Clovis Community College this fall

Hi, I am enrolled in Clovis's Microbio and Chem online for this fall. I wanted to know more too. (I live in southern california) and not sure what is expected, ie: Lab pac, books etc. How are the instructors here? Yep, this was one of the few that would let me take micro bio with and chem together rather than a prereq. Please let me know what info you can fill me in with.

Hi, I am enrolled in Clovis's Microbio and Chem online for this fall. I wanted to know more too. (I live in southern california) and not sure what is expected, ie: Lab pac, books etc. How are the instructors here? Yep, this was one of the few that would let me take micro bio with and chem together rather than a prereq. Please let me know what info you can fill me in with.

Okay..it does look like you dropped WCU - can you please fill me in? If you are not comfortable posting please send me a private message? I am really curious. You helped me a ton in the process of enrolling.

Okay..it does look like you dropped WCU - can you please fill me in? If you are not comfortable posting please send me a private message? I am really curious. You helped me a ton in the process of enrolling.

I dont mind posting (excuse my spelling errors as i am going to type in a bit of a ramble) . Its not that WCU is a bad school but there were a few things that threw me for a loop once enrolled and while I attended WCU. Things that were "selling" points for the school turned out to not be true.

1) They told me I could take more than 2 classes if I could get all As in my first term, but when I did and 2nd term came around, they scheduled 2nd term classes at the same exact time as 3rd term classes so I was not able to get additional classes. I wanted to take at a minimum 3 to 4 classes per term, since I do not work and am able to handle the course work.

2) They charge by semester, not term, and not by unit as the admissions rep said in during the sales pitch. I had planned on testing out of a few of the courses and I passed the math and almost passed the speech. But when I found this out, this wouldnt save me any money or time really since they really dont let you get ahead in the course work (you sit out for the term) , they try to keep you on the schedule (since they charge by semester, and make more money that way) By the way they let you test out, but for a $100 fee (that you pay out of your pocket, not out of the remaining financial aid for books etc)

3) That leads me to the 3rd reason and biggest. Financial aid was a mess. I was told that during the sales pitch that If the money from the book and materials voucher was not used up, it would either be returned to the loan (so it doesnt incur interest, or it could be given to us (to pay for books we bought from another source or so we can live off of it.) After the first term, I went to the financial aid and asked regarding the remaining $1100 that I did not use, they said it would be returned to my account. SO then the second term rolls around and the same thing happens, I have a remaining balance of voucher by $1300 or so. I received my loan statement from my lender and the full amount is outstanding. I thought "What the crap!", where's my money then?; i am getting charged interest? So I go back to financial aid and got an account statment printed out. THere was a credit balance of over $2000 sitting there. I was stunned and ******. I went to my classmates and had them all go and find out if they too had the same thing happen to them. And sure enough, they too all had credit balances of at least $2000 up to $3000. I used to work in the financial field and all of our accounts earned "overnight interest" The students are gettign charged interested on loan funds outstanding. but WCU is likely earning a pretty penny on overnight interest on all of our accounts. I was so ****** and I know for sure that another classmate (who has a masters in another field) and I (i hold a bachelors in finance) both left the program. Needless to say, WCU is still holding on to my remaining funds and it has been over 1 month since i dropped from the program.

4)Another big thing was that the whole thought of paying $1,600 per month for 10 years was giving me stressful heartburn/ chest pain palpy feelings. I have 2 young toddlers and didnt want to spend my OT hours on my own schooling. Also the reason behind workign as an RN is to be able to spend more time with my sons.

5) the instructors were "nice" but it seemed as they catered to people who tended to complain about how hard the tests were. So interestingly, the sucessive tests after the first 2-3 were exteemely easy. With that being said, there was still alot of cheating going on, so much so, that some of the class priviledges were taken away. Seriously, we are future nurses, why are people going to such extremes to cheat on a 25 pt exam when there are 1000 points in the overall class. So in the end, it appears those who were cheating were not punished but instead the whole class was punished. What are those few students going to do on the floor and on patients charts. I guess there are bad apples everywhere.

As a side note, there were so many students that tried super hard and were very studious and very very trustworthy. I am sad to say that I could not finish my program there. Many of my classmates are still there

6) They changed academic deans at the Ontario campus and didnt even notify the students, I just came in to the office and had to do a double take. I had to ask Where's Ruth? They replaced her with the old Psych, sociology teacher on campus.

7) The CCNE accreditation came to campus at the end of April, an initial report should have been released to school by now but no word on the decision if WCU received accreditation. Since nothing has been released. I feel pretty skeptical that they received initial accreditation. This made me super scared too. I had been betting that they would but by June 22 they did not even release any info after their meeting with CCNE. Usually CCNE will release a report with findings and recomendations for the school. But the WCU had been pretty hush hush about it.

8) we shared the campus with American career college so the computer room was always crowded and seemed like we were impeeding on their space. Also the Library resource center began to run more and more entrance exams so the resource center was closed often times to students. We often resorted to finding unused classrooms to study but often times we need the computers to complete our work. So If you look at the posted hours, they arent actually accurate.

So now I am taking pre reqs from chaffey college and anywhere else so I can finish my few science courses to apply to a more traditional school. I will miss the 10 week terms and my friends that I made at WCU but I still keep in contact with them.

I hope this helps you to understand my reasoning for withdrawing from WCU.

I am running out the door - but WOW... I will respond more later. That all makes me very concerned.

that is a ton of information. Wow.

So what have you decided to do? I am stunned.

Did you both have these courses approved by the nursing program you're planning to enter before enrolling? I'm trying to get a "straight answer" from counselors at Mt San Jacinto and I can't get one. How are the courses going? I'm plan to enroll for Spring.

Thanks!

Did you both have these courses approved by the nursing program you're planning to enter before enrolling? I'm trying to get a "straight answer" from counselors at Mt San Jacinto and I can't get one. How are the courses going? I'm plan to enroll for Spring.

Thanks!

I havent started yet. I got the ok from Oklahoma University- Glendale. Not sure about western Medical in Pomona. still need to get it approved. I will post again. I'm sure they are fine as they are regionally accredited.

Lan

I dont mind posting (excuse my spelling errors as i am going to type in a bit of a ramble) . Its not that WCU is a bad school but there were a few things that threw me for a loop once enrolled and while I attended WCU. Things that were "selling" points for the school turned out to not be true.

1) They told me I could take more than 2 classes if I could get all As in my first term, but when I did and 2nd term came around, they scheduled 2nd term classes at the same exact time as 3rd term classes so I was not able to get additional classes. I wanted to take at a minimum 3 to 4 classes per term, since I do not work and am able to handle the course work.

2) They charge by semester, not term, and not by unit as the admissions rep said in during the sales pitch. I had planned on testing out of a few of the courses and I passed the math and almost passed the speech. But when I found this out, this wouldnt save me any money or time really since they really dont let you get ahead in the course work (you sit out for the term) , they try to keep you on the schedule (since they charge by semester, and make more money that way) By the way they let you test out, but for a $100 fee (that you pay out of your pocket, not out of the remaining financial aid for books etc)

3) That leads me to the 3rd reason and biggest. Financial aid was a mess. I was told that during the sales pitch that If the money from the book and materials voucher was not used up, it would either be returned to the loan (so it doesnt incur interest, or it could be given to us (to pay for books we bought from another source or so we can live off of it.) After the first term, I went to the financial aid and asked regarding the remaining $1100 that I did not use, they said it would be returned to my account. SO then the second term rolls around and the same thing happens, I have a remaining balance of voucher by $1300 or so. I received my loan statement from my lender and the full amount is outstanding. I thought "What the crap!", where's my money then?; i am getting charged interest? So I go back to financial aid and got an account statment printed out. THere was a credit balance of over $2000 sitting there. I was stunned and ******. I went to my classmates and had them all go and find out if they too had the same thing happen to them. And sure enough, they too all had credit balances of at least $2000 up to $3000. I used to work in the financial field and all of our accounts earned "overnight interest" The students are gettign charged interested on loan funds outstanding. but WCU is likely earning a pretty penny on overnight interest on all of our accounts. I was so ****** and I know for sure that another classmate (who has a masters in another field) and I (i hold a bachelors in finance) both left the program. Needless to say, WCU is still holding on to my remaining funds and it has been over 1 month since i dropped from the program.

4)Another big thing was that the whole thought of paying $1,600 per month for 10 years was giving me stressful heartburn/ chest pain palpy feelings. I have 2 young toddlers and didnt want to spend my OT hours on my own schooling. Also the reason behind workign as an RN is to be able to spend more time with my sons.

5) the instructors were "nice" but it seemed as they catered to people who tended to complain about how hard the tests were. So interestingly, the sucessive tests after the first 2-3 were exteemely easy. With that being said, there was still alot of cheating going on, so much so, that some of the class priviledges were taken away. Seriously, we are future nurses, why are people going to such extremes to cheat on a 25 pt exam when there are 1000 points in the overall class. So in the end, it appears those who were cheating were not punished but instead the whole class was punished. What are those few students going to do on the floor and on patients charts. I guess there are bad apples everywhere.

As a side note, there were so many students that tried super hard and were very studious and very very trustworthy. I am sad to say that I could not finish my program there. Many of my classmates are still there

6) They changed academic deans at the Ontario campus and didnt even notify the students, I just came in to the office and had to do a double take. I had to ask Where's Ruth? They replaced her with the old Psych, sociology teacher on campus.

7) The CCNE accreditation came to campus at the end of April, an initial report should have been released to school by now but no word on the decision if WCU received accreditation. Since nothing has been released. I feel pretty skeptical that they received initial accreditation. This made me super scared too. I had been betting that they would but by June 22 they did not even release any info after their meeting with CCNE. Usually CCNE will release a report with findings and recomendations for the school. But the WCU had been pretty hush hush about it.

8) we shared the campus with American career college so the computer room was always crowded and seemed like we were impeeding on their space. Also the Library resource center began to run more and more entrance exams so the resource center was closed often times to students. We often resorted to finding unused classrooms to study but often times we need the computers to complete our work. So If you look at the posted hours, they arent actually accurate.

So now I am taking pre reqs from chaffey college and anywhere else so I can finish my few science courses to apply to a more traditional school. I will miss the 10 week terms and my friends that I made at WCU but I still keep in contact with them.

I hope this helps you to understand my reasoning for withdrawing from WCU.

I thank you for your input, I was inquiring at WCU and met with an admissions rep. It was a lot of information to take in and the program sounded great, facilities were outstanding, however I later realized that they are not accredited with CCNE or NLNAC.

Do employers look for this accreditation?

Me!

A&P1. I enrolled after they opened up more spots.

I am hoping I won't absolutely need the text this first week, as I enrolled Thurs night and faxed my book order in on Fri morning. They already had charged my CC for the books by yesterday afternoon, so I am hoping perhaps the books went out on the truck yesterday. I am only 4 hrs from Clovis so hopefully it won't be too long.

Also, for those of you who got their books already, what is in the A&P bundle? I googled the ISBN and nothing came up so I assume its a custom bundle for the school. I did not want to chance it so I ordered it from the school.

I thank you for your input, I was inquiring at WCU and met with an admissions rep. It was a lot of information to take in and the program sounded great, facilities were outstanding, however I later realized that they are not accredited with CCNE or NLNAC.

Do employers look for this accreditation?

Facitlities are very nice, but you share the computer room with the american career people.

I dont think that employers look for it but if you want to advance your degree to a masters or beyond- you wouldnt be able to at most regionally accred schools on exception of CSUF and a couple others. So basically, you are limiting yourself to just those few campuses. I heard some of the nurses that are newly graduated have not been hired but its a bad economy and it costs alot to train a new grad from any school.

I hope this helps.

Just wondering how your courses went. I didn't see microbiology online this semester though. Wonder if they cut it?