Some facts about the West Coast BSN program

U.S.A. California

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So as I'm preparing to apply to BSN programs in the Southern California area for Spring 2014 admissions, I recently had an interview with West College's admissions and financial aid reps. So far, West Coast's program was on the bottom of my list because of all the negative information i had heard about the school, teachers, and that horrific price tag we have all seen associated with the school. But i'm so glad i met with the rep and got a lot of these rumors and facts verified because i can now make an informed decision. I wanted to share the details with you guys so you guys can have that opportunity as well......here it goes.

Timeframe (Bsn): 3.5 semesters pre-nursing, 4.5 semesters nursing (21.5 months). One academic year at West Coat is made up of 2.5 semesters. Total 8 semesters for the BSN degree. Classes are 10 weeks long and year round. Students are admitted each term so multiple times a year they will accept students into the program.

Pre-Requisites: About 16 classes and 3 of them are upper division (pathophysiology, English 2, Cultural Humanities) so those must be completed at West Coast or at a 4 year University. They have sort of an articulation agreement type thing on their website if you want to check and see if classes taken at a local community college transfer over.

Cost: Approximate numbers - 16,000 per semester, 2.5 semesters a year so about 37,000 per year. Complete your prerequisites at a community college! Most of that tuition ( what federal and grants won't cover) you pay via 2 options-pay monthly like a car payment or then get a private loan. My thoughts: 45,000 a year for a private school BSN-not as bad as I was thinking, especially if you knock out the prerequisites at a community college. I think Loma Linda has a similar price tag. Someone please clarify if I am wrong.

Students are doing clinical at Kaiser and Hoag Hospital, this I know for sure. I asked the west coast rep what the 6 month job placement rate was and his answer "we don't expect our students to come back and tell us"....ummm why aren't other colleges and universities using THAT excuse....SHADY. More like says a lot about the reputation of the program.

Admission requirements: getting approved for that private loan, if you have a minimum sat score then you don't have to take the HESI exam, and that's about it actually. No waiting list that I'm aware of but terms did fill up fast.

Accreditation: WASC regionally accredited, so state schools and future Masters programs will accept your degree!!

Hope this helps, I know it cleared up a lot of the concerns I had because of all the horror stories surrounding this school. If anyone can fill in the missing facts: Teacher/Class Quality, Job placement ( how hospitals are viewing the West Coast nurse, likely to hire?, ease in getting hired), and how well West Coast prepared you to be a nurse, this would be much appreciated by everyone seriously considering their BSN nursing options in SoCal.

Best of luck to all the future nurses out there.

Specializes in Pediatric ICU.

@Theone40

Because you said "...most people..." at least that leads me to believe that you are specifically speaking to people who are uninformed, and change the "most" to "some" and I can agree with you there. However it's still pretty unfair to generalize that "...most people who sign up for WCU do not understand how much..." That's insinuating that "most" people who decide to go to this school aren't intelligent enough to make informed financial decisions and or that they don't know what they're getting into and thus they are somehow getting scammed. As for me personally I am very intelligent and consider myself a very informed person, especially regarding my own personal financial matters, and my BSN program is well under that $140k number, well under the $100k number actually not that it's anyone's business or the point. And that's without any of the scholarships I'm looking into applying for right now. The exact details of my loans situation are of my business and not the point, the point being as long as I know all the details of my loans and my particular situation and I'm personally comfortable with it as well as the repaying of it down the line, why does it matter or of any concern to anyone else? As long as I'm comfortable with and know what I'm getting into, and know I'm getting a legitimate degree (which it is) and even more so a legitimate, awesome, and most rewarding career at the end of the road, who is anyone to judge the paths I choose? Who is anyone to say because they're NOT spending as much money as me or because someone else is choosing to go a route that is more...financially feasible or more financially eye appealing, that their route is better than mine or that their program is better? Or that their degree is better or more real, or that because I'm choosing a private school (who's CCNE & WASC accredited remind you) that it's somehow not as legitimate or that it's a joke? I am not specifically saying that you are saying this, but some do and I just thought I'd address that as well. Who is anyone to try to downgrade or try to belittle the paths I choose? However, if people that are against it and the ones that generalize their hating on in regards to this school if what you're really against is the fact that you don't want people to be naive to the fact, and you want uninformed people to pay attention and become informed and to not go into these schools or this school and this decision light-heartedly, then I can totally get behind you on that. I agree with that completely. Because remember, AllNurses is a place for people who all have one thing in common, we all strive to be an informed group of human beings and we are all striving to be great nurses. We all come to this website either looking to get help or to help others, not to belittle others or belittle others' decisions or the paths or choices other people make. This is a GREAT informational website where people of all backgrounds and all levels of medical knowledge come to give help or advice or get help/advice and or encouragement and that's what it should be and how it should stay. That's what drew me to this website to begin with. Cynicism and downgrading of others or others' choices is completely unnecessary. The fact of the matter is just like with anything super important in life, if you don't do as much research as possible and know as many angles about your decision as possible and or haven't explored all avenues or paths to a desired outcome, then yes at some point certain things could come back to bite you in the rear. That absolutely does not mean that the path for one person is or will be the right path for someone else. Just like just because the path of waiting and lesser expensive may be desired or the "right" path for some of us, and that path may not be what is "right" for others and that in and of itself does not make any of us who choose either-or any better or lesser of people, or nurses, (in this world) because of it. Again, best of luck to all!

Specializes in Pediatric ICU.

@Dedrid

Where am I with West Coast? I actually haven't started at the university yet, I start my program there in January. I just qualified for my financial aid and my student loans and turned in all my transcripts. I'm transferring from a community college. Frankly I was tired of waiting (I don't have time for waiting anymore), I'm not getting any younger (hahaha), my (science) classes are going to start expiring soon, and this is not something I'm trying to do or going into lightly. I've known I've wanted to be a nurse for quite some time now. I first became an EMT in 2004 and I've been working in home health for almost 3 years now. This is not just something that I thought up to do to try or something, or just what I want to do, I was meant to do this. You know. I know there are some people out there that know the feeling I'm talking about. And you, where are you at with them? Have you started yet? If so, do you like it? Good luck to you in your studies!

Nice! I'm trying to get into the April class- the advisor at our information session today said the January cohort filled up a while ago.

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Plute62,

I am suppose to start the Nursing Program in January if there is a spot open if not then April! Here in Dallas due to the high competition everyone is looking at WCU. I just got my financial aid going as well and in a few weeks will be signing the monthly installments. I was interested when they first opened in Dallas but due to my work schedule and my kids schedule I wanted more of an online program. So I looked at and I got stand-by on the August cohort the next one starts in May here but I just decided I didn't want to get stand-by again, also UTA is very competitive to get into but its online. So I think I can work my schedule with my daughter that I can attend now. I was an Army Medic then I worked here in Dallas as a PCT and been working at a clinic ever since. Well that was another reason I decided to look elsewhere I have to take all of my sciences over including pathophysiology due to the 5yr requirement, at WGU I don't they accepted all of my courses but competition is very high. Anyway I am like you I am tired of waiting, I went this past summer and WCU said due to my credits transfer the 1st cohort available is January so I am looking forward to it. I have a friend that use to work for me and she is there plus many more and they say Instructors are good and the Nursing program is good its just expensive and fast pace. Good Luck to you as well and thank you for venting on negative comments!

Wow ...you got all that from my post about being informed about loans....kinda sound like a WCU employee...good luck with all your endeavors

@Theone40

Because you said "...most people..." at least that leads me to believe that you are specifically speaking to people who are uninformed, and change the "most" to "some" and I can agree with you there. However it's still pretty unfair to generalize that "...most people who sign up for WCU do not understand how much..." That's insinuating that "most" people who decide to go to this school aren't intelligent enough to make informed financial decisions and or that they don't know what they're getting into and thus they are somehow getting scammed. As for me personally I am very intelligent and consider myself a very informed person, especially regarding my own personal financial matters, and my BSN program is well under that $140k number, well under the $100k number actually not that it's anyone's business or the point. And that's without any of the scholarships I'm looking into applying for right now. The exact details of my loans situation are of my business and not the point, the point being as long as I know all the details of my loans and my particular situation and I'm personally comfortable with it as well as the repaying of it down the line, why does it matter or of any concern to anyone else? As long as I'm comfortable with and know what I'm getting into, and know I'm getting a legitimate degree (which it is) and even more so a legitimate, awesome, and most rewarding career at the end of the road, who is anyone to judge the paths I choose? Who is anyone to say because they're NOT spending as much money as me or because someone else is choosing to go a route that is more...financially feasible or more financially eye appealing, that their route is better than mine or that their program is better? Or that their degree is better or more real, or that because I'm choosing a private school (who's CCNE & WASC accredited remind you) that it's somehow not as legitimate or that it's a joke? I am not specifically saying that you are saying this, but some do and I just thought I'd address that as well. Who is anyone to try to downgrade or try to belittle the paths I choose? However, if people that are against it and the ones that generalize their hating on in regards to this school if what you're really against is the fact that you don't want people to be naive to the fact, and you want uninformed people to pay attention and become informed and to not go into these schools or this school and this decision light-heartedly, then I can totally get behind you on that. I agree with that completely. Because remember, AllNurses is a place for people who all have one thing in common, we all strive to be an informed group of human beings and we are all striving to be great nurses. We all come to this website either looking to get help or to help others, not to belittle others or belittle others' decisions or the paths or choices other people make. This is a GREAT informational website where people of all backgrounds and all levels of medical knowledge come to give help or advice or get help/advice and or encouragement and that's what it should be and how it should stay. That's what drew me to this website to begin with. Cynicism and downgrading of others or others' choices is completely unnecessary. The fact of the matter is just like with anything super important in life, if you don't do as much research as possible and know as many angles about your decision as possible and or haven't explored all avenues or paths to a desired outcome, then yes at some point certain things could come back to bite you in the rear. That absolutely does not mean that the path for one person is or will be the right path for someone else. Just like just because the path of waiting and lesser expensive may be desired or the "right" path for some of us, and that path may not be what is "right" for others and that in and of itself does not make any of us who choose either-or any better or lesser of people, or nurses, (in this world) because of it. Again, best of luck to all!

Specializes in Emergency, Med-Surg, Progressive Care.

The private status of any university isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's the schools that are for-profit institutions. You must understand that the students are not the school's customers, their primary concern is generating profit and distributing dividends to their stakeholders. Many of these schools have an admissions process that goes a bit like this:

1. Inhale

2. Exhale

3. Sign up for a $40,000 Sallie Mae loan

Be careful out there.

Specializes in PEDI HOME HEALTH LVN.
There are so many people that have their own opinions about everything. And we do live in the country of free speech so that's cool. I just personally don't like the super discouraging people, it's unnecessary in my opinion. Negativity breeds negativity and then no matter what's going on in life you will never be fully happy. I tend to listen and hear what they have to say but I live life on my own terms. And I've said this before and I'll say it again, people can say whatever they want to say about whatever program they want, but the bottom line is that you get out of it what you put into it. That's pretty much any school and any program. I personally know at least 7 RNs, my wife included also graduated from the Ontario campus and now works at Loma Linda University, that I can think of off the top of my head that have graduated from WCU that are all awesome nurses, that got jobs right away, with great careers at great hospitals or with great companies; from Methodist Hospital, to UCLA, to Loma Linda University, to Scripps. It's about what you put into it and what you take from it. After years (about 4 actually) of working while I took my prerequisites and doing general ed and applying to programs I just no longer at my age have the luxury of waiting. I don't have the best grades but not the most competitive either at 3.2. But I have friends right now that have been waiting literally for years on waiting lists, and/or are still waiting just to get into certain prerequisite classes. I have two friends, both of whom have 4.0's that have been waiting to get into programs for about a year and a half to two years. 3+ years for a few of my friends. Meanwhile no matter what some of the negative Nancy's say, if you truly want to and plan on being an RN you are losing money by not being in school and thus eventually not working as an RN. Yes you are losing money by not working because the time you are still waiting to get into a program is the time someone else will be finished with their program and eventually working while you're either still waiting or just starting a program. Now if you are going to this school as a trial and error or you are not 100% sure about this type of career then I would highly suggest trying another path or taking classes at a cc first. As for everything else yes it is WASC and CCNE accredited and I personally will be getting my bachelors degree. I am pumped about that! I am not ashamed nor will I listen to nay sayers. There is not one BSN program out there that is not hard. Take it all in as you will. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and it's my opinion that I will be an RN, and or will be using my RN license in my career, for the rest of my career so I would rather get started in my program and get to working as a nurse and eventually get to paying my student loans rather than not and stay waiting. Study hard, keep the faith, good luck to everyone either in programs, going into programs, or nurses currently working. And always remember what you got into this line of work for in the first place. That might help you in negative or down times.[/quote']

I'm so greatful for ur post, I will definitely keep this in mind. so helpful :)

Specializes in Emergency, Trauma, Critical Care.

Just to give someone an idea of payback on one 35k private sallie mae loan that was deferred for 2 years: Interested increased loan to 45k in 2 years! (that's 5k a year in just interest!). My payments are 450/month for 15 years. Yes, manageable if you get a job as an RN. Many people have had difficulty getting a job as a nurse after graduation, especially in California. I also unfortunately have federal loans, which are about half of the private loan payment. My husband and I struggled for years, as he was unemployed. I was lucky enough to relocate to a better paying area and am no longer struggling. I just want people to be aware of how expensive those loans can be. I think those that are single, and can work a lot of overtime to pay them off will do far better than those who have families, car loans or other debt, and don't have back up plans for loans. It's not bad vs good, it's what is practical for you.

I don't regret going the private school-private loan route, because it worked for me, but it was definitely a rough struggle at first.

Specializes in Pediatric ICU.
Just to give someone an idea of payback on one 35k private sallie mae loan that was deferred for 2 years: Interested increased loan to 45k in 2 years! (that's 5k a year in just interest!). My payments are 450/month for 15 years. Yes manageable if you get a job as an RN. Many people have had difficulty getting a job as a nurse after graduation, especially in California. I also unfortunately have federal loans, which are about half of the private loan payment. My husband and I struggled for years, as he was unemployed. I was lucky enough to relocate to a better paying area and am no longer struggling. I just want people to be aware of how expensive those loans can be. I think those that are single, and can work a lot of overtime to pay them off will do far better than those who have families, car loans or other debt, and don't have back up plans for loans. It's not bad vs good, it's what is practical for you. I don't regret going the private school-private loan route, because it worked for me, but it was definitely a rough struggle at first.[/quote']. @NickiLaughs, yes I totally agree with you. It is definitely about what is practical for the individual person. Thank you for that.

The student loan rule of thumb is the total student loan amount should be less than one year's anticipated salary. Owing 3.5years is nuts!

Don't forget you have to pay taxes and social security on income and the loan amount grows due to interest. That's why the bankers have the pile of money and everyone else struggles to pay off debt.

And I should add several years back the law changed. You no longer can default on student loans. The banks legally can and will garnish wages for the rest of your life. Choose wisely.

Just to give someone an idea of payback on one 35k private sallie mae loan that was deferred for 2 years: Interested increased loan to 45k in 2 years! (that's 5k a year in just interest!). My payments are 450/month for 15 years. Yes, manageable if you get a job as an RN. Many people have had difficulty getting a job as a nurse after graduation, especially in California. I also unfortunately have federal loans, which are about half of the private loan payment. My husband and I struggled for years, as he was unemployed. I was lucky enough to relocate to a better paying area and am no longer struggling. I just want people to be aware of how expensive those loans can be. I think those that are single, and can work a lot of overtime to pay them off will do far better than those who have families, car loans or other debt, and don't have back up plans for loans. It's not bad vs good, it's what is practical for you.

I don't regret going the private school-private loan route, because it worked for me, but it was definitely a rough struggle at first.

Yeah, loans are financial tools. I think some people 'leap before the look' but as part of comprehensive plan, loans can be useful.

I'm glad yours worked out well :-}

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