California Board of Nursing: you do not meet the requirements for licensure. Why?

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Hi beautiful people,

I applied to CaBoN about 2 months ago from Ukraine. I hold a local license here.

Just received this mail from California Board of Nursing:

“The Board of Registered Nursing has completed the evaluation of your application. Based on the documents that were submitted, it has been determined that the vocational nurse program you completed in your country does not meet the requirements for licensure as a Registered Nurse in California.

When you have completed an approved Registered Nurse program, you will need to reapply to our Board”.

Unfortunately from this mail I don’t understand which exactly courses (or hours) I should pass in order to be qualified. Why they do not tell me that? I sent them an email about 10 days already and I got no reply so far. (I'm aware of their strict communication policy though).

What do you think appropriate to do in this situation? I want to live and work in California.

Many thanks for your help.

What type of visa do you have? You still need to go thru CGFNS for the Visa Screen Certificate as well if you do not have a visa that will permit you to work in the US.

If CA is telling you that your training does not meet their requirements, chances are that you are going to get the same answer from NY.

Just because a student graduated at the same time as you, it does not mean that you had the same courses that they did. And the number of hours that were actually completed.

You were not told that you were missing only one or two classes, but that your training was only equivalent to that of the LVN, big difference with that as well. If just a course or two, they would have told you that.

That two years that is listed for NY is also for US programs, there are additional requirements for the foreign-trained nurse and what your title was in your country as well as a nurse and how it was recognized there.

that's strange. I was educated in Poland and California and New Hampshire approved my education...

keep asking them why.

Unless you are an RN who is educated at the baccalaureate level (bachelor of science in nursing), you will not meet the requirements for licensure from the California BRN (Board of Registered Nursing). Local LPN/LVN programs in Ukraine are not accepted for immigration purposes into the US.

This is not true. I am not BSN just RN and got approved by CA board of nursing in 2004

RNs can be licensed without having to have the BSN, depends on the country of training and the degrees that they have there. Many in Europe and Eastern Europe are not BSN programs and they are accepted here.

The Philippines only accepts the BSN for licensure in that country, so that is why they are required to have the BSN. Canadians do not need the BSN for licensure in the US either.

Depends on the courses that were completed and again where the training was done.

Thanks, everybody, for your great and detailed answers.

Cannot sleep already for many nights trying to understand what to do.

As I just found out, my school sent these hours in the BREAKDOWN OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM FOR INTERNATIONAL NURSING PROGRAMS.

Do you think these hoursare really not enough to meet educational requirements of the California Board?

********************************* THEORY Hours *** PRACTICE Hours

ANATOMY & PHYSIOLOGY 157 *** 86

MICROBIOLOGY 36 *** 18

MEDICAL NURSING 182 *** 196

SURGICAL NURSING 113 *** 130

OBSTETRIC NURSING 41 *** 40

PEDIATRIC NURSING 111 *** 132

PSYCHIATRIC NURSING 30 *** 24

Please those who applied to Ca Board and passed, share your hours you have in the BREAKDOWN form or in your diploma.

Thanks so much.

PS Suzanne, I know that CA for initial licensure is not a bad of roses and am aware of the retrogression issue.

Psych and maternal nursing are definitely not enough hours in both clinical and theory.

The other totals are low as well, they do not come close to the required hours for the RN license for the US.

They are off by at least a year of hours, that is why CA gave you the answer that they did.

Best of luck to you, but these hours listed will not meet RN requirements for any state or to get the VSC from CGFNS/ICHP.

Guys, but in the Application they tell that

Your education must meet the requirements for California licensure.
If any deficiencies are identified, you must complete an approved course(s) prior to being found eligible for the examination.

APPLICANTS EDUCATED OUTSIDE THE U.S.

http://www.rn.ca.gov/pdfs/applicants/exam-app.pdf

Which from my understanding means the CA Board should explain what needs to be done, i.e. courses or hours, to be eligible for the examination. But not just general statement: you're not qualified.

http://academic.venturacollege.edu/smelton/healthsci/pdfs/Nurse%20Practice%20Act.pdf

My understanding per this document is that is the applicant's duty to prove enough clinical hours.

You could find out the hours by going to a law library and looking at Califonia law or go to the NLN page and purchase a book on approve courses for NLN approval

I know in my state of MA, you barely have one semester's worth of Medical Surgical nursing and this is for the LPN program, we meet 16 hours a week for 14 weeks- and medical surgical nursing is three semesters. My state is very strict with students having to make up clinical hours.

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From the hours you posted they look about equavelent to what I did in my 13mo LVN program.

you clinical related experience is only 650+ hours. im from philippines i applied my eligbility for california 2005 i had 2142 clinical hours, thats the total for all the area, i dont have the breakdown. it seems that you realy need to take some more hours.

It is not going to be a point of more hours, but an entire program, at least for the LPN to RN once you have obtained the LPN/LVN license.

There is no other way to do it, it is not going to be a couple of classes, or they would have stated so on your letter.

Best of luck to you.

If considering MEDICAL NURSING, apart from SURGICAL NURSING, PEDIATRIC NURSING etc. (as in the Breakdown form), the following courses are subdivisions of Medical Nursing?

Fundamentals, Dermatology, Therapy, Genecology, Neurology, Infections, Ophthalmology, Otolaryngology, family nursing.

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