Complaints against a school

Bonnie Blue · Apr 26, 2003

I would also file complaints with the state and national boards of nursing, Better Business Bureau and maybe even call a local TV station who solves consumer complaints! They have taken your money and not followed due process, seems like a consumer complaint to me. Plus, bad publicity for the school.

Good luck! I wonder if some of this isn't motivated by prejudice because he's male...

Bonnie Blue · Apr 26, 2003

I would also file complaints with the state and national boards of nursing, Better Business Bureau and maybe even call a local TV station who solves consumer complaints! They have taken your money and not followed due process, seems like a consumer complaint to me. Plus, bad publicity for the school.

Good luck! I wonder if some of this isn't motivated by prejudice because he's male...

BABNRS · Apr 28, 2003

We have definitely considered all of the above and depending on the next 2 days we may still do that!! Again, I thank all of you for your wonderful advice and support. It has been very helpful! I will keep you all posted {no pun intended :-) } on the status of things.

BABNRS · Apr 28, 2003

We have definitely considered all of the above and depending on the next 2 days we may still do that!! Again, I thank all of you for your wonderful advice and support. It has been very helpful! I will keep you all posted {no pun intended :-) } on the status of things.

colleen10 · Apr 28, 2003

Hi Bab,

I have been following all of this and think it is just horrible. I haven't started my clinicals yet so I have not witnessed or experienced this type of discrimination and behavior in my clinical setting but it never ceases to amaze me of the types of people out there and the lengths they will go to.

I have witnessed, for lack of a better word, just plain insane people who treat others the way your husband has been treated.

I wanted to know, and forgive me if you mentioned this in one of your previous posts, but did your husband ever find out what the complaint against him was in clinical? If you can't go into it, that's fine, I just wanted to know if they ever explained to him why all of this was started in the first place, if he was still in the dark or if the main reason for all of this was the OB Packet.

Good Luck and I truly hope that everything works out for the best and that your husband isn't too saddened by these events.

Col

colleen10 · Apr 28, 2003

Hi Bab,

I have been following all of this and think it is just horrible. I haven't started my clinicals yet so I have not witnessed or experienced this type of discrimination and behavior in my clinical setting but it never ceases to amaze me of the types of people out there and the lengths they will go to.

I have witnessed, for lack of a better word, just plain insane people who treat others the way your husband has been treated.

I wanted to know, and forgive me if you mentioned this in one of your previous posts, but did your husband ever find out what the complaint against him was in clinical? If you can't go into it, that's fine, I just wanted to know if they ever explained to him why all of this was started in the first place, if he was still in the dark or if the main reason for all of this was the OB Packet.

Good Luck and I truly hope that everything works out for the best and that your husband isn't too saddened by these events.

Col

BABNRS · Apr 28, 2003

Originally posted by colleen10
Hi Bab,

I wanted to know, and forgive me if you mentioned this in one of your previous posts, but did your husband ever find out what the complaint against him was in clinical? If you can't go into it, that's fine, I just wanted to know if they ever explained to him why all of this was started in the first place, if he was still in the dark or if the main reason for all of this was the OB Packet.

Col

Thanks Col,

They still won't tell him what the complaint is about. I think that the beginning of everything was the OB packet. He started to make a stink about the whole thing and request a full appeal on that issue, but decided to let it die. He was at fault for turning in his paper one day late, so he didn't feel he had the leverage that he needed. However, if you recall as I mentioned earlier, not only did he suck up and take the 10% penalty; he took the 20% penalty because they didn't like the fact that I turned it in on the next day. I really don't know what is motivating this "warlock hunt". I mean, he let the OB packet appeal go, things were very quiet until BOOM.....YOU CAN'T GO TO CLINICAL! And this on the very last day of clinical!!!! My gut feeling is that they trumped up this complaint from the hospital (they won't even tell him if the complaint was patient or staff generated) to try to get rid of him, thinking he would roll over and take it in the you-know-what. They thought wrong!!!:stone

BABNRS · Apr 28, 2003

Originally posted by colleen10
Hi Bab,

I wanted to know, and forgive me if you mentioned this in one of your previous posts, but did your husband ever find out what the complaint against him was in clinical? If you can't go into it, that's fine, I just wanted to know if they ever explained to him why all of this was started in the first place, if he was still in the dark or if the main reason for all of this was the OB Packet.

Col

Thanks Col,

They still won't tell him what the complaint is about. I think that the beginning of everything was the OB packet. He started to make a stink about the whole thing and request a full appeal on that issue, but decided to let it die. He was at fault for turning in his paper one day late, so he didn't feel he had the leverage that he needed. However, if you recall as I mentioned earlier, not only did he suck up and take the 10% penalty; he took the 20% penalty because they didn't like the fact that I turned it in on the next day. I really don't know what is motivating this "warlock hunt". I mean, he let the OB packet appeal go, things were very quiet until BOOM.....YOU CAN'T GO TO CLINICAL! And this on the very last day of clinical!!!! My gut feeling is that they trumped up this complaint from the hospital (they won't even tell him if the complaint was patient or staff generated) to try to get rid of him, thinking he would roll over and take it in the you-know-what. They thought wrong!!!:stone

BABNRS · Apr 28, 2003

You know, I have been re-reading everything and thought I would insert a couple of tidbits of additional information as background on the malicious nature of this program. As part of his appeal letter, he included the following incident:

 April 22, 2003, I attended my Art Appreciation night class at the Perkinston Campus. My instructor told me that an instructor from the nursing program called her at home. She said the instructor told her that she was concerned about me attending my class because I am hypertensive and inquired if I had been attending class. Mrs C told her that I had been going to class and that I was a good student. My medical condition is Personal Health Information and should be kept confidential according to HIPAA laws. Additionally, my attendance and grades in Art class have nothing to do with the nursing program.

So do you see what kind of people we are dealing with...they were looking for something! He confronted the Director of the ADN program and said "You know, it was the sweetest thing! One of the teachers called my art teacher and asked how I was doing. Was that you?" And she said it was!!! He politely said "Well thank you for caring, that was very unnecessary"

The closing statement in his appeal letter was "I do not wish to receive my education from nurses who teach accountability and responsibility to the students but are not held to the same standards." :cool:

BABNRS · Apr 28, 2003

You know, I have been re-reading everything and thought I would insert a couple of tidbits of additional information as background on the malicious nature of this program. As part of his appeal letter, he included the following incident:

 April 22, 2003, I attended my Art Appreciation night class at the Perkinston Campus. My instructor told me that an instructor from the nursing program called her at home. She said the instructor told her that she was concerned about me attending my class because I am hypertensive and inquired if I had been attending class. Mrs C told her that I had been going to class and that I was a good student. My medical condition is Personal Health Information and should be kept confidential according to HIPAA laws. Additionally, my attendance and grades in Art class have nothing to do with the nursing program.

So do you see what kind of people we are dealing with...they were looking for something! He confronted the Director of the ADN program and said "You know, it was the sweetest thing! One of the teachers called my art teacher and asked how I was doing. Was that you?" And she said it was!!! He politely said "Well thank you for caring, that was very unnecessary"

The closing statement in his appeal letter was "I do not wish to receive my education from nurses who teach accountability and responsibility to the students but are not held to the same standards." :cool:

redshiloh · Apr 28, 2003

BABNRS, Make SURE he is saving ANY and ALL documentation that may be relevant and have copies made of them just in case an official 'loses' them. Seems to me they are violating his civil rights here...doesn't he have the right to know what he is accused of?

redshiloh · Apr 28, 2003

BABNRS, Make SURE he is saving ANY and ALL documentation that may be relevant and have copies made of them just in case an official 'loses' them. Seems to me they are violating his civil rights here...doesn't he have the right to know what he is accused of?