of the question so that it doesn't exactly matches the CD's one... i think directly quoting material from books/cds is frowned upon on this forum...

thanks for the reply. i quoted it exactly just to make sure the question, answer and rationale are understood correctly. i know quoting from directly from the nclex isnt allowed, i didnt know quoting from the book wasnt either. sorry.

[Myxel67]

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[Myxel67]

In nursing school, our med-surg book (Brunner & Suddarth) included asthma in the topic of COPD. After reading link, it is apparently debatable. Probably for the NCLEX it's still COPD.

[Myxel67]

My answer is # 2

Make sure you read the rationale. The normal O2 is 2L per Doctor's order. and if you have COPD you can increase up to 3L ONLY.

I thought they were referring to cardiac output, not rate of O2 flow. Am I confused?

[runnerbe]

Their no way is cardiac output we're talking about here. Just imagine 6L/MINUTE. Thats almost 6000 in a minutes. ARE you sure w/ that question?. or might talking about O2.

[pagandeva2000, LPN]

From what my textbook stated, asthma is listed along with emphysema and bronchitis as COPD. I have also had your experience with Saunders. I think I was studying the second edition (the wine colored book) and was answering a question about hyperthyroidism. I don't remember it well, but I remembered that I had to rule out what was NOT included in that diagnosis, and ALL of choices were definite symptoms of the disease. The answer was DEAD WRONG. I searched other textbooks, the internet, and all proved that it was wrong, and I remembered getting really paranoid, thinking that if NCLEX was going to be anything like this, then, I was in serious trouble.

[Nuieve]

From what my textbook stated, asthma is listed along with emphysema and bronchitis as COPD. I have also had your experience with Saunders. I think I was studying the second edition (the wine colored book) and was answering a question about hyperthyroidism. I don't remember it well, but I remembered that I had to rule out what was NOT included in that diagnosis, and ALL of choices were definite symptoms of the disease. The answer was DEAD WRONG. I searched other textbooks, the internet, and all proved that it was wrong, and I remembered getting really paranoid, thinking that if NCLEX was going to be anything like this, then, I was in serious trouble.

Ah yes, I think I'm on that question now. It claims hypotension is a symptom of thyroid storm. (it is possible, but only as a late sign of shock)

Another wrong question is in the Endocrine system, which claims hyperkalemia is a symptom in Cushing's syndrome.

And another one states, that hyperactive bowel sounds are not present with hypocalcemia (in hypoparathyroidism).

[pagandeva2000, LPN]

Ah yes, I think I'm on that question now. It claims hypotension is a symptom of thyroid storm. (it is possible, but only as a late sign of shock)

Another wrong question is in the Endocrine system, which claims hyperkalemia is a symptom in Cushing's syndrome.

And another one states, that hyperactive bowel sounds are not present with hypocalcemia (in hypoparathyroidism).

And what disgusted me is that Saunders is the main book that people study from and claim is the best. It scared me, and I didn't bother with them anymore. Were you using the second edition or the third?

[Nuieve]

And what disgusted me is that Saunders is the main book that people study from and claim is the best. It scared me, and I didn't bother with them anymore. Were you using the second edition or the third?

Well, I don't think there's a reason to hate the book. I mean, there's so much information in it, it's no wonder that there are few mistakes here and there. Mistakes can be seen in most of the books. I don't think that because of few of them you should not trust the whole book.

The purpose of this thread is not to slash it, but to reveal mistakes and clear any confusion they might cause.

[miss_cy]

i would like a clarification on this question from Saunders comprehensive review cd. i might be interpreting it the wrong way. How can 6L per minute be below the normal range?

thanks for the help.

client's cardiac output immediately after surgery was 6L/minute

this measurement is:

- above normal range

- in the high normal range

- in the low normal range

- below the normal range

Ans. 4.

Rationale. The normal cardiac output for the adult can range from 4-8L/minute and varies greatly because of body size. The heart normally pumps 5L of blood every minute."

obviuosly its in the "HIGH NORMAL RANGE"..common sense... normally its 4 - 8 L/ min...if its 5 then that below normal range...if its 3 then its BELOW THE NORMAL RANGE.