Calling all Truman College Nursing Students

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Hi,

Are there any nursing students from Truman on here? Past or present. I have some questions that I can't seem to find the answer to on their website.

1. Is the admission still "lottery system" based? How would that exactly work? I saw on their website that they award points on GPA (ex: "4 X 4 = 16 pts for an A in A&P"). If it's a lottery, how come they look at GPA?

2. What GPA did you have when you got in? Are you a current or past student?

3. If it's GPA based, I think I'll have more luck getting in like that than the lottery. One last thing I wanted to ask, would any of you Truman students, past or present, be willing to sell or let me borrow your notes from Truman's Nursing School? I know you might think I'm trying to find an easy way out or cheat or something. What I really want to do, since I have the summer off, is to study ahead. I have done this in the past with Anatomy and Physiology and it has helped me tons. That's just how I learn. When I have free time, I just like to look at things from a non rushed way. Once school starts, I'll have 17 credit hours of classes and plus work. I will also be studying ahead for Microbiology and A&P this summer so I can really have a lot of time to digest the material.

*Please if you know anyone that would let me use their notes, contact me and I'll work someting out with them. :specs:

Thanks

Hello,

I took Math 125 because I knew you need this to get into any BSN program in the future. I took Math 140 a long time ago but it didn't count because it was 5 yrs old :D

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Chiros...

Not sure what you mean by Block 1, 2, etc. Tell me where you're getting this from and maybe I can be more helpful.

Unreally...

Never a bad thing that you took more math, but the only courses that "expire" within 5 years are the sciences, math and english never do...you did not HAVE to take 125. You are correct that statistics will be useful when you go on for a BSN.

Re: HESI...

No...it's not being done away with, even if you rather it would be. There are strong correlations between the HESI assessment exams and success on the NCLEX licensure examination. For all the "grief" that students may perceive, encounter, and may even endure at Truman (and perhaps other City Colleges), Truman is one of only two accredited nursing programs within the City Colleges of Chicago AND we boast the second HIGHEST NCLEX pass rate for the last 10 years in the state if Illinois (only to Rush University) of ALL other nursing programs. Not just ADN nursing programs. Why? The quality of nursing instruction at Truman as well as the HESI exam used to assess graduates at the end of the program. Last year we began using HESI specialty exams throughout the program to help students figure out how they are progressing along the way instead of learning at the end where they stand. Bottom line, Truman College, like life AND nursing isn't fair nor easy. That just is what it is. But you'll become an excellent nurse if you are successful in the program!

Hope that helps,

ERNURSEDAD

Faculty, Truman College

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So, what exactly is the minimum percentage required on the HESI exam to be able to sit for the NCLEX? And if it's not being done away with then why is there an amnesty for students who previously took the HESI and weren't able to sit for the NCLEX?

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We're going to be registering for 2nd semester soon (there was a post on the bulletin board). Do any of you have any idea of how they'll be doing registration this time?

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Which professors for 102 would you all recommend or not recommend?

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Which professors for 102 would you all recommend or not recommend?

How was the first semester? Did they sort out the issues with the influx of students from the closed programs?

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To mono2012: I heard about that happening (that they were closing some CCC programs), but we actually did NOT get any new students at Truman. I started out with 30 people in my class and I'm ending with my number. I don't know how they'll deal with that, but I know that in Nursing there are specific rules. It can't be like an enrollment of 35 or something because it would mess up our clinicals. For example, only ten people per clinical are allowed. So having 35 wouldn't give groups of ten.

The first semester is going great. I'm actually liking it more than I thought I would. I like the professors and I like my clinicals. There is a lot of support for us nursing students. They have a SNA (Student Nurses Association) that's run by 2nd year nursing students and 1st year students join. So far, I'm very glad I chose this program. For a community college, I would rate it as excellent. I have found the nursing students to be highly intelligent and ambitious individuals. Again, this is my experience so others opinion may vary.

Are you from another school? Are you in Nursing School?

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I'm going to CCC-Olive Harvey and applying to West Sub/Resurrection for next fall. A lot of my current classmates in Chem 201 were hoping to go to OH but since it closed are trying to decide between Truman/Daley.

glad its going well!

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Does anyone know what the topics are for Nursing 102? Thanks.

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HI 4Hana9,

I am very happy for you to be ready to register for 102. I unfortunatelly did not pass 101, I was short a few point so I withdrew the class. I was working full time job and was not doing well on my tests and when i realized it was too late to bring my grade up. I did not want to jeopardize my gpa, so I withdrew. I sent my readmission letter so hopefully they will save a seat for me next Fall. I got a 94 in clinicals, but as we all know, we have to pass both. I was thinking on taking a CNA class in the mean time so I can look for a job at the hospital to get experince while I wait, because my employer already told me that he is not going to accomodate for me to go to school and made me chose between my school or my job, well guess what! my school!. I decided not to work when I start school this time, because of my full time job, I have to repeat 101 :crying2: I went today to daley to register for CNA classes, they start on 1-10-10. I passed MediMan, do you think I can use the clinical experience to seat to take the CNA examination? or I have to pay for CNA classes and do it all over again? :uhoh3:

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Chiros...

Not sure what you mean by Block 1, 2, etc. Tell me where you're getting this from and maybe I can be more helpful.

Unreally...

Never a bad thing that you took more math, but the only courses that "expire" within 5 years are the sciences, math and english never do...you did not HAVE to take 125. You are correct that statistics will be useful when you go on for a BSN.

Re: HESI...

No...it's not being done away with, even if you rather it would be. There are strong correlations between the HESI assessment exams and success on the NCLEX licensure examination. For all the "grief" that students may perceive, encounter, and may even endure at Truman (and perhaps other City Colleges), Truman is one of only two accredited nursing programs within the City Colleges of Chicago AND we boast the second HIGHEST NCLEX pass rate for the last 10 years in the state if Illinois (only to Rush University) of ALL other nursing programs. Not just ADN nursing programs. Why? The quality of nursing instruction at Truman as well as the HESI exam used to assess graduates at the end of the program. Last year we began using HESI specialty exams throughout the program to help students figure out how they are progressing along the way instead of learning at the end where they stand. Bottom line, Truman College, like life AND nursing isn't fair nor easy. That just is what it is. But you'll become an excellent nurse if you are successful in the program!

Hope that helps,

ERNURSEDAD

Faculty, Truman College

To ERnurseDAD, I know that truman is oh so very proud of their success rate... But has Truman ever taken a look at your failure rate? The class of 2011 has lost over 50 students since they started 1st yr. Maybe it's time to take a look at this huge problem, and the major discrepancy in numbers. How is it possible that a student can make it all the way to the end of the program... and then fail because of the HESI? And even though its being added in differently (it affects a percentage of our grade, strategically weaseled into the numbers), it's still being used against the students, instead of as an "actual" assesment tool it is claimed to be. Maybe it's because, although the HESI and NCLEX have a GREAT correlation, the courses taught by the instructors do not correlate with HESI. I am not saying that the instructors aren't great at what they do. As a matter of fact, I have a great relationship with all my nursing instructors. But I know first hand that there is a HUGE difference in the tests the theory instructor gives, vs the HESI. The instructors are preparing us to pass their test, and therefore students are unsuccessful when challenged with the HESI. This is why the Chancellor is getting involved. Because everyone forgets about those who didn't get to move on in the program. Nothing was done to help these students be successful. Shoving material down the students throats, and expecting them to know it all, is unrealistic. Especially for those students who are a blank slate... For those who are doing good, and succeeding, KUDOS to them (us). And keep going strong (I know I will). For "THE FALLEN" get back up and do your thang! I really believe that the Chancellor is going to make a difference. Go to her 'reinventing ccc' website and read about what she is trying to do. From what I hear, the students of 2011 are getting ready to fight for their rights, as did the class of 2010. Even though this does not affect me, I believe in what I say, therefore you can count on me to stand by those who need my support. The way HESI is being abused (a disadvantage to students) Is HESI really being used as an assesment? If that were true, then students would get to move on in the program. But that is not the case. It is being used as a tool to prevent those who staff believe may be unsuccessful with NCLEX, from ever even getting a chance. An assesment tool would be given in the beginning, and then extra help would be provided to those who showed areas that they would need to brush up on. Again, lets look at the number. A little less than half of the students get dropped from the program before reaching 2nd yr. We will lose more students in 2nd yr due to the fact that we have 15 exams total we have to take in our last semester! Let's keep tabs on how many actually graduate.... Then we'll see if we should really be proud of that "so called" HIGH passing rate. I think it's sad really..... Well, good luck to all of us going into our last semester of our 2nd yr. Lord knows we'll need it...

And to your comment about life, as well as the nursing program, not being fair.... I'm happy that you agree that the program is being directed unfairly. I'm sure others would agree with me that we deserve a fair chance. Especially with the inflated tuition we pay.:nurse:

TrumanNursingStudent

class of 2011

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HI 4Hana9,

I am very happy for you to be ready to register for 102. I unfortunatelly did not pass 101, I was short a few point so I withdrew the class. I was working full time job and was not doing well on my tests and when i realized it was too late to bring my grade up. I did not want to jeopardize my gpa, so I withdrew. I sent my readmission letter so hopefully they will save a seat for me next Fall. I got a 94 in clinicals, but as we all know, we have to pass both. I was thinking on taking a CNA class in the mean time so I can look for a job at the hospital to get experince while I wait, because my employer already told me that he is not going to accomodate for me to go to school and made me chose between my school or my job, well guess what! my school!. I decided not to work when I start school this time, because of my full time job, I have to repeat 101 :crying2: I went today to daley to register for CNA classes, they start on 1-10-10. I passed MediMan, do you think I can use the clinical experience to seat to take the CNA examination? or I have to pay for CNA classes and do it all over again? :uhoh3:

Hey Ruby2623,

I am sorry you did not pass. I hope next time goes better for you. You should try asking because it all depends on what the law is. I've heard you have to have a year of Nursing School to take the CNA exam, but I might be wrong. Check with them and let us all know, but regardless of the answer, I think it would be a good idea for you to get your CNA. That way when you reapply, they'll see you took the initiative to do something to want to get back to Nursing School. Good luck!

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