But they are advertising again.....

suzanne4, RN · Nov 28, 2008

You are so very correct. And this wonderful facility has their head you know where. Anticipating that the retrogression is going to end soon? Guess that they do not understand anything about it and most certainly the attorney that is advising them does not either.

sasi · Nov 29, 2008

You are so very correct. And this wonderful facility has their head you know where. Anticipating that the retrogression is going to end soon? Guess that they do not understand anything about it and most certainly the attorney that is advising them does not either.

I strongly believe that it's up to the individual potential applicants to document themselves, and learn everything thats related to nursing and immigration in the US. There are so many resources for information that potential nurses/student nurses if they do what they should in time, should not be surprised... honestly...

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN · Nov 29, 2008

I see many false advertisements every day, take this pill and it will cure cancer, apply this lotion and bald men can grow hair, I could go on and on. My point is that you can't believe everything that is advertised.

Pediatric Critical Care Columnist · Nov 29, 2008

Let's not forget that advertising in most magazines or journals is actually submitted months before the publication hits the street. These ads might have been submitted for publication as far back as April. Things were tight then, but not as tight as they've gotten in recent weeks. And of course the events of the last few days in India and Thailand are only going to make it all worse.

suzanne4, RN · Nov 29, 2008

Even with that being said, knowing that the retrogression has been in place for more than two years now and knowing well that it is not going to end any time soon. Why in the world does a facility need to go out of the country to try to bring nurses over to the US when for the past year or so there have been so many new grads posting that they have been unable to find jobs where they are.

Even if there is no retrogression, it is still usually close to two years before they can bring a nurse over. Unless conditions are that bad there that no American wishes to work there would be the number one item on my list.

lost_stranger · Nov 29, 2008

And of course the events of the last few days in India and Thailand are only going to make it all worse.

How is this related to retrogression?

suzanne4, RN · Nov 29, 2008

It will directly influence things, as it has in the past. Checks are going to be much more thorough as a start before anyone is going to be issued a visa for the US.

Not as much with Thailand as what is going on there is to get rid of the government that has been quite corrupt for sometime, nothing about terrorist activities.

But when the happenings that are going on right now in Mumbai, things are going to be very tight all over the world, especially for those that need to get actual visas for a country. And then add in to the problem is that at least two of the terrorists were holding British passports, so that is becoming one of the most worrisome things and why they suspect that things were as planned as they were, they did not cause any alarms or suspicions to be raised. With the UK passports, they get visa waivers in most countries for travel, so expect things to be seriosly looked at all over.

This will affect retrogression, but then also the shear increase in the number of applicants for the green card also directly affects things as well.

They are all tied directly or indirectly into each other.

prinsesatna · Nov 30, 2008

Got my RCN bulletin today, and I had to rub my eyes....they are advertising again for jobs in the US. Large hospital from North Carolina is recruiting now "in Anticipation of Retrogression Ending".
I wonder where they get their information from??
Last time I contacted one of those agencies (since I'm curious) and found out they are actually offering the H1B visa, hmm and Greencard later...
when did u actually contacted them,just curious.is it after you read the article?

5cats · Nov 30, 2008

about a month ago, different ad, similar context

5cats

suzanne4, RN · Dec 1, 2008

Any employer can pay for whatever ads that they want to, but the issue is that they do not issue visas, only the US government does and we are under a retrogression here for a start and it has been in place for over two years now. Even if one gets permission to sit for the NCLEX after going thru the licensing process with a specific state, they still need to go thru immigration processing and that is where the major problem is.

And that is after making sure that one is not short hours in the requires subjects for the US, as well as Canada. They classess need to be included in the transcripts first of all.

Without the green card being available, there are few facilities that are able to hire under the H1-B classification, but it most definite not widely done in the US. Biggest problem then is that the H1-B requires at least a four year nurse's training that would be equal to the BSN that we have in the US and most UK training is three years in length so that takes one out of the running.

Sure, these ads were probably submitted months and months ago, but that was also before the economy all over went down the tubes. With nurses being unemployed in the US, it is quite hard for a facility to prove that they cannot get an American for the job.

Look at what is happening in the UK right now with their hiring freeze, you can look at it similarly in the US. When there are lay-offs or hiring freezes even for the local nurses going on, then it is even more difficult to bring in someone from another country.