CCNE Accreditation is important???( Urgent )

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hi all!

i accepted american university of health sciences, and i heard this bsn program don't have ccne accreditation.

i will go for a master's program, and my main goal is to become an np.what is the most important things for ccne accreditation? how can i know this program do have ccne accreditation? please, give me great advice!

thank you,

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I don't think you can even sit for the NCLEX if the program is not accredited, can you?

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I don't think you can even sit for the NCLEX if the program is not accredited, can you?

I think you can if the unaccredited nursing program has been approved by the state board of nursing. This will work differently in different states, though.

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I think you can if the unaccredited nursing program has been approved by the state board of nursing. This will work differently in different states, though.

Yeh, I just looked and in my state (CA), according to the BRN:

"This is to inform prospective applicants and nursing students about an increasing number of

unaccredited nursing programs operating within California. The Board of Registered Nursing (Board)

will not qualify an applicant to take the National Council Licensing Examination (NCLEX), or to be

licensed, after completion of an unaccredited nursing program. If any portion of the instruction is

completed at or through an unapproved nursing program, it is considered unaccredited."

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Yeh, I just looked and in my state (CA), according to the BRN:

"This is to inform prospective applicants and nursing students about an increasing number of

unaccredited nursing programs operating within California. The Board of Registered Nursing (Board)

will not qualify an applicant to take the National Council Licensing Examination (NCLEX), or to be

licensed, after completion of an unaccredited nursing program.

If any portion of the instruction is

completed at or through an unapproved nursing program, it is considered unaccredited."

Interesting. It's different in my state.

That aside, I can't think of any justification for attending an unaccredited program, even if your state BON will let you be licensed. It would limit your options for the rest of your career.

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I'm not sure about it. What is NLNAC? If they have NLNAC,is it same thing with CCNE accreditation??
The NLNAC stands for the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission. The NLNAC is not the same accreditation entity as the CCNE, but it is equivalent. Here is a quote from their website:

The National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC) is responsible for the specialized accreditation of nursing education programs (Clinical Doctorate, Master's Degree, Baccalaureate Degree, Associate Degree, Diploma, and Practical Nursing program).

Here's the link to the NLN website: http://www.nlnac.org/About%20NLNAC/whatsnew.htm

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Agreed, because you can also run into problems if you want to eventually be licensed in another state that requires education from an accredited program, or further your education. You never know where your life will take you!

Also, we have a private program here that a lot of people I know got their LVN through and wanted to return to school to become an RN/BSN. It turns out, only the nursing portion was accredited, so they had to do all of their prereqs all over again, so making sure that the ENTIRE program is accredited is important as well.

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This program has been apporved by the state board of nursing(CA). However, they don't have CCNE...What should I do.. I told with them on the phone today. They said that they will get a CCNE next year but how do I know for sure....

I think you can if the unaccredited nursing program has been approved by the state board of nursing. This will work differently in different states, though.
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This program has been apporved by the state board of nursing(CA). However, they don't have CCNE...What should I do.. I told with them on the phone today. They said that they will get a CCNE next year but how do I know for sure....

Be careful with that. We have a program in San Diego that has been saying that for years and has never attained it. I can't remember the name of the school. There is no guarantee that they will get it! Did you check on the CA BRN website to see that they are approved/accredited?

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This program has been apporved by the state board of nursing(CA). However, they don't have CCNE...What should I do.. I told with them on the phone today. They said that they will get a CCNE next year but how do I know for sure....

Ava,

Spoken words mean nothing in this type of thing. It matters if the program is accredited when you are enrolled. I cannot fathom attending an unaccredited program, especially when you have aspirations that will require further education.

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This program has been apporved by the state board of nursing(CA). However, they don't have CCNE...What should I do.. I told with them on the phone today. They said that they will get a CCNE next year but how do I know for sure....

The accreditation process takes a few years, usually, and American is not listed as a candidate for accreditation yet on the CCNE website. So it's safe to say they will not get CCNE accreditation next year. They might be planning on applying for accreditation next year, but, again, the process will take a few years once they've applied. And that's something that a lot of unaccredited schools tell potential students who ask about accreditation -- that they're just about to apply for accreditation. They could be planning to apply for accreditation for the rest of your life, but it won't mean anything until they do it. :rolleyes:

Re: the question of requiring "accreditation" to be eligible for licensure, I've practiced and taught nursing in a few different states over the years, and I've never heard of a state BON requiring NLNAC or CCNE accreditation for licensure. Every state requires that you be a graduate of a program approved by the state BON, and a few states "muddy the waters" by using the term "accreditation" to refer to state BON approval. It looks like CA may be one of those states. The statement from the BRN website quoted by ExPharmaGirl appears to use the terms "accredited" and "approved" interchangeably, which is certainly confusing. However, I just checked the CA BRN list of approved programs (meaning graduates are eligible for CA licensure) posted on the website, and a bunch of the programs listed as "approved" by the BRN are not accredited by either NLNAC or CCNE, so it appears that they are referring to BRN approval rather than CCNE or NLNAC accreditation.

That does not change the fact, though, that it's hard to come up with a justification for spending time and money in an unaccredited nursing program. Graduating from an unaccredited program is something that can come back to hurt you when you least expect it throughout your entire career. Returning to school to further your education usually requires that you be a graduate of an accredited program, and some employers will only hire graduates of accredited programs, also. No point in closing the door to future career opportunities this early in the process!

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The accreditation process takes a few years, usually, and American is not listed as a candidate for accreditation yet on the CCNE website. So it's safe to say they will not get CCNE accreditation next year. They might be planning on applying for accreditation next year, but, again, the process will take a few years once they've applied. And that's something that a lot of unaccredited schools tell potential students who ask about accreditation -- that they're just about to apply for accreditation. They could be planning to apply for accreditation for the rest of your life, but it won't mean anything until they do it. :rolleyes:

Re: the question of requiring "accreditation" to be eligible for licensure, I've practiced and taught nursing in a few different states over the years, and I've never heard of a state BON requiring NLNAC or CCNE accreditation for licensure. Every state requires that you be a graduate of a program approved by the state BON, and a few states "muddy the waters" by using the term "accreditation" to refer to state BON approval. It looks like CA may be one of those states. The statement from the BRN website quoted by ExPharmaGirl appears to use the terms "accredited" and "approved" interchangeably, which is certainly confusing. However, I just checked the CA BRN list of approved programs (meaning graduates are eligible for CA licensure) posted on the website, and a bunch of the programs listed as "approved" by the BRN are not accredited by either NLNAC or CCNE, so it appears that they are referring to BRN approval rather than CCNE or NLNAC accreditation.

That does not change the fact, though, that it's hard to come up with a justification for spending time and money in an unaccredited nursing program. Graduating from an unaccredited program is something that can come back to hurt you when you least expect it throughout your entire career. Returning to school to further your education usually requires that you be a graduate of an accredited program, and some employers will only hire graduates of accredited programs, also. No point in closing the door to future career opportunities this early in the process!

Oooh, I fell into that approval vs accredited confusion trap :o Thanks for clearing that up!

I agree that it is not worth going through an unaccredited program, even though approved by the BRN. You don't want to waste your money and not be able to further your education. The school you are applying to Ava is a private school and I am guessing expensive. I, too, am going to a private school, so I feel the pain there (fortunately mine is not too bad though). Spend your money elsewhere at an accredited institution! The wait may be longer, but will be worth it.

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Be careful with that. We have a program in San Diego that has been saying that for years and has never attained it. I can't remember the name of the school. There is no guarantee that they will get it! Did you check on the CA BRN website to see that they are approved/accredited?

Yes, I agree with you!Who knows? The program approved by CA BRN though.

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