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Hello everyone!! I have been doing my support courses for the last year and a half and I'm going to apply for the nursing program at Brookhaven this month. Though I'm not really stressing about it I am a little worried. This is my 3rd attempt at college and the first 2 times I did horrible!! Since I made the choice to go to nursing school in Summer of 2009, I've brought my GPA up from 1.76 to 3.0. And, all my grades in my support classes have been A's and B's except 1, Nursing Pathophysiology. I made a C in that class and it would have been a B if I had not made one mistake at the end of the course. So, my question is does anyone think that C in that class will hinder me much? If anyone can offer any insight it would be great. Thanks!!

Specializes in home health- pediatrics.

Ashlee, it would behoove you to complete as many support courses s possible prior to starting the program, so that you can focus on the nursing content. If you had to take a support course during the program, EOL is probably the best to take. It isn't a hard class at all. Their is a small reading assignment, and a few writing assignments, but are mostly reflections. You also have to do some hospice hours. There was also a partners project. Some people consider it a snoozer class, but the content is important in your nursing career and persona. Dosage calc. is super easy, and I took it last summer. We didn't even have to come the second day if we did well with the first day's content, and on the first couple of quizzes/ tests (that are on your own time). Make sure you have this class before second semester, because you will learn IV starts and will be expected to figure the dosages and rates. Support classes always will up prior to general registration- that's one benefit to being a continuing student! make sure the classes you are interested in are in your electronic "planned schedule", so you can monitor how many seats open up. Stuff happens, like scheduling conflicts, or acceptance to other programs, etc.

Hobbits- you seem like quite the technological person! Technology is great, but try to give some of it up. Nooks/e-readers are frowned upon(though not forbidden YET) and viewed as laptops, especially since some can get internet on them. Can you imagine being an instructor and seeing a student looking at their Nook, not knowing what they are looking at? It can be taken the wrong way. If you are the type of person who learns best with technology and needs a special "disability" waiver, you can coordiate that with the school, but we all used our text books and powerpoint notes. As for the tape recording, you will have to ask your instructor how they feel about it. Some instructors flat out say no, while others embrace it. For your foundations class, I doubt you will need it. Mrs. Routh teaches it currently and uses Tegrity, an audio recording that also records the powerpoint slides, and posts it to ecampus. You can even load those presentations to your smartphone! You will be able to view the slides as she goes along, with commentary. It even records the class audio so you can hear questions and answers, as well as remarks and jokes ;) . As for audio recording of skills, you should ask the instructors. I don't think that you will need to record, because it is mainly demonstrations and practice time, which is NOT ALLOWED to be video recorded, so you better take notes and ask questions. Before clinicals you will have 11 hours of lab time scheduled each week, plus an open lab to practice freely. Don't stress or worry! You will find that it is a very natural learning environment that integrates hands on and text curriculum. You can buy e-books or hardcover, and that choice really depends on what type of learner you are. I STRONGLY SUGGEST having the hard text, and I'm willing to bet that it is required. There are many days where you will be required to bring your books to class, and instructors will chastise you for not having it to follow along with at times. There are also beneficial "vignettes" (examples in the margins of the books) that will be referenced, and since you won't be using technology in the classroom, the hard text is a nobrainer. I never found much benefit to e-books, because I like the physical act of highlighting and post-it noting my pages, etc. We did however have a presentation from an Elsevier representative (who tries to talk you into buying the book package or online access), who made some good points for me. The e-books can be digitally highlighted and post-it noted, and you can take notes in the margins. In addition, YOU CAN SHARE YOUR NOTES with other classmates who you "network" with among the Elsevier software. For example, you can highlight an annotate pages and make them visible to your friends, and what's more- you can authorize them to do the same on that document, so your group projects can be collaborated on digitally. Some people simply learn better with e-books. As a reminder- the textbook package this year came with e-bok versions of the support courses, which would have come in handy for me. I rented and borrowed a few of my support course books and didn't have them when I needed them this semester! I have gotten what I needed from the hard text, but you may not want to lug around 40 lbs of books to Starbucks of the library or wherever you chose to study. Personal preference!

As for the daily attire- you will need to confirm for your semester, but for our pre-clinical days (which is an 8 our skills learning and practice day every week prior to clinicals), and for skills lab days (a separate 3 hour lab), you will wear scrubs of your choice. This is new, as previous semesters were either required to wear their green scrubs, or come in casual clothing. This was exciting because we really got to express our personalities and start finding which scrubs fit us best. You will always wear the Green Uniform scrubs on days you check off on skills for pre-clinical or skills lab, and when you are attending your clinicals. When you go to the hospital the day before clinical you can either wear your green scrubs, or professional business attire. Your individual clinical coordinator will tell you what they want you to wear to your hospital orientation. Mine was scrubs or business attire and one student was kicked out of orientation by our faculty for wearing jeans. So this week on Mondays (clinicals) I wore my green scrubs, Tuesdays (skills) I wore whatever scrubs I wanted, and Wednesdays (lecture) I wore my favorite everyday clothes! I suggest having at least 2 pairs of green scrubs, maybe 3. You will also be given the option to purchase a lab coat that will have to be embroidered, though it may be mandatory for your group. Those can be worn to clinicals to keep you warm if needed. You look like a doctor wearing it!

Lecture will contain all 60 o fyou in the auditorium-type classroom in the X building. As for skills lab, they will likely split you into two or three groups, at different times, possibly different days. There are two labs to practice on that typically hold 20-30 students. Currently for my class of 40, we have half go in the morning, and half in the afternoon on one day. Your skills group will be determined by who you chose/get stuck with for clinical. They go hand in hand, so your schedule should be flexible! Not sure how they will do it with a large group like yours. Clinical groups will be 10 each- you will have 6 instructors. Multiple groups could be on different floors at the same hospital, or you could all be slit up at different ones. For example, this semester (my class of 40) had each group at a different hospital. This summer all 40 of us will be at one hospital (different floors, of course!). I'm sure it will depend on how many clinical sites the school contracts with. The people you have clinical with will be the people you go to skills and pre-clinical with, so you will get to know half the class pretty well. The other half you don't see until lecture day practically!

As for cell phones, if you are caught using one in class you will probably be asked to leave. Your grade could also suffer. You are only allowed one unexcused absence for the entire program, and must have a good, valid reason to miss more. Getting dismissed from class for cell phone infraction, or sent home from clinical for whatever reason counts as that absence. If it accidentally goes off in class, they usually don't make a big deal about it unless it is a repeat offense. Be responsible and prepared- put your phone on silent prior to class. It bugs me to freaking death when I even hear people's phones vibrating, and I'm sure the instructor feels the same way. How rude. One person in my class plays games and texts all the time, and the instructor has told me that she sees it, though that student doesn't realize it. Honestly, you need to be focusing your attention 100% on the content, because it is fast paced and very important. And those of you who are straight a, never made a B or C in my life students have another thing coming! The foundations tests are unlike anything I have ever taken, and all the 4.0 students have made at least a B on a test or two. Sorry to go on a tangent, not sure what you were aiming at asking about cell phones. Just be responsible and respectful, and you will be alright. Some instructors understand that yo may be waiting on or needing to take a call, and ask that you step out.

Specializes in home health- pediatrics.

I shouldn't have been so harsh about the cell phone thing- you may not be asked to leave, but instructors have no problem calling you out on it and humiliting you in front of the class. One instructor I had called a student out without even pausing her lecture content- it took me a minute to realize that she had shifted her focus to him. She asked him what was so important that he couldn't wait, and asked him to share his conversation. She told him to bring the phone to the front of the class, or turn it off and put it away! Then she continued on with her lecture, lol.:eek:

Wow, thank you for going into so much detail on my questions!!! Yes I am very technical, I love gagets. I stay organized on my computer and normaly dont bring anything to class exept my laptop and phone where I take pictures and upload them through bluetooth. I also use my nook for reading lol because it is so little, and I can search words and I even read faster on it. However if you think the teachers may have a problem with it I wont bring them and will focus on doing things the way that makes them happy. I can do it the pen paper way :) So this brings me to more questions:

1. How do you take all those books with you to class every day? Does all that fit in a backpack? O.o

2. Are there lots of group projects?

3. What are some MAJOR dont do's that you have seen?

4. What do u think the key points are to passing with as high a grade possible?

5. What time does class normaly start and whats the parking like?

6. How come I NEVER saw a Brookhaven RN student in green the entire time I was taking classes there!?!? lol Do they hide you?

Specializes in home health- pediatrics.

Whew, you have many questions! I will be abit shorter with these; I am working on a major project, and want to leave some mystery for you!

1. You won't have to take all those books with you each day, but many people did invest in rolling backpacks or used a carry on suitcase, lol. I ended up having different backpacks/bags for each class so I didn't have to lug more than I needed to. I bought one of these baskets ( http://www.sterilite.com/SelectProduct.html?id=359&ProductCategory=191&section=1 ) to keep in my trunk with all my extra textbooks and supplies, just in case I needed them, which occasionally happens.

2. I have not had one group project, but two major projects that are done individually- most recently a Major Care Plan which is like a 25-40 page research paper.

3. Some major don'ts are: DON'T come unprepared for class or clinical. Have your assignments and reading done- there are quizzes frequently, and if you come unprepared for clinical you will be sent home. You also drag the rest of the group down and make some instructors mad. Being "unprepared" doesn't mean coming perfect- you will grow and perfect your work each week, but if you don't try or put in an effort, it is obvious. Also, don't bring drama into the classroom- one of my classmates was actually dismissed from the program for it.

4. The key points to passing with a high grade are prepare, and STUDY STUDY STUDY. Utilize all your resources- not just straight reading from the book. You will have access to case studies, and those are the key to doing well on the foundations test. Also, practice your skills and get them right. I never really had to study before now- I could skim content and put it off to the last minute, because I absorbed info in lecture. This is different- you have to learn how to answer these kinds of questions.

5. Classes start between 8 and 9 am, some are at 1 pm. Parking is a big problem all of those times. If you arrive around 7:30 you should have a spot near the door. By 8:15 you have to park all the way down by the field, and by 8:45 you won't find a spot to park by the X building. You will have to go to another lot and walk. If you leave for lunch which is an hour, you will have to come back early to find a spot or have time to walk. Consider carpooling.

6. You never saw us in green because green is camouflaging! Well seriously, it's probably because on the days we are required to wear green, we are checking off on a skill, and they shut the doors to the skills lab wing. We are usually tucked back there, or you were too late in the day. But I bet if you look for us again, you will see us!

sweetpea has it right, the tests are rough, they told us in success camp, "you are all probably A students to have even got accepted, but get it settled right now that you probably won't be anymore". I was thinking, yeah right, I'll be the first one then. But they were serious...... I have never in my life had to use six books to study for one test. For example, this week we have test 4, to prepare I used the foundations book, the patho book, the pharm book, a nursing drug book, a care plan book and a med-surg book. This doesn't include the extra books I have to practice the NCLEX style questions (which are a bear) and the online case studies sweetpea talked about. I will probably make a B and be happy that I didn't fail! haha, it's a total change in thinking and you never really know how the information is going to be thrown at you. But we have a saying... "a C is still a degree" and that is the important thing to remember!

Specializes in home health- pediatrics.

Ktosch, have you finished your MCP?

sweetpea- sure have, turned it in two weeks ago. (I wanted to get it out of the way) I still need to do the teaching plan though, I present that on Monday. Eek.

Thanks again Sweetpea and ktosch for your very helpful info. I know I am asking a lot, and I can not express how thankful I am that you are spending your time to help us. I'm so scared, I am not a great test taker :( the only reason I got an A on the Hesi was cause I studied for 3 weeks. I did learn how to study to do well in A&P and I am getting better but RN school... wow. My friend thats in the BSRN program at UTA said that its soo hard, she is almost failing every semester but some how is able to get by. That much stress... *sigh* but I guess it has to be this way because peoples lives will be in our hands. My goal is to not be at the point where a few points wont fail me, I am hoping for a B or whatever I need so I can sleep without constant fear of failure.

Tell me what you think of this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Livescribe+-+Livescribe+4GB+Echo+SmartPen/9985845.p?id=1218205764398&skuId=9985845

Its old school and yet I can go home and upload my notes and work from my computer to study which would really help me a lot since I am so digital. I read some awesome reviews about it and was written by an actual nursing student who said it did give her a better way to stay organized. I am worried the teachers may not like it, but I dont always have to use the recorder if they say no.

*Questions* (I know Im asking a lot, Ill try to tone it down ;))

1. Will there be enough time to prepare for exams with class, clinicals, and papers due all the time? :crying2:

2. How much of that basement/cave thing is dedicated to the nursing program? Seems like it's all under lock and key.

3. Im not sure how long the program is or when we graduate. Do you know when? We start Aug/Sep? 2011.

Specializes in home health- pediatrics.
Thanks again Sweetpea and ktosch for your very helpful info. I know I am asking a lot, and I can not express how thankful I am that you are spending your time to help us. I'm so scared, I am not a great test taker :( the only reason I got an A on the Hesi was cause I studied for 3 weeks. I did learn how to study to do well in A&P and I am getting better but RN school... wow. My friend thats in the BSRN program at UTA said that its soo hard, she is almost failing every semester but some how is able to get by. That much stress... *sigh* but I guess it has to be this way because peoples lives will be in our hands. My goal is to not be at the point where a few points wont fail me, I am hoping for a B or whatever I need so I can sleep without constant fear of failure.

Tell me what you think of this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Livescribe+-+Livescribe+4GB+Echo+SmartPen/9985845.p?id=1218205764398&skuId=9985845

Its old school and yet I can go home and upload my notes and work from my computer to study which would really help me a lot since I am so digital. I read some awesome reviews about it and was written by an actual nursing student who said it did give her a better way to stay organized. I am worried the teachers may not like it, but I dont always have to use the recorder if they say no.

*Questions* (I know Im asking a lot, Ill try to tone it down ;))

1. Will there be enough time to prepare for exams with class, clinicals, and papers due all the time? :crying2:

2. How much of that basement/cave thing is dedicated to the nursing program? Seems like it's all under lock and key.

3. Im not sure how long the program is or when we graduate. Do you know when? We start Aug/Sep? 2011.

That pen looks like a great alternative to a laptop for you! I don't see the faculty having any issues.

Don't be worried about making bad grades. You may have to adjust your goals for yourself once you start the program- don't hold yourself to anything right now, until you get into the class and know how it runs. Some people have a harder time and feel the content is harder than others do, which could be the case for your friend. I have a friend in the same position and sometimes I don't see where she has trouble. Other times, she breezes through the stuff that I am stuck on. You will have enough time to do everything, if you organize well. Understand what you are doing so you are not stuck spending all your time on one thing. There will be a few nights where you go to bed extra late to finish studying for something, and your social life will slowly go out the window, because where you used to go out to eat, you will chose to stay home and have a "working dinner" ;). As for the basement/cave thing, not sure what you mean. The building is kindof split level, so I think you are referring to the first floor. If so, about half of it is for Nursing, half is for EMS/Paramedic. You will see them a lot in the halls. Our labs are completely separate though. The other floors of the building are for chem, radiology, etc. And the program is 16 months- your third semester will be jam packed into next summer, and you will graduate December of 2012! Less than two years from now!

Hobbits, thank you for asking such informative questions! I feel like I am learning already!! And Sweatpea...you are truly an angel from heaven! Thank you, thank you:redpinkhe for all the detailed answers to all of our questions. Everyone has been so generous with sharing there personal experiences and giving advice. Hope to meet you all in the Fall! Now, how in the world do you have time to post all of your lengthy wonderful answers?

Have a wonderful day everyone and keep doing a rain dance so we can get the wildfires under control! Of course, this rain has cut into my tennis playing!!

Thanks again sweetpea! I can take a deep breath for now. I am currently in A&P 2 at collin college because scit A&P didnt transfer and I needed a backup school. I will finish and start studying for Pharm and Patho because I am very rusty. I had some classes in the X building and always wondered what part was for nursing. I didnt go down stairs much.

Questions:

1. What subjects are most challenging for your class and what class takes up most of your studying time?

2. During clinicals what is most challenging? (I am afraid of knowing all the drugs)

3. How involved are you during clinicals, do you watch mostly or actualy help with drugs/shots and charting?

Specializes in NICU Nurse.

Wow so much amazing questions (even some that I was curious about!)!! Thanks Sweetpea and ktosch for answering these questions for Hobbit and for all of us too :)

I walk through the 1st floor everyday and I always see you nursing students running around and I am so envious! I can't wait to be in the program :)

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