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CC system dropping Co-reqs...

Specializes in Telemetry, ICU, Psych.

I have just downloaded the Spring 2006 CC nursing application and learned that - for applicants for Summer 2006 and beyond - the CNA requirement (prereq), nutrition (FON 241) and Human Pathophysiology (HCC/HCR 240) are no longer required!!! What do you guys think of this?

BTW - I'm still going to take them this fall (already have my CNA) in hopes of getting in Spring 2006.

CrazyPremed

boomerfriend

Specializes in Pediatric ICU.

Yes, those have been eliminated. However, the mystery is still where are they going to incorporate that material into the curriculum? You know we are all going to need Patho, Lord knows we all need help in Nutrition (Americans are getting fatter by the year). And, who ever heard of starting the nursing program without the knowledge gained in the CNA program? I just took it over the summer and it was really good BASIC knowledge (turning patients correctly, lifting, hand-washing, etc.). I know the CNA stuff used to be incorporated into the first block so maybe they'll do that again.

I've also heard that some people are going to wait till those pre-req's are eliminated to put in their application. Fine by me. I'm hoping to get in this Spring and have those done already. Less competition...

None of the programs I applied to had CNA training as co-req or pre-req.

One requires nutrition and you take it during the program. So is Patho.

Sounds like they are revamping the entire progam.

They are revamping the entire schedule but to those of us with our aps already in, none of this applies. The people that turn in their applications during spring week, applying for fall 2006 will not have to have CNA and their patho is supposed to be incoorporated into block one. I'm not sure where they'll put FON. I applied in June and I know of at least two people who decided to wait to turn in their aps so that they don't have to take CNA (it's so hard to get in a class anyway), I"m just hoping there's more like them and I"ll only have to wait one semester (fall) to get into a program, instead of two.

cardiacRN2006, ADN, RN

Specializes in Cardiac.

None of the programs I applied to had CNA training as co-req or pre-req.

One requires nutrition and you take it during the program. So is Patho.

Sounds like they are revamping the entire progam.

Yeah, our program doesn't require any CNA either. They don't even ask if you have it or what kind of experience you have or anything. We just complete all of our pre-requisites, and then apply. The application was a photocopy and it only asked for our name and address. That's it. So easy...If you are a CNA or tech then the first semester you will be bored out of your mind in clinicals and skills lab.

Yeah, our program doesn't require any CNA either. They don't even ask if you have it or what kind of experience you have or anything. We just complete all of our pre-requisites, and then apply. The application was a photocopy and it only asked for our name and address. That's it. So easy...If you are a CNA or tech then the first semester you will be board out of your mind in clinicals and skills lab.

What program are you in?

cardiacRN2006, ADN, RN

Specializes in Cardiac.

What program are you in?

Sorry, I'm down here in Tucson. But the program is very easy. Not a lot of expectations, no papers to write (other than the occasional care plan here and there). Clinicals are easy and the clinical instructors are very nurturing. We really get pushed clincally though, meaning that we get a lot of opportunities to perform of a lot of clincial skills, but we don't have a lot of paperwork to do. It's great. This semester, I will spend a total of 5 hours in class a week (over 2 days).

Wow, that sounds great!! I wish we had some programs like that up here. When I started this whole thing I figured since I already had a BS it wouldn't take long to get my ASN, wrong!! After four semesters of pre-req's I'm still waiting on a nursing school opening which will take another two years!! Four years for an ASN, go figure.

cardiacRN2006, ADN, RN

Specializes in Cardiac.

Wow, that sounds great!! I wish we had some programs like that up here. When I started this whole thing I figured since I already had a BS it wouldn't take long to get my ASN, wrong!! After four semesters of pre-req's I'm still waiting on a nursing school opening which will take another two years!! Four years for an ASN, go figure.

Does ASU have an accelerated program for people w/BS? Here at UofA it is 16 months, and it is free. You just have to give a committment to one of 3 hospitals, all of which are good places to work. Plus, you will get a BSN out of it.

I think they did have something, but the pre-req requirement (if I remember right) was longer than for an ASN's pre-req's. I think you just needed less pre-req's completed to apply or something like that, can't remember now. My plan is to get my ASN (if I can ever get into NS) then ASU has an RN-BSN plan that only takes a year, one night a week and hopefully the hospital I'll work in will cover it. I've just heard that the clinicals are better and you get more of them through the ASN program, plus it's so much cheaper...

Luckily my BS did cover a couple of co-req's and two or three of my pre-req's. When do you graduate? Did you not have ANY pre-req's? Wish I'd know about that two years ago.... :crying2:

cardiacRN2006, ADN, RN

Specializes in Cardiac.

I think they did have something, but the pre-req requirement (if I remember right) was longer than for an ASN's pre-req's. I think you just needed less pre-req's completed to apply or something like that, can't remember now. My plan is to get my ASN (if I can ever get into NS) then ASU has an RN-BSN plan that only takes a year, one night a week and hopefully the hospital I'll work in will cover it. I've just heard that the clinicals are better and you get more of them through the ASN program, plus it's so much cheaper...

Luckily my BS did cover a couple of co-req's and two or three of my pre-req's. When do you graduate? Did you not have ANY pre-req's? Wish I'd know about that two years ago.... :crying2:

I have 2 semesters to go. Our pre-reqs are Math 122, WRT 101,102, CHEM 130, A&P 1 & 2, Human BIO.

Co-reqs are, Nutrition, PSY, Micro, Early childhood education, and pharm.

I was already working towards a BS in micro, so I had the math, bio, and chem down, but Nutrition, PSY, Early childhood, Human Bio, WRT, Math and A&P (both semesters) were available online or self paced. You could probably find chem online too. I loved A&P self paced, because I could come in and do like 5 chapters in one day. Nursing school was one of the first semesters that I had to come in and listen to lectures. Did I mention that at our nursing school, that we buy the lectures on disks before the start of class and print them out. Yep, I don't even have to take notes in my class. I just highlight the notes or the book as the instructor teaches. It's great!

boomerfriend

Specializes in Pediatric ICU.

Wow, that sounds great!! I wish we had some programs like that up here. When I started this whole thing I figured since I already had a BS it wouldn't take long to get my ASN, wrong!! After four semesters of pre-req's I'm still waiting on a nursing school opening which will take another two years!! Four years for an ASN, go figure.

Calzonan: I'm in the same boat at you...four semesters of pre-req's and now cooling my heels waiting for a seat in the nursing school. I'm taking Patho and my humanities this fall. I figure taking Patho now and getting as much out of it as possible can only help me. I, too, am going to go on to ASU after getting my ADN. Seems a long way off....

Deanna

Calzonan: I'm in the same boat at you...four semesters of pre-req's and now cooling my heels waiting for a seat in the nursing school. I'm taking Patho and my humanities this fall. I figure taking Patho now and getting as much out of it as possible can only help me. I, too, am going to go on to ASU after getting my ADN. Seems a long way off....

Deanna

Deanna, I"m taking patho and FON this fall too, I figure I might as well get my co-req's finished while I wait and luckily my BS covered Eng102 and my Hum so all I have left is NS. That's the only good part to waiting a semester (or more). Where are you taking patho? I"m going to CGCC in a hybrid class. I found out at the BAnner fellowship info session today, that some of the hospitals actually have RN-BSN classes at the hospital, I'd heard that before but I"m glad the rumor was confirmed. When did you turn in your ap? Where did you apply? Do you know your lottery number? I got a pretty bad one, I'm so disappointed in that.

boomerfriend

Specializes in Pediatric ICU.

I'm taking HCR 240AA at MCC. My lottery number is 119 and my app was turned in in June at MCC. Looks good for the Spring. I'd really like to get into MCC with no more than this fall semester wait.

At the Banner info session today did they mention the ASU-Banner program? I'm guessing not because the one you went to today is in association with Gateway. Look at the other thread on Banner Nurse Fellows program. Do you know anything about this program? I looked on ASU's and Banner's websites and nothing's listed. Perhaps its that new?

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