when a boxer is cut

CT Pixie, BSN, RN · Apr 5, 2008

this might help some: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/Cut_man

oramar · Apr 5, 2008

This brings up something that is bothering me lately. Do you see all those extreme fight shows on the cable channels? I think there is a great possiblity of catching something from exposure to blood during the matches. Anyone who engages in that sort of thing is mad.

allnurses Guide · Apr 5, 2008

This brings up something that is bothering me lately. Do you see all those extreme fight shows on the cable channels? I think there is a great possiblity of catching something from exposure to blood during the matches. Anyone who engages in that sort of thing is mad.

I agree . . . . there are groups around the country for KIDS now. :nono:

My 23 year old son watches this crap - of course he has to listen to his mom complain about the violence. He says "it is safer than boxing" . . . . . uh, I don't care if that IS true . . it looks barbaric and violent to have someone on the ground and pummeling them with blood all over the floor.

steph

onyx77 · Apr 5, 2008

I could never stand to watch boxing and other fighting until my son started karate. I then realized that there is SO much skill that goes into the fighting. I still can't stand boxing, but I have found that I enjoy watching the UFC and other mixed martial arts fighting. I have often thought about the role of the "cut man" myself. The one thing that I absolutely can NOT stand is when a fighter gets cut and they have blood dripping on the other fighter. Better yet, when you can count a pulse by the pulsating squirts that come from the head! I just have a hardtime believing that they don't stop the fight there - at least to stop the bleeding. (well, sometimes they do, but not very often!) I always ask my husband at that point how many of these fighters have some bloodbourn disease like AIDS or something. You would think that maybe they have some type of testing for theses things - I don't know. Just my two cents worth!

Dixielee, BSN, RN · Apr 5, 2008

I thought you were asking about what happens when a boxer dog was being neutered! You can see what my life revolves around! Love my little dogs....boxing, not so much! :lol2:

allnurses Guide · Apr 5, 2008

I thought you were asking about what happens when a boxer dog was being neutered! You can see what my life revolves around! Love my little dogs....boxing, not so much!

Me too . . .my first thought was about dogs.

I thought about a Boxer getting his tail cut . . .my son has a Boxer and I think it is mean to cut their tails off . . . or ears on Dobermans.

steph

Agnus · Apr 5, 2008

Thanks CT Pixie for the link. I knew they use (showed this in Rocky as well) several meds to deal with bleeding but did not know what they were. I was hoping some one would cover this and you came through.

I am still wondering about when (I think his name was) Mick cut the eye lid so he could open it. Mick and the manage did not want to do it. But Rocky insisted. I can understand why anyone would not want to cut someone's eyelid.

He did though which enabled him to open it. Can anyone explain how this works? Was it because it instantly reduced the swelling or is something else going on physiologically? Are there nurses who can set aside their personal views on boxing long enough to help a fellow nurse figure this out? Thanks

CT Pixie, BSN, RN · Apr 5, 2008

Me too . . .my first thought was about dogs.
I thought about a Boxer getting his tail cut . . .my son has a Boxer and I think it is mean to cut their tails off . . . or ears on Dobermans.
steph

I currently have two boxers (dogs :chuckle) and both have their tails docked and their dew claws removed. I previously had another boxer and she, too, had her tail docked and dew claws removed.

Tail docking is done a few days after birth. According to vets I've talked with and information written about it, pups are born with immature nervous systems, their Nervous system at birth is not even fully developed and they don't experience pain they way an older pup would. Docking is done usually before the pup is 5 days old. After that time, their nervous systems are rapidly developing and pain would be an issue. That's why any ethical breeder or vet would not dock the tail of a pup older than 4 or 5 days old. Many pups have their tails docked when they are asleep and they don't even flinch, let alone wake up. The same thing goes for cutting their dew claws, they don't feel it. It can somewhat be compaired to a newborn baby having their umbilical cord cut, they don't feel it.

Any pup getting the tail docked after that window of time is considered getting an amputation of the tail and vets (ethical, good, caring ones) won't do it. Unless, there is injury and trauma to the tail and it needs to be removed for the betterment of the pup/dogs health.

Cropping the ears IS another story. It is painful to the dog, since they are much older and their nervous systems are fully developed at that time. None of my Boxers have ever had their ears cropped. I love the look of a cropped ear on a boxer dog, but I never had the heart to do it to my "babies" Besides, their floppy, big uncropped ears are to soft and velvety to want to rid them of the ears :lol2:

CT Pixie, BSN, RN · Apr 5, 2008

I am still wondering about when (I think his name was) Mick cut the eye lid so he could open it. Mick and the manage did not want to do it. But Rocky insisted. I can understand why anyone would not want to cut someone's eyelid.
He did though which enabled him to open it. Can anyone explain how this works? Was it because it instantly reduced the swelling or is something else going on physiologically?

I would think it helps in the way like when a doctor relieves pressure of a fingernail or toenail by making a small hole in it to allow the pressure to escape and the patient feels instant gradification and less to little pain after the procedure. My daughter had broken her toe, her great toe nail was black and she complained of "throbbing pain", the doctor literally drilled a hole into the nail to relieve the pressure under it and instantly she felt better and the pain was pretty much gone.

Agnus · Apr 5, 2008

I would think it helps in the way like when a doctor relieves pressure of a fingernail or toenail by making a small hole in it to allow the pressure to escape and the patient feels instant gradification and less to little pain after the procedure. My daughter had broken her toe, her great toe nail was black and she complained of "throbbing pain", the doctor literally drilled a hole into the nail to relieve the pressure under it and instantly she felt better and the pain was pretty much gone.

Relieveing pressure was my thought too. But I had not considered pain (as Rocky had to be in a ton of pain already all over. This was the 15 and final round.) I just figured the swelling took up so much space that the lid mechanically could not open. Maybe the pain was the issue or part of it.

Any more thoughts?

TiredMD · Apr 6, 2008

Relieveing pressure was my thought too. But I had not considered pain (as Rocky had to be in a ton of pain already all over. This was the 15 and final round.) I just figured the swelling took up so much space that the lid mechanically could not open. Maybe the pain was the issue or part of it.
Any more thoughts?

His eye was swollen shut. Drain the hematoma and his eye will open back up.

Boxers and the MMA fighters (in the reputable leagues, anyway) are all regularly tested for panels of diseases, including HIV and Hep. The risk of transmission strikes me as low, certainly much lower than . . . oh, I don't know . . . working with needles in a hospital.

I love the UFC/MMA leagues. They have restored the honor of the fighting sports now that boxing has become a joke.