Co-worker stole my ID

TazziRN, RN · Jul 12, 2007

The OP does not care who is in recovery so I am trying to keep bringing this posting back to a drug addict diverting nothing more. Please if you are an alcoholic stay off the post it is not about you make your own post. As for nurses thinking they are a step above the other addicts. I mean drug addicts (not alcoholics) Except if you come to work drunk.

A) You do not have the right to tell any of us where we can post.

B) We addicts and alcoholics were presenting another view, the view of the addict and alcoholic.

C) You differentiate between addicts and alcoholics (your last comment). So it's okay for addicts to post here but not alcoholics? There is NO difference between the two. An addict is considered an alcoholic and an alcoholic is considered an addict.

Cattitude · Jul 12, 2007

the op does not care who is in recovery so i am trying to keep bringing this posting back to a drug addict diverting nothing more. please if you are an alcoholic stay off the post it is not about you make your own post. as for nurses thinking they are a step above the other addicts. i mean drug addicts (not alcoholics) except if you come to work drunk. any nurse who uses another persons name to divert drugs is a criminal nothing more there is no excuse and no she should not be forgiven. she or he can go to a corner and get their drugs the old fashioned way and take their chances not use thier liscence or someone elses licence like this poster did. a nurse who gets caught for diverting drugs who feels she should not be punished because "drug addiction is a disease" is definitely putting herself above the others. all i am saying is drug diversion is a crime and in my opinion the nurse should lose her licence not temporarily but permanently. no this is not a call for help otherwise she/he would divert the drugs in their own name.
if you are a drug or alcohol addict and did not divert drugs or use another medical person to get your drugs yes you need help and your licence should be up for review with the bon only if you came to work drunk or stoned otherwise it is noones business and you can go to rehab on sick leave and it is noones business . i have nothing but respect for nurses in recovery and yes i know a few.
i promise you if someone used my name to divert drugs if i found out who, i would have them arrested and press civil charges. why becasue i have been the victim and i almost lost my licence because i almost could not prove i did not take the drugs myself. (i have a pretty good idea since the suspect nurse was found calling in a narcotic prescription to the pharmacy and shot up in the staff bathroom and left all her paraphenilia in the bathroom). so no i have little compassion for a nurse who diverts drugs even if she was my best freind. when you become the victim rather then the addict come back on the post and talk about it. :nono:

i couldn't finish posting this a.m., had to go to work so i will do so now.

how do you know what the op cares about? maybe some things in this thread have answered questions for the op and others. i certainly hope so.

maybe a nurse that uses another name has committed a crime, that is true. but a criminal is still a human being. it is not up to me or you to say if they should be forgiven but to the person they hurt. as far as getting drugs "the old fashioned way". you know what? i was desperate and probably would have eventually ended up doing that. i would never wish that upon someone. how sad to see this...

okay as far as being punished and being "above others". who here said that a nurse should never ever be punished? i am punished for the rest of my life. i have a criminal conviction. many others do as well. those that don't may have permanent bon records. and yes even a rare few do lose their licenses.

so we are in fact punished. who said we aren't? just because it's not as harsh as some would like it to be does not negate the fact that it does happen.

i don't think you can press "civil charges" for a crime. it's obvious that this is a very emotional topic for you but the facts remain that it is still the da's responsibility to press charges. no vigilantism allowed.

jessicrn i hope you find some peace, you seem very angry and that is not healthy. i should know. anger and depression contributed to my using in the first place. this disease can happen to any one of us even if any one reading this doesn't believe it. it can...

recovery is good....

reesern63, RN · Jul 13, 2007

i couldn't finish posting this a.m., had to go to work so i will do so now.
how do you know what the op cares about? maybe some things in this thread have answered questions for the op and others. i certainly hope so.
maybe a nurse that uses another name has committed a crime, that is true. but a criminal is still a human being. it is not up to me or you to say if they should be forgiven but to the person they hurt. as far as getting drugs "the old fashioned way". you know what? i was desperate and probably would have eventually ended up doing that. i would never wish that upon someone. how sad to see this...
okay as far as being punished and being "above others". who here said that a nurse should never ever be punished? i am punished for the rest of my life. i have a criminal conviction. many others do as well. those that don't may have permanent bon records. and yes even a rare few do lose their licenses.
so we are in fact punished. who said we aren't? just because it's not as harsh as some would like it to be does not negate the fact that it does happen.
i don't think you can press "civil charges" for a crime. it's obvious that this is a very emotional topic for you but the facts remain that it is still the da's responsibility to press charges. no vigilantism allowed.
jessicrn i hope you find some peace, you seem very angry and that is not healthy. i should know. anger and depression contributed to my using in the first place. this disease can happen to any one of us even if any one reading this doesn't believe it. it can...
recovery is good....

we could always bring back "the rack." maybe that would satisfy some people.

really, there are other things i would rather not have to deal with (i won't be specific here) than a recovering nurse. a recovering nurse is working hard to stay on the straight and narrow. it's not up to me to presume to judge beyond the bon's decision and the decision of a hospital to hire a recovering nurse. if i can be a friendly face to someone who is making an honest attempt to come back, that's what i call giving back to the profession.

call me weird, but that's how i see it.

Cattitude · Jul 13, 2007

We could always bring back "the rack." Maybe that would satisfy some people.
Really, there are other things I would rather not have to deal with (I won't be specific here) than a recovering nurse. A recovering nurse is working hard to stay on the straight and narrow. It's not up to me to presume to judge beyond the BON's decision and the decision of a hospital to hire a recovering nurse. If I can be a friendly face to someone who is making an honest attempt to come back, that's what I call giving back to the profession.
Call me weird, but that's how I see it.

Well I'm weird right along with you then...

Another thing, I know we've all done a lot of talking about recovering nurses. I want to again reiterate that actively using nurses ARE sick. Committing crimes for drugs IS SICK BEHAVIOR.

The stuff I did while using I would never, ever do clean. A using nurse should be given treatment to get well and will also have to pay for any criminal activity. That IS punishment. Treatment is NOT a walk in the park.. It is HARd work..

Recovery is a lifetime process. Those that find it work hard on themselves forever. I know so many people in recovery with healthy outlooks, behaviors, and attitudes BECAUSE of the processs. I also know a bunch of unhealthy non using nurses and people. I'm actually healthier now, in recovery than I was before I ever started using. Because back then I was sick and didn't know it.

People in glass houses....

nursewendii · Jul 13, 2007

This post is directed to Jessica who wrote, I quote "I have nothing but respect for nurses in recovery and yes I know a few."

If you let the nurses in recovery you know read your posts, I bet they wouldn't have respect for you. :nono:

Noone ever said nurses who get caught diverting, come to work high, or get arrested for drug use are above other addicts. And noone said they shouldn't or don't get criminal charges pressed against them. I now have a criminal record for what I did. I was treated just like any other "drug addict" when I went in front of the judge. I didn't proclaim to the court "Oh, by the way I am an RN so take it easy on me!!"

I also think you have some very strong feelings about "drug addict nurses". Seeing that you have been a nurse for sometime and work in the ER I hope you have some comprehension of addiction and realize it is a disease and I hope you don't treat your patients who are in active addiction with the attitude of anger you have portrayed in your posts.

I did not ask to become an addict/alcoholic(yes I am both) but today I can accept it and be happy, joyous and free

TazziRN, RN · Jul 13, 2007

This post is directed to Jessica who wrote, I quote "I have nothing but respect for nurses in recovery and yes I know a few."
If you let the nurses in recovery you know read your posts, I bet they wouldn't have respect for you.
Noone ever said nurses who get caught diverting, come to work high, or get arrested for drug use are above other addicts. And noone said they shouldn't or don't get criminal charges pressed against them. I now have a criminal record for what I did. I was treated just like any other "drug addict" when I went in front of the judge. I didn't proclaim to the court "Oh, by the way I am an RN so take it easy on me!!"
I also think you have some very strong feelings about "drug addict nurses". Seeing that you have been a nurse for sometime and work in the ER I hope you have some comprehension of addiction and realize it is a disease and I hope you don't treat your patients who are in active addiction with the attitude of anger you have portrayed in your posts.
I did not ask to become an addict/alcoholic(yes I am both) but today I can accept it and be happy, joyous and free

I do not have a criminal record, but I do have one with the BON so it's very similar to a criminal record.

Why is it that every person we've heard say that we should be thrown to the lions always adds "I know people in recovery and I respect them"? What makes us different from the people that they know?

teeituptom, BSN, RN · Jul 13, 2007

Well I'm weird right along with you then...
Another thing, I know we've all done a lot of talking about recovering nurses. I want to again reiterate that actively using nurses ARE sick. Committing crimes for drugs IS SICK BEHAVIOR.
The stuff I did while using I would never, ever do clean. A using nurse should be given treatment to get well and will also have to pay for any criminal activity. That IS punishment. Treatment is NOT a walk in the park.. It is HARd work..
Recovery is a lifetime process. Those that find it work hard on themselves forever. I know so many people in recovery with healthy outlooks, behaviors, and attitudes BECAUSE of the processs. I also know a bunch of unhealthy non using nurses and people. I'm actually healthier now, in recovery than I was before I ever started using. Because back then I was sick and didn't know it.
People in glass houses....

So what you are saying is that "Sickness" excuses all criminal behaviour.

Sorry I cant agree with that.

Cattitude · Jul 13, 2007

So what you are saying is that "Sickness" excuses all criminal behaviour.
Sorry I cant agree with that.

I'm trying to find where exactly in my post you see this? You didn't! :trout:

I never said that . I DID say that people will also have to pay for any criminal acticity. How is that excusing anything????

FTR, I got very lucky. No probation, no fines, no jail time. The D.A. just wanted me to have that conviction and now I certainly do.

Many others DO get punishments of the above. AND treatment. You CAN have both!!! They are not mutually exclusive. Though I know some would like to just throw us all in jail and to heck with treatment.. :nono:

Judging by the rate of recidivism in the crim. justice sytem, I can see the jail thing doesn't work out so well. Treatment works much better.

angel's RN · Jul 15, 2007

I do not have a criminal record, but I do have one with the BON so it's very similar to a criminal record.
Why is it that every person we've heard say that we should be thrown to the lions always adds "I know people in recovery and I respect them"? What makes us different from the people that they know?

I bet I ALSO know alot of nurses that are in recovery and I DON'T know they are. I agree will you, Tazzi, we are no different that any Tom, Dick and Harry on the street, but we, at least I am, just living "one day at a time" instead of carefree. I have a much better outlook on life now that I am recovering :lol2: (just a compulsive gambler, but still recovering--I have an addition just like you). Some people don't see it that way, but believe me, I went thru h---(sorry!!). Long story.

Angel's RN (can't get my angel up!)

sissiesmama, ASN, RN · Jul 17, 2007

Hey Guy's--
I know it's been since 6/11 when I posted my long story, but I have to do this. Guess who is NOW working at the facility that I am at??? YUP!! The very night super. that accused me of sleeping! An't that a b----? :chair: (Opps--Sorry!) Oh well, such is life!
's RN

Hey, angel's RN! Scary thought! I don't know if I could stomach it, but bills have to be paid. As my hubbie says, keep your friends close and your enemies (or to be more politically correct, your adversaries) closer! Good luck and watch your back!!! Been there!

Anne

sissiesmama, ASN, RN · Jul 17, 2007

Don't take anything too personally, many people have been hurt by addiction in some form and are lashing out. It's NOT about you. Thankfully, "the powers that be" don't feel we should lose our licenses forever right? Keep on doing what you're doing for you. Recovery first!
Well said. I think the point has been made over and over and over again that we should "lose our licenses forever". Got it!
And guess what? It's still is not going to happen!
I still think that nursing would be better served if we came together on this issue and found ways to HELP or REDUCE addiction instead of just blaring out about punishments.

Exactly, Cat!! All the name calling and horse beating is not doing a thing to help the problem that nurses that are addicted are faced with, and it's not going to help in the prevention of nurses getting addicted in the future or student nurses thinking "this can't happen to me", like I did.

God bless you and Tazzi for sticking up for "us"!!!

Anne, RNC:balloons:

sissiesmama, ASN, RN · Jul 17, 2007

Tom - I have been catching up on the posts on this thread and see that no one has been able to budge your ideas on this subject at all. I will pray for you tonight that you never "catch" what us addicts have. I will also pray that any addicts that come through your facility truly ill and in need of medications are assigned to another nurse.

Anne, RNC