CA BRN New Requirements For NCLEX RN international students

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I had already registered online in Pearson Vue but I think I'm not yet eligible to take the test. Is there an expiration date for my registration at PV?

I received a letter from CA BON requesting for new requirements such as:

  1. SS number
  2. Local license in the Philippines
  3. Copy of ur clinical rotation schedule for your cases: Assisted/Actual deliveries, cord dressing, and major/minor surgeries
  4. A complete school curriculum hundred pages or more sent directly from ur nursing school to the board. (the board doesn't accept the condensed version of the curriculum
  5. A one-page curriculum outline and academic calendar.

Fortunately, I had the first 2 requirements but I am worried that the last 3 will take time to be accomplished.

I am wondering if it's just me who have this requirement. Most of NCLEX passers I know weren't required on those listed above. It's really hard to focus on review while your thinking of this :uhoh3:

License by reciprocity = license by endorsement.

https://allnurses.com/nurse-registration/endorsement-back-into-746541.html

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Specializes in Emergency Department.

For California, "license by reciprocity" = "license by endorsement" and in any case, California will do their own assessment and determine whether you meet the requirements. If you do, great! If not, find out why not and try to find a way to correct any identified deficiencies. California's process isn't exactly known for blistering speed on approvals... nor have they been lately known for bending the rules. Those rules are what they are, and California will follow those rules until it's told differently.

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Hello colleagues!

My story is i recently passed my NCLEX-RN in Texas but i am currently residing here in California and working as a LVN. I graduated nursing last 2009 from the Philippines and i am completely aware about the situation of all the international applicants doing here in California that is why i ended up taking it in another state. After a rough year of passing 2 NCLEX exams, i'm still stoked about trying to reciprocate my RN here in CA but also afraid that i may end up loosing my time and money instead of really moving to other state. Is there anyone who had some luck in doing reciprocity here?

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Hello colleagues!

My story is i recently passed my NCLEX-RN in Texas but i am currently residing here in California and working as a LVN. I graduated nursing last 2009 from the Philippines and i am completely aware about the situation of all the international applicants doing here in California that is why i ended up taking it in another state. After a rough year of passing 2 NCLEX exams, i'm still stoked about trying to reciprocate my RN here in CA but also afraid that i may end up loosing my time and money instead of really moving to other state. Is there anyone who had some luck in doing reciprocity here?

I suggest look for an RN job in Texas. Don't attempt to endorse your license here in CA coz 99.99% your application will be denied due to concurrency issues. CABON will still re-evaluate your application even you already have your RN license in other state to meet their standards. If you really wanna stay here in CA and you still want to pursue your RN license here. There are two options you can do. Take classes for your deficient units or you can try the LVN-bridge progam.

Im also in the same boat. Had my HI-RN and LVN license in CA.

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Does anyone know what a rle book/logbook is?

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Does anyone know what a rle book/logbook is?

It is a logbook kept by training hospitals in the Philippines at ORs and L&D units where cases are logged. Whenever a student nurse assists with a particular minor or major OR case, assists with or performs a lady partsl delivery, or performs cord care for a delivered baby, it counts as an accomplished case and counts towards clinical cases required by the Philippine BoN to take the licensure exam.

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It is a logbook kept by training hospitals in the Philippines at ORs and L&D units where cases are logged. Whenever a student nurse assists with a particular minor or major OR case, assists with or performs a lady partsl delivery, or performs cord care for a delivered baby, it counts as an accomplished case and counts towards clinical cases required by the Philippine BoN to take the licensure exam.

Oh thank you. I just recently applied for nclex rn and they are asking me to submit a rle logbook.

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Oh thank you. I just recently applied for nclex rn and they are asking me to submit a rle logbook.

They are probably specifically asking for the signed clinical case forms that students applying for Philippine licensure have to furnish to the Philippine BoN. Your clinical cases would be listed on them and would include the signatures of the hospital's chief nurse, instructors, and other officials.

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If your cases are concurrent with the lecture would it be okay to only have 3 or do I need 5. The PRC nowadays only require 3 cases for each clinical area. I got my letter from my international evaluator and he didn't specify how ma h cases he just said provide your clinical cases. So would I be okay to send my 3 cases for each having them concurrent with the lectures?

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If your cases are concurrent with the lecture would it be okay to only have 3 or do I need 5. The PRC nowadays only require 3 cases for each clinical area. I got my letter from my international evaluator and he didn't specify how ma h cases he just said provide your clinical cases. So would I be okay to send my 3 cases for each having them concurrent with the lectures?

If you graduated under the new 3-3-3 section vs the older 5-5-5, then you should be okay assuming that you know 110% for sure that's exactly how you did your cases/clinicals and that's exactly how your transcripts will show as such.

Just know you're not the first one here to ask the same question under the new 3-3-3 at the same time, they too have been denied the ATT as I'm not sure that's how the transcripts are written and thus, reveals it was not 110% completed in the timely manner. Do you know and can state that ALL of your particular situation, NONE of them was done either a week or weeks or a month prior to the class or after the classes were started or done?

This is what has happened to those most recent grads found out, the dates were not actually "concurrent".

Do you know of any more recent applicants from your school, from your same classes, from the same graduation month and year that got their ATT in CA and applied AFTER the Nov. 2011 stricter enforcement time period?

But really, no one here can tell you of the "yea or nea" of your application as each one stands on their own merits and evaluation, the only option is to have whatever your school can provide and hope for the best and then, only the CA BRN has the final word.

There have been a handful of applicants who had no problems (more the exception than the rule) in getting their ATT and recently passed.

The reason for the change to the 3-3-3 from the old 5-5-5 format was that it's impossible to get the two required events to come together.

There's so much mounting pressure on the CHED, PRC and PNA to comply with the CA BRN old 1987 regulations as thousands upon thousands of PH grads and nurses alone applying into CA were just completely left stranded and left to total disappointment and frustrations. We know of the 2013 PH grads, they are still not able to meet the CA BRN concurrency.

The CHED etal needs to reduce the actual schools, drop the student population to about 10-15% of what it is (leaving 80-85% to look into other job careers) and abolish the 3-3-3 cases system all together. It's been a heated topic and still nothing to be changed. Not surprised.

None of the US schools and colleges have this requirement and still more than 80-85% pass the NCLEX-RN for the first time and many never have to take refresher courses or buy more books or enroll in review classes, granted most of them take the NCLEX from almost graduating to within months of graduation while it's fresh in their minds. But it's also because they are taught how to "critical think" while in school.

But the problem is if the PH nursing agencies drops the 3-3-3 to zero, even go to 1-1-1, who's going to deliver the babies and do all the work for FREE?

Ok, off my soapbox again.

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If you graduated under the new 3-3-3 section vs the older 5-5-5, then you should be okay assuming that you know 110% for sure that's exactly how you did your cases/clinicals and that's exactly how your transcripts will show as such.

Just know you're not the first one here to ask the same question under the new 3-3-3 at the same time, they too have been denied the ATT as I'm not sure that's how the transcripts are written and thus, reveals it was not 110% completed in the timely manner. Do you know and can state that ALL of your particular situation, NONE of them was done either a week or weeks or a month prior to the class or after the classes were started or done?

This is what has happened to those most recent grads found out, the dates were not actually "concurrent".

Do you know of any more recent applicants from your school, from your same classes, from the same graduation month and year that got their ATT in CA and applied AFTER the Nov. 2011 stricter enforcement time period?

But really, no one here can tell you of the "yea or nea" of your application as each one stands on their own merits and evaluation, the only option is to have whatever your school can provide and hope for the best and then, only the CA BRN has the final word.

There have been a handful of applicants who had no problems (more the exception than the rule) in getting their ATT and recently passed.

The reason for the change to the 3-3-3 from the old 5-5-5 format was that it's impossible to get the two required events to come together.

There's so much mounting pressure on the CHED, PRC and PNA to comply with the CA BRN old 1987 regulations as thousands upon thousands of PH grads and nurses alone applying into CA were just completely left stranded and left to total disappointment and frustrations. We know of the 2013 PH grads, they are still not able to meet the CA BRN concurrency.

The CHED etal needs to reduce the actual schools, drop the student population to about 10-15% of what it is (leaving 80-85% to look into other job careers) and abolish the 3-3-3 cases system all together. It's been a heated topic and still nothing to be changed. Not surprised.

None of the US schools and colleges have this requirement and still more than 80-85% pass the NCLEX-RN for the first time and many never have to take refresher courses or buy more books or enroll in review classes, granted most of them take the NCLEX from almost graduating to within months of graduation while it's fresh in their minds. But it's also because they are taught how to "critical think" while in school.

But the problem is if the PH nursing agencies drops the 3-3-3 to zero, even go to 1-1-1, who's going to deliver the babies and do all the work for FREE?

Ok, off my soapbox again.

Thank you for replying! I'm sure that they are concurrent with the lectures, but I'm just worried that they want more than 3 cases because a lot of my classmates did 5 just to be sure and I wasn't informed. The evaulator didn't specify an amount of cases too so it makes it even more confusing for me if I should risk having the school send the cases of 3 each. Do you know of anyone who gave 333 cases and they were concurrent, did they get approved by the CaBRN?

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Thank you for replying! I'm sure that they are concurrent with the lectures, but I'm just worried that they want more than 3 cases because a lot of my classmates did 5 just to be sure and I wasn't informed. The evaulator didn't specify an amount of cases too so it makes it even more confusing for me if I should risk having the school send the cases of 3 each. Do you know of anyone who gave 333 cases and they were concurrent, did they get approved by the CaBRN?

I personally don't know of a person with the 3-3-3 cases and getting approved, just from what was mentioned about their situation here.

The evaluator will not know nor care how many cases are needed, what's the important factor is what does your school require? As everything must match up perfectly to be concurrent.

For those doing the 5-5-5 cases, if it's more than required, so be it, but it also means there's a increased chance maybe just one of them doesn't meet the concurrency rules and then, it's game over (either temporarily or for good, depending if they are declared deficient but able to re-take the deficient course to make up or simply can not complete their application due to the 3 year limitation ran out or went out of state or gave up and moved on to another career).

Of your classmates, have they applied into CA or what's their deal to take up to the 5 cases and where do they stand today?

Are you a recent grad?

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