I've been a lurker for awhile, and I know that this post has been brought up 1-2 times in the last 2 years that I've been an RN. So... you grouchy old farts that would rather I'd revive an old post can just stuff a sock in it. I want to gauge opinions based on our CURRENT situation after the shooting yesterday in San Bernadino, CA.
Truth be told, One single caregiver with a concealed carry permit could have shut this couple down before they hit 14 fatalities.
I plan on getting my CC in January, but I know as an RN, should my handgun be discovered, I'll probably lose my license. It will stay in my car when I am at work. If someone wants to carry out mayhem at my workplace, we are ALL sitting ducks. It is not ok or fair. What are your thoughts?
I do believe in the right to own guns and protect yourself. I'm running through the list of co-workers in my head though and I can't say I'd be comftorable with knowing any of them were carrying a gun.
What loophole are you talking about? The Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA) which you just quoted makes it illegal to sell a gun to or give a gun to:
1. Persons who are convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year, even if the person received a shorter sentence.
2. Persons who are fugitives from justice.
3. Persons who are unlawful users of and/or addicted to any controlled substance.
4. Persons who are adjudicated mental defective or involuntarily committed to a mental institution.
5. Persons who are aliens illegally/unlawfully in the United States and nonimmigrant aliens (with certain limited exceptions).
6. Persons who have been dishonorably discharged from the United States Armed Forces.
7. Persons who have renounced their United States citizenship.
8. Persons who are the subject of certain protection orders.
9. Persons who have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.
10. Persons who are under indictment (information) for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year. If you sell to one of these people YOU are LIABLE. Same goes for the gun shows except some states have made a NICS mandatory. Once again anyone with a FFL is REQUIRED to do an NICS.
So for those sellers at gun shows who don't have a ffl, how do they verify all the potential rule out criteria? Ask?
And you say the new numbers are similar. OK, so the friend/family purchase is still a high percentage way for criminals to get a weapon.
Just how much would this technology add to the price of a gun? Costing $1,798 for a package of one iP1 smart gun, and one RFID smartwatch (which must be worn to operate the gun), Armatix's smart gun costs more than four times the cost of a Glock new G43.
How will a smart gun's sensitive electronics hold up under the regimen of cleaning and oiling necessary to keep a handgun in good working order? Could cellphone signals interfere with a smart gun's RFID signal, rendering it inoperable? And what if you forget the PIN code (which must be entered into the smartwatch to unlock the gun)?
One certain problem with the iP1 system is the fact that both the handgun and the smartwatch that unlocks it need batteries to operate. Should either of those batteries die at an inopportune moment, the iP1 would be useless -- an $1,800 "paperweight," unable to fire.
BTW Armatix is now bankrupt.
Just like when I try to log Into the pxysis with my fingerprints and it takes five tries before it's accepted. Oh my god, try doing that while someone is breaking into your house...
So for those sellers at gun shows who don't have a ffl, how do they verify all the potential rule out criteria? Ask?
In Texas if you buy at gun show from private seller you just exchange cash for gun.
Last two used handguns I purchased one was from a garage sale (great deal) and one from a individual (good deal) selling on a forum, Just negotiate best price and take possession.
I remember police testing out "smart" guns a few decades ago. The theory was if a suspect was able to get the officer's gun it wouldn't fire for him. Unfortunately, the technology is not perfect and sometimes the guns wouldn't fire for the owner. Defensive firearms are like parachutes. They must work every time you need them.
Even today, legislation aimed at requiring smart guns exempts law enforcement. If it is so good, they should be at the front of the line.
BTW, review films of active shooting situations. You don't really see a lot of people milling around the shooter. Instead the shooter is usually upright alone and innocents are laying/crawling on the ground or crouching behind anything they can find. It's not hard to identify the correct target.
Unless you are unlucky enough to be the first victim there is time to identify the target, draw, aim, and engage. I'd rather have that option when out and about than just waiting my turn. Dr. Hupp's experience at a Luby's in Waco is worth a listen if you've not heard or read it.
The no background check is nothing but propaganda.
Mandated by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 and launched by the FBI on November 30, 1998, NICS is used by Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) to instantly determine whether a prospective buyer is eligible to buy firearms. Before ringing up the sale, cashiers call in a check to the FBI or to other designated agencies to ensure that each customer does not have a criminal record or isn't otherwise ineligible to make a purchase. More than 100 million such checks have been made in the last decade, leading to more than 700,000 denials.
Unless a nurse gets the same tactical training and experience as cops, in my opinion a nurse with a gun is just as bad even worse than a terrorist with a gun. All these conceal carry arguments will do no good. Who will be the "brave" nurse to take the first shot at a terrorist with an automatic weapon? You be dead before you get the first shot off. Being good at shooting range or shooting deer or an animal is not the same as standing up and shooting a person. Just look at the many errors cops make daily during shootings and they are pros. The best thing is to close down these gun shops and gets automatic weapons off the street. Pass gun law restrictions and register every gun to its user and for crying out loud pass background check laws. Its all common sence.
In Texas if you buy at gun show from private seller you just exchange cash for gun.
Last two used handguns I purchased one was from a garage sale (great deal) and one from a individual (good deal) selling on a forum, Just negotiate best price and take possession.
And this is a very easy way for someone who can't legally buy a gun to obtain one. Explain how it's not.
Where the heck are you gonna put the darn thing? As it is now half of what's in my pockets falls out while I'm working between bending, lifting etc.
I think there should be armed security guards/police officers and metal detectors, yes. Maybe a couple docs even but as a nurse(ing assistant) it wouldn't be practical. Besides, if I put it in my bra that's even more weight to carry. No thanks.
Yes and you may well make a mistake a shoot others in the melee - so pretty much a free for all - crazy this gun obsession with Americans. Seems anger management classes should be the first priority.
I want to gauge opinions based on our CURRENT situation after the shooting yesterday in San Bernadino, CA. 
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I do believe in the right to own guns and protect yourself. I'm running through the list of co-workers in my head though and I can't say I'd be comftorable with knowing any of them were carrying a gun.