Labor & Healthcare-The Issue of Our Time - page 2

labor & healthcare-the issue of our time you probably know that the uaw has called a national strike against gm. this is the first auto strike since 1976, the first strike against gm since... Read More

  1. by   HM2VikingRN
    ya sure du betcha
  2. by   sharona97
    Quote from HM2Viking
    ya sure du betcha
    You're killin me! lol lol
  3. by   HM2VikingRN
    I grew up speaking western minnesota norwegian english dontcha know...
  4. by   sharona97
    Quote from HM2Viking
    I grew up speaking western minnesota norwegian english dontcha know...
    I wish I was more computer savvy. Whew, for a minute there I thought maybe FARGO!!!lol
  5. by   fronkey bean
    HM2Viking, Perhaps, if you would try to see the other side of an issue, you could see that conservatives aren't evil people trying to make other people suffer in order to keep up their standard of living (I base this on the quote at the bottom of your posts). I am as locally involved as I can be w/ two small children who I homeschool and a full time job. I wouldn't have time to launch a campaign if I did not like something the union was advocating for. Why can't they just stick to informing their members and advocating for their members instead of trying to shape the political scene to their advantage? That's all I want, someone who will use the money I pay in dues and not try to make me agree w/ any particular cause, liberal or conservative.
    Last edit by fronkey bean on Oct 12, '07
  6. by   pickledpepperRN
    Please tell me what I am missing.

    Lots of good people are philosophically opposed to organized unions.
    A great friend of mine, a Seventh Day Adventist does not pay dues for religious reasons (her money goes to charity instead). She chooses to work at our union hospital because our patient care is excellent and we like her so much.

    In the recent couple decades I've known MANY nurses who were anti union and are now some of our best leaders.

    SOME leaders of both parties and most of us make thoughtless comments.
    I think it is a crying shame that people suffer and die needlessly in this country. We have the resources to ensure we all have the minimums needed (Maslow) so it must be the system.
    Last edit by pickledpepperRN on Oct 10, '07
  7. by   herring_RN
    [font=futura][color=#231f20]cna/nnoc contracts have created new standards for rns and patient protection.
    [font=futura][color=#231f20]a crucial part of quality patient care is reversing the trend of inadequate hospital staffing that is putting patients at risk and driving
    [font=futura][color=#231f20]nurses out of the profession.
    [font=futura][color=#231f20]cna representation provides nurses with a voice in patient care decisions, which we can use to create safer healthcare facilities to protect our patients, our licenses, and ourselves.

  8. by   Chico David RN
    Just circling back around to where this thread started - which was on the loss of employer paid health benefits for working people.
    When I talk with nurses about this, especially in the states where strong unions have given nurses a pretty good sense of health security, they sometimes say something like this: "I worked hard to get myself to a profession with good health benefits, those other people who don't have it should do the same."
    One of the realities of the hard world of a business based healthcare system is that those who stick up get pounded down. As more and more American workers lose their health benefits, or get pushed into high-deductible plans they can't afford to use, it focuses attention on the shrinking group who still have decent benefits. And it's not the kind of attention we want. As fewer and fewer have health benefits themselves, they feel a lot less sense of support for those who do - especially when our wages and benefits contribute to the cost of theirs.
    In the long run - and not even that long - the only way nurses will maintain our own health security is by helping to make sure others have it too.
  9. by   JanFromWI
    I think that's it's essential that nursing unions stay active politically.
    Whay should doctors, firemen, policemen and teachers have a political voice, but not nurses.

    Our profession looks at the patient as a whole. Our patients lives don't end when they leave the hospital. There is a broader community and political reality that exists out there. The issues of whether they have healthy food, safe housing, adequate education, whether or not they have insurance or not, whether or not they can refill their prescriptions, etc all impact health.

    The other key is that our practice and profession are under attack! You better believe that th health care industry (pharma, hospital associations, insurance cos) are politically active. We can't afford to let them deskill and dumb-down our practice--move the focus from patient care to "customer satisfactio" and the perception of care rather than quality, without fighting back!
  10. by   alma.ata1978
    It is a great time for Labor Unions to be involved in the holiday dialogues to change health care policies!
  11. by   herring_RN
    Quote from alma.ata1978
    It is a great time for Labor Unions to be involved in the holiday dialogues to change health care policies!
    Sign up to host a health care community discussion over the holidays