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Please, oh please offer some advice! My hubby is in an ADN program and the teachers there are trying to fail him. His instructors called him in today to tell him that they got a complaint on him from someone at the hospital (from clinical) and that he will be unable to attend clinical tomorrow until it is cleared up. He has a 90 average in lecture but needs every point to pass clinical. There is a long story associated with why losing the points for tomorrows clinical will fail him, but, I don't have time to tell the whole story. But the bottom line is...the instructors won't tell him what the complaint was or who made it. Doesn't he have the right to know? We are getting an attorney!!!
During my nursing school days, I had an instructor that tried to fail me on the last day of school. I had passed all the tests and she was reviewing my very last thing I had, her clinical. ONe of the trouble making students told a lie on me and she was going to fail me on the very last thing so I could not graduate. She went and asked another instructor and she told her she could not do it. I had decided that if I did not graduate, then the trouble making student would not either. God intervened and I proudly graduated as I should have. I have come to the conclusion that nursing instructors all have mental disorders.
OK, he called. The counselor is helping him research his rights. So he has 5 days to make his appeal - that will be up on Wednesday of next week. He is going to sleep on the whole thing over the weekend and do some information gathering. What do you all think? Should he withdraw and move on or should he pursue the appeal? We need alll the advice that we can get!!!
OK, he called. The counselor is helping him research his rights. So he has 5 days to make his appeal - that will be up on Wednesday of next week. He is going to sleep on the whole thing over the weekend and do some information gathering. What do you all think? Should he withdraw and move on or should he pursue the appeal? We need alll the advice that we can get!!!
It seems in nursing school clinicals, you are not allowed to make any mistakes or ask too many questions.
Once I got failed in a clinical for giving coumadin, under the regular nurses supervision. When my instructor found out she went ballistic. I was never told we were not allowed to give that med. I was so mad I left nursing school and returned 2 years later, but I was nervous wreck at clinicals and lab check-offs.
It seems that some instructors get the idea in their head that you would not make a good nurse, and they see to it that you are put out! Failing someone in their second year is inexcusable--wasted time and money. If they were going to expel a person they should do it in the first sememster!
It seems in nursing school clinicals, you are not allowed to make any mistakes or ask too many questions.
Once I got failed in a clinical for giving coumadin, under the regular nurses supervision. When my instructor found out she went ballistic. I was never told we were not allowed to give that med. I was so mad I left nursing school and returned 2 years later, but I was nervous wreck at clinicals and lab check-offs.
It seems that some instructors get the idea in their head that you would not make a good nurse, and they see to it that you are put out! Failing someone in their second year is inexcusable--wasted time and money. If they were going to expel a person they should do it in the first sememster!
Originally posted by nurse-in-bootsAnyone remember "Mario" guy... ? Think that happened to him too. Ended up getting kicked out for an unvalid complaint.
There are always three sides to every story....and I don't believe someone is kicked out for NO reason. Mario's case was a patient safety issue, from what HE said.
Originally posted by nurse-in-bootsAnyone remember "Mario" guy... ? Think that happened to him too. Ended up getting kicked out for an unvalid complaint.
There are always three sides to every story....and I don't believe someone is kicked out for NO reason. Mario's case was a patient safety issue, from what HE said.
After reading this with much interest here are some of my comments:
1. I would run, not walk, to the nearest civil rights attorney and get a consultation. Most are free and if you have a case...retain them. Schools are petrified of the bad publicity that a case like this would cause.
2. With reference to the abuse that some nursing instructors see fit to distribute. I'm not sure where I read it, but nurses have one of the highest "abuse" rates. This includes abuse from spouses, Doctors, and others. Most just take it and rarely stand up for themselves for fear of reprisal.
We are mostly a very caring type person and don't want to upset the apple cart. I find myself doing that quite a bit (and I was in an abusive situation for almost 18 years). Little by little, I'm able to stand up for myself in a very diplomatic, LEGAL way but it's very hard sometimes especially when someone holds your future in their hands. That is a very powerful thing and when misused can be very destructive.
Someone mentioned that instructors try to weed people out who, in their opinion, would not make good nurses. How the heck do they know if they will make good nurses or not until they are actually a nurse? School is totally different than the real world in nursing!
Stand up for your rights! Don't let them treat you like a child who needs to be punished!
Ok, I'll step off my soap box now! Sorry!
After reading this with much interest here are some of my comments:
1. I would run, not walk, to the nearest civil rights attorney and get a consultation. Most are free and if you have a case...retain them. Schools are petrified of the bad publicity that a case like this would cause.
2. With reference to the abuse that some nursing instructors see fit to distribute. I'm not sure where I read it, but nurses have one of the highest "abuse" rates. This includes abuse from spouses, Doctors, and others. Most just take it and rarely stand up for themselves for fear of reprisal.
We are mostly a very caring type person and don't want to upset the apple cart. I find myself doing that quite a bit (and I was in an abusive situation for almost 18 years). Little by little, I'm able to stand up for myself in a very diplomatic, LEGAL way but it's very hard sometimes especially when someone holds your future in their hands. That is a very powerful thing and when misused can be very destructive.
Someone mentioned that instructors try to weed people out who, in their opinion, would not make good nurses. How the heck do they know if they will make good nurses or not until they are actually a nurse? School is totally different than the real world in nursing!
Stand up for your rights! Don't let them treat you like a child who needs to be punished!
Ok, I'll step off my soap box now! Sorry!
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During my nursing school days, I had an instructor that tried to fail me on the last day of school. I had passed all the tests and she was reviewing my very last thing I had, her clinical. ONe of the trouble making students told a lie on me and she was going to fail me on the very last thing so I could not graduate. She went and asked another instructor and she told her she could not do it. I had decided that if I did not graduate, then the trouble making student would not either. God intervened and I proudly graduated as I should have. I have come to the conclusion that nursing instructors all have mental disorders.