celebrity deliveries

BKRN · May 4, 2006

I have to respond to texas-rn-fnp about the military care. In 1980, I delivered my first son overseas at a military hospital. My husband at the time was a SSGT (E-5). Because he was ONLY an E-5, I had to make my own bed, change my own linen, etc! Didn't matter my physical condition (which was totally fine btw). However, in 1985 when I delivered my second son and my husband was an E-7 and first sergeant, I didn't have to do any of that - someone changed my bed linens.
I don't endorse treating folks differently based on rank, celebrity status or VIP status. You should provide the best possible care to everyone and it should be based on the care they need...
Just my $0.02 and yes you can tell I'm still bitter about the care (or lack thereof) I received some 26 years ago.

I delivered in a military hospital in 2001 and again in 2003 The first time I was an E-5 and the second time I was the dependant of my E-7 husband. Both times I was treated great as a patient-its funny how times have changed!

J'sGirl82 · May 8, 2006

I am in the military. Yes, people expect to be treated special when they come in for delivery based on their rank or the rank of their husband. The low ranking patients sometimes try to abuse the situation too because this is the one time they have the officers running around taking care of them.
My philosophy is that everyone should be treated equally great.

Interesting you should say this. I delivered my baby as an E-4 while my husband was an E-5 and the treatment at the hospital was....well, the reason why I won't EVER be having any children again. IGNORANT, IGNORANT, IGNORANT. I had an "officer" telling me I didn't have the authority to decide who wasn't in the room when I delivered ( they had brought in a Cadet), DH was told that he needed to "keep his military bearing" the CNM tore me during the delivery, to which he said "what the hell is that ?".

The whole thing was awful. I cannot stand MOST officers I have met. My father is a DO, my mom and FNP, and both have told me that in a civillian hospital I would have grounds for a mal-prac suit. Nor have I ever met a soldier who intentionally mistreats Officers, especially while they are in labor, of course, you'd have to understand that they are in pain, usually scared ( after all, most of US don't bring in over a grand in BAH). Perhaps if you could see past that shiny s*** on your beret, you might realize that Rank doesn't make the person, it makes your paycheck. Shame on you- you are a nurse-you shouldn't have gone into the nursing profession if you didn't like "waiting" on people. Idiots like this are why I left the Army.

texas-rn-fnp · May 8, 2006

first...my last line says it all...

i think everyone should be treated equally great

i have not had a problem with people because of my positive philosophy but i have witnessed that there are rank issues in healthcare (which is wrong).

it appears that j'sgirl82 may have had a bad experience and is stereotyping everyone. i am sorry you didn't receive that great care you deserved. remember...just because you had a bad experience doesn't mean every officer is bad. like any group of people, you have some really great people, you have some poor people, and then most people are somewhere in the middle.

J'sGirl82 · May 8, 2006

first...my last line says it all...
i think everyone should be treated equally great
i have not had a problem with people because of my positive philosophy but i have witnessed that there are rank issues in healthcare (which is wrong).
it appears that j'sgirl82 may have had a bad experience and is stereotyping everyone. i am sorry you didn't receive that great care you deserved. remember...just because you had a bad experience doesn't mean every officer is bad. like any group of people, you have some really great people, you have some poor people, and then most people are somewhere in the middle.

likewise. :madface:

BKRN · May 8, 2006

Interesting you should say this. I delivered my baby as an E-4 while my husband was an E-5 and the treatment at the hospital was....well, the reason why I won't EVER be having any children again. IGNORANT, IGNORANT, IGNORANT. I had an "officer" telling me I didn't have the authority to decide who wasn't in the room when I delivered ( they had brought in a Cadet), DH was told that he needed to "keep his military bearing" the CNM tore me during the delivery, to which he said "what the hell is that ?".
The whole thing was awful. I cannot stand MOST officers I have met. My father is a DO, my mom and FNP, and both have told me that in a civillian hospital I would have grounds for a mal-prac suit. Nor have I ever met a soldier who intentionally mistreats Officers, especially while they are in labor, of course, you'd have to understand that they are in pain, usually scared ( after all, most of US don't bring in over a grand in BAH). Perhaps if you could see past that shiny s*** on your beret, you might realize that Rank doesn't make the person, it makes your paycheck. Shame on you- you are a nurse-you shouldn't have gone into the nursing profession if you didn't like "waiting" on people. Idiots like this are why I left the Army.

wow-sorry for your awful experience during a time that is so important and exciting! I had one baby in Germany and the other at Ft. Knox-both times I could not have asked for better care. Just curious-was your experience at Womack?

Off topic-but I saw in one of your previous posts that you were commo-I was too! Talk about us can't talk without us!

CEG · May 8, 2006

Likewise.

Sorry everyone :offtopic:

J's girl this is going to go off topic, but I couldn't not reply.

I was an officer in the Army, I am now a nursing student/future CNM. I would love to go back into the Army and be a CNM.

Officers get paid more, they get more benefits, they get treated better, they don't do the physical labor of a soldier. The reason is because an officer is supposed to embody a set of ideals- an officer should be a role model, someone who puts his/her soldiers above him/herself, an officer should live by the Army values. An officer should ensure that their soldiers are taken care of and the mission is accomplished.

Those officers who treated you that way are absolutely disgusting examples of the worst the Army has to offer. I am absolutely serious. They should be ashamed of themselves. Their job as Army docs is not just to do provide medical care, but to provide care to everyone in the Army. It is their privilege and duty as medical officers in the Army to provide care to enlisted, officers, and their families.

I want you to know that it's not like that everywhere. My care was fabulous, my CNM was awesome, and I know did not treat different ranks differently. I don't know how long ago it was, but I would encourage you to contact your IG and chain of command. If you were my soldier I would be jumping on someone's desk about this until I got an apology and a plan for change, which is no less than you deserve as a soldier in the United States Army.

I hope you find peace and healing and you are able to look at your baby's arrival as a joyous event and someday have more if that's what you want.

I know form another thread that you are also a fellow CNM hopeful, I wish you the best.

Courtney

J'sGirl82 · May 8, 2006

Sorry everyone :offtopic:
J's girl this is going to go off topic, but I couldn't not reply.
I was an officer in the Army, I am now a nursing student/future CNM. I would love to go back into the Army and be a CNM.
Officers get paid more, they get more benefits, they get treated better, they don't do the physical labor of a soldier. The reason is because an officer is supposed to embody a set of ideals- an officer should be a role model, someone who puts his/her soldiers above him/herself, an officer should live by the Army values. An officer should ensure that their soldiers are taken care of and the mission is accomplished.
Those officers who treated you that way are absolutely disgusting examples of the worst the Army has to offer. I am absolutely serious. They should be ashamed of themselves. Their job as Army docs is not just to do provide medical care, but to provide care to everyone in the Army. It is their privilege and duty as medical officers in the Army to provide care to enlisted, officers, and their families.
I want you to know that it's not like that everywhere. My care was fabulous, my CNM was awesome, and I know did not treat different ranks differently. I don't know how long ago it was, but I would encourage you to contact your IG and chain of command. If you were my soldier I would be jumping on someone's desk about this until I got an apology and a plan for change, which is no less than you deserve as a soldier in the United States Army.
I hope you find peace and healing and you are able to look at your baby's arrival as a joyous event and someday have more if that's what you want.
I know form another thread that you are also a fellow CNM hopeful, I wish you the best.
Courtney

Please save it. :nono: I have 5 years of listening that same garbage you are trying to feed me. My point was, the Texas RN FNP ( or whatever it is) showed her true colors by her statement, and only people with that rational of thinking believe they are superior b/c of their rank. Point blank. End of that conversation. BTW, I do not consider my L&D my CO's business ( not that he would give two hoots I'm sure), but also IG doesn't handle complaints of mistreatment in DACH. I did speak to someone, a butter bar, who pretty much lit her cigarette and told me to be happy the baby was "OK for now".

SmilingBluEyes · May 8, 2006

i will ask everyone to keep focused on the main topic and not hijack the thread with what could be considered stereotypical posts. i understand there have been some very poor experiences in some situations; the appropriate place to take this up is with the hospital commanding officer (co), not to indict all officers based on one or two experiences.

again, enjoy the thread, be free to discuss the topic, but please, try to stay focused and calm. thank you.

J'sGirl82 · May 8, 2006

You're right Blue eyes about high jacking the thread, and to be honest, that was not at all my intentions, honesty. But, like I've said to every other poster, I don't need you to add your 2 cents to the situation, my original point with the post still stands. Thanks and have a great and glorious day.

Gompers, BSN, RN · May 9, 2006

Lots of sports babies!

My mother-in-law was the L&D nurse for the wife of a Chicago Cub. He was a rookie at the time, and it was their sixth child so she said it was pretty much a do-it-yourself situation! This was a few years before he became famous though.

NurseNora, BSN, RN · May 20, 2006

Wife of a major league baseball player--charming couple. Of course, he was still a rookie and they hadn't gotten used to being rich and famous. Hopefully they stayed charming after that happened.

Girlfriend of a highly ranked MBA player, not the same story. She and her family kept dropping his name and I finally had to ask if that was a name I was supposed to recognize (I asked other staff, not the family). They certainaly expected special treatment because of him. Once he got there, he was a little less impressed with himself than they were. I had to push him a little to get involved, but no more than many other fathers. The only thing that bothered me was that this multimillion dollar basket ball player who accepted this baby as his and was willing to pay extra so she could have a private room post partum, was willing to let the rest of her medical bills be paid for by public assistance.

buildingmyfaith57 · May 20, 2006

when i was pregnant with my second child, i didnt want the naval hospital i even cry,and bagged my husband don't make me. because the way they treated me. when i was pregnant with my thrid child, did i go back to that hospital even thro they bagged me to come back. i ask my hubby how bad does he want to touch me again?