Chemistry requierment

[cosmo24]

Hello, This is my first post. I need to take Chemistry. It is the only class I need to get into the LPN Bridge program at STLCC. I have applied to Lutheran but was denied because of a poor transcript from when I was 18. I have since retaken all those classes and made A's and B's, have completed LPN with A's and B's. I can not seem to get through Chem. I have tried twice. My question- is there any way to get into a RN program without Chem? I am going to try it again this fall any help on how to get through would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Cosmo

[Little Doe]

Well, I don't know if you are interested in an ADN program or a BSN, but if you are willing to wait in line at St. Charles CC, only Intro to Chem is required. You would get an ADN and St. Charles' program is supposed to be awesome.

My other suggestion to you would be to approach Chem the way I did, because I found it to be difficult as well. I attended Chem for an entire semester without receiving a grade. Just got the books, went to lecture, took the tests, without being enrolled. Many colleges let you do this - you just don't get credit for the class. Then I went back and retook it from the very same professor, but this time enrolled for a grade. The professors rarely change they syllabus for a class, and I was already familiar with the material and knew what was likely to be asked on tests. I got A's from then on in all my chemistry classes!

[cosmo24]

Thanks for your response. I try what you said about Chem. I may have to take it this fall for a grade but if I don't I will do what you said. As for St. Charles CC, I live way to far to be able to go there. I live in south city. Thanks Again, Cosmo 24.

[CAguyinMO]

YES -- you can get into nursing school without taking chemistry. Barnes-Jewish College here in St. Louis doesn't have a chemistry pre-req requirement for students entering their accelerated BSN program (which I'll start next January). Most other nursing schools do require at least an introductory chem class before entry.

[Little Doe]

Really??? I am entering the Barnes-Jewish Upper Division program next fall (2 yr program) and it is required. I forgot that a lot of accellerated programs don't require as many courses, but i am surprised that a science would be one of the ones they would drop fromt he pre-req list. I wish I was able to do the 1-yr program...

[chordringer]

I would seriously reevaluate your career path if you aren't good with chemistry. The fact is, you'll be exposed to chemistry a great deal as a nurse. Yeah, you may not be using litmus paper or anything like that, but you will certainly be performing dosage calculations and so forth. Having a foundation of chemical problem solving will be very helpful.

Just my ,

Chord

[listener]

hi cosmo,

i took chm 101 at forest park last fall and start their ns in jan '09. i think you have to figure out what it takes to pass chem, not avoid it! i thought my prof., bryan landis, was excellent. he would do anything to help his students. and i don't mean to let them off easy, but to work with them, get tutors, plan study schedules, etc. i think your figuring this out will be great preparation in and of itself for ns - think of it as a good thing! :chuckle (seriously!!) if you're going to take it this fall, now is the time to contact your prof. face to face, talk to your prof and explain where you're coming from and develop a plan to succeed. get the text now, read some of it now, in conjunction with a plan you work out with your prof. if this fall's prof won't do this with you now, switch to another section! honestly, if you have attempted and failed this course twice already, you really need to figure out why you haven't succeeded and then deal with the cause. your problem isn't that you haven't passed chemistry, it's the issue of why you haven't passed chemistry! good luck, you can do this!!

[cosmo24]

Listener, Thank You. Your words of encouragement are great. I plan on registering next week. I will do as you said and hope I can get a class with Bryan Landis. I will get my book ASAP. I will also try and get a sylibus. Thanks again. Cosmo:paw:

[listener]

that's great! btw, (forgive me for being so preachy) when it comes to contacting your prof this summer and getting the text early, don't take "no" for an answer!! you can find those teachers. if talking to the chem dept. doesn't work, just look up the summer schedule online and find out the prof's class schedule and if you have to, show up! they'll appreciate your interest and tt you then or give you their summer office hours. same thing for the text. the bookstore may say "no", but there's always amazon and ebay. the prof should know what text they're gonna use... ok, you can do this!!

[chordringer]

I would definately agree with Listener on this. Persistance is the key. The fulltime professor would be the route to take. A lot of adjunct faculty may not be so interested. Of course, I've seen it the other way around, too. Either way, all the best in conquering the chemistry demons. It took me a while to get it, too, so I know your pain.

Chord

that's great! btw, (forgive me for being so preachy) when it comes to contacting your prof this summer and getting the text early, don't take "no" for an answer!! you can find those teachers. if talking to the chem dept. doesn't work, just look up the summer schedule online and find out the prof's class schedule and if you have to, show up! they'll appreciate your interest and tt you then or give you their summer office hours. same thing for the text. the bookstore may say "no", but there's always amazon and ebay. the prof should know what text they're gonna use... ok, you can do this!!

[whatshername]

CAguyinMO and LittleDoe,

It is odd, isn't it, that BJC accelerated doesn't require Chem? (I'll see you in Jan, CAguy.)

The upper division at BJC DOES require chem. And from what I understand it also requires Econ of all things!

To the original poster, I think if you don't directly take a chemistry class, you are still going to be bombarded with chemistry concepts. Everything from A&P to Nutrition, to Micro... there is a lot of chemistry in these courses. A basic understanding is a great thing to have mastered. Good luck to you.

[Little Doe]

I completed the Chem with my first degree, but I agree that it does seem strange that it wouldn't be required for the accelerated at BJC. One would think it would be esential to being able to learn everything twice as fast.