are canadian RNs still going to USA

mardibc · Mar 20, 2010

I'm moving to NY in 3 weeks and feel I truly have been offered my "dream" job. I didn't start applying until after my NY license was issued and I had the visa screen. Be prepared to explain what the TN visa is and it's helpful to provide written information on it, I didn't find one potential employer that was familiar with it. Good luck with your search ~

Henderson.RN · Mar 21, 2010

This was recent in my local newspaper in Ottawa. March 20, 2010

Article #1

Nurses go where the jobs are

By JUSTIN SADLER, Ottawa Sun

Last Updated: March 19, 2010 8:14pm

Nurses are going to go where the jobs are, plain and simple, said the head of a local nurses union.

And that means working nurses and new graduates are likely to flock across the border or overseas as the job market in Ottawa shrinks, said Frances Smith, bargaining unit president of Local 83 of the Ontario Nurses Association.

FOR THE REST OF THE ARTICLE: http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/03/19/13296786.html

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Article #2

Experts warn of nursing shortage

By CHRISTINA SPENCER, PARLIAMENTARY BUREAU

Last Updated: March 20, 2010 8:00pm

OTTAWA — Canada is in danger of losing huge numbers of nurses to other countries as provincial governments struggle to slash deficits by freezing or cutting their jobs, nursing advocates say.

“We are very concerned that nurses are actually going to the (United) States,” said Linda Haslam-Stroud, president of the Ontario Nurses Association. “The States have many recruiters up here on a monthly basis.”

FOR THE REST OF THE ARTICLE: http://www.ottawasun.com/news/canada/2010/03/20/13303251.html

So yes, nurses from Canada are still leaving for better pay and better job security. :nurse:

fenders · Mar 22, 2010

I am also looking at working int he states. I have avery young family and need to support them as much as possible, need full time. Ontario = no full time. I have full time now but cost of living in Toronto is through the roof. I don;t want to commute too far, been there done that.

The warnings have been issued, you watch it will happen, 1990 all over again. Anyone know how taxes work working across the border.

RN1980 · Mar 22, 2010

I am also looking at working int he states. I have avery young family and need to support them as much as possible, need full time. Ontario = no full time. I have full time now but cost of living in Toronto is through the roof. I don;t want to commute too far, been there done that.
The warnings have been issued, you watch it will happen, 1990 all over again. Anyone know how taxes work working across the border.

well thanks to our new health care reform our taxes will probably be sky high before long.

fenders · Mar 22, 2010

Actually I don't mind paying taxes for free health care. But when the cost of living doesn't adjust to it. There are smaller cities which have a lower cost of living and that's where I am trying to go. I would not even hesitate to choose a reformed health care if I were in the states. There's to much comparison to what we have in Canada but we have a great health care, just need some responsible politicians to fine tune it and to weed out the abusers.

It'll be interesting though. does feel like the bleak 90's approaching us again.

shortstuff_RN · Mar 23, 2010

I live in Windsor, work in Detroit. Cost of living in Windsor (and surrounding areas) is minuscule in comparison to toronto. Housing is cheap, especially right now. Decent houses for 200 000. If you are an experienced RN, there should be no problem finding a job in Michigan. DMC, i believe, is on a hiring freeze. However, they were just bought out by a for-profit company, who is investing over 800 million into the hospitals, so this could change in the near future. I believe Henry Ford hospital has just started hiring again, as well as St Johns. There's many hospitals in the region..but I'm not entirely familiar with all of them. This is my first year working in the states, so I'm not entirely sure how the taxes work. I do pay michigan taxes each paycheck. I'm not sure what will happen when i file my Ontario tax return next year. I'm assuming that I will owe money, since I live here.

fenders · Mar 23, 2010

I live in Windsor, work in Detroit. Cost of living in Windsor (and surrounding areas) is minuscule in comparison to toronto. Housing is cheap, especially right now. Decent houses for 200 000. If you are an experienced RN, there should be no problem finding a job in Michigan. DMC, i believe, is on a hiring freeze. However, they were just bought out by a for-profit company, who is investing over 800 million into the hospitals, so this could change in the near future. I believe Henry Ford hospital has just started hiring again, as well as St Johns. There's many hospitals in the region..but I'm not entirely familiar with all of them. This is my first year working in the states, so I'm not entirely sure how the taxes work. I do pay michigan taxes each paycheck. I'm not sure what will happen when i file my Ontario tax return next year. I'm assuming that I will owe money, since I live here.

Thanks alot for the info short stuff. I have family in Tecumseh and like going down to windsor for visits. WRH says they have part time but you need to get full time through internal posts which isn't much as some nurses are coming back from the states. My mother in low is a RN at Hotel dieux, same thing but she has friends over at DMC and they are willing to sponser. Looks like they are starting to put up postings for jobs at DMC. I just need a ful time position, get the family moved there. I'm waiting for my ATT to write the nclex, starting to study now.

How's the commute across the bridge, tunnel? can you use the benefits from detroit in Canada?

shortstuff_RN · Mar 23, 2010

Thanks alot for the info short stuff. I have family in Tecumseh and like going down to windsor for visits. WRH says they have part time but you need to get full time through internal posts which isn't much as some nurses are coming back from the states. My mother in low is a RN at Hotel dieux, same thing but she has friends over at DMC and they are willing to sponser. Looks like they are starting to put up postings for jobs at DMC. I just need a ful time position, get the family moved there. I'm waiting for my ATT to write the nclex, starting to study now.
How's the commute across the bridge, tunnel? can you use the benefits from detroit in Canada?

I know a few people that work at Hotel Dieu, and they've had warning about layoffs, apparently. WRH..they probably do have part-time positions..but as a new nurse, i knew for sure that i wouldn't even be considered. It's all about who you know around here. ugh.

The commute isn't bad. Weekends are busy..and the NEXUS lane doesn't operate on weekends, so it's a little rough on those days. It takes me 20-25 minutes to get to the DMC from where I live. The benefits with the DMC, it's set up in tiers. I still don't understand much of it, but it pretty much allows you to use DMC services for the lowest cost. If you use "out of network" providers, than you're paying more. In terms of dental, one insurance company allows you to use "out of network" providers..so I opted with that one because i can use it here in canada. I did not get vision, because their vision plans are not so great.

If you plan on living in canada, all u need is to get the TN visa...with no cost to the hospital for sponsoring. They just need to give you an employment letter, and you take it to the US border.

shortstuff_RN · Mar 23, 2010

I forgot to mention that you are required to get a "VisaScreen" to work in the USA. It's a bit pricey. Some hospitals will pay for it.

fenders · Mar 24, 2010

you rock ! thank you again. your a big help :)

jenn8500 · Mar 27, 2010

Mardibc,

I am currently going to school in NYS and will be graduating this may with an ADN nursing degree. I'm just wondering if you were able to get licensed in NYS without a SSN? I have tried to find information on this and from what I've found, NYS is one of the states that will allow you to get a license without a SSN but I'm not really sure if this is correct. I am hoping to work in the U.S. for a year or two, but I'm a bit concerned with the tight job market right now and the fact that I will be a new grad....I was thinking of looking for positions in Buffalo as I'm sure they probably have experience hiring Canadians. If anyone has any advice on the visa process and how it works, it would be greatly appreciated!