Published Apr 30, 2014
bymysoul2squeeze
39 Posts
Hi All,
I am having an issue with my nurses giving out bottom bunk left and right , they all seem to have a pretty good idea when to give them out (musculosceletal issues, seizures etc) but a lot of times seems like they give it just in case (and I understand that no one wants to be reliable when a fall occurs) but Operations are getting very aggrivated because they only have 50% of bottom bunks and apparently we give out like 80% for new intakes
My question to you is Do you have any guideliness I could adapt regarding issuing of lower bunk? At my old facility only MD/NP could order lower bunk and I'm thinking of doing that, they see all of the new intakes anyway so until then unless they have a gross dissability or seizures/ vertigo they would be on a top bunk. What do you think?
SinMiedo
31 Posts
Sounds like a good idea to me.
My facility requires an MD signature to issue a new bottom bunk pass, unless there is a documented seizure d/o, over age 65, or missing a limb. Nurses can sometimes give temporary BB passes in the event of a limb injury after normal hours, but for the most part casted limbs, etc stay in the Infirmary until healed. I feel like we've cut down on a good deal of requests for BBs for this reason, and we nurses can avoid the argument by simply stating, "Nope, only the MD can give those." :)
amoLucia
7,736 Posts
You know, this is a topic I NEVER would have thought to be an issue. Of course, I don't do Corrections, so I can see now where this is an issue. Kind of like assigning freq fallers close to the nsg desk in LTC.
Always learning something new at AN.
OrganizedChaos, LVN
1 Article; 6,883 Posts
We did the same (seizures, old age, pregnancy, etc.). I also think the MD had to sign off. If there is a valid health reason for the pass, they get one. But generally the inmate doesn't.
military spouse
577 Posts
Yep, sz, pregnancy, old age, and I believe there may have been some based on stringent musculoskeletal problems (uncommon to get one of these). Everyone wants a lower bunk, double mattress, or some other special needs order. I would suggest developing stringent criteria that is posted and available for staff so the decision is easy and consistent.
NConleyRN
4 Posts
My facilty has posted BB guidelines in every exam room and there is no bending.
To Quailify for a Bottom Bunk you MUST meet at least one of the following Criteria:
1. Seizure Disorder
2.Acute Joint Injury (temporary profile only)
3.History of Back Surgery
4.History of Joint Surgery
5.Missing a limb
6.Pregnany
7. Age greater than 50 (to be determined on a case by case basis)
They request a BB, we point to the sign. If they dont have any of the above they usually just say "oh,ok".
tanja strickler
3 Posts
We do btm bunk for sz d/o, wt over 300lbs, physical disabilities. We do give out 7 day temp. profiles while they are on detox meds. Otherwise, it's a firm no to all other requests.
RobBSNRN
41 Posts
Unfortunately my facility makes us do "bottom bunks" for everyone on detox because of seizure risk. Seems totally unreasonable because of the high # of young healthy guys without history of seizures all getting "bottom bunk orders".
Anyone else's work do this?
valzRN, ASN, RN
118 Posts
We (as nurses) are not allowed to just give out BBPs for whatever reason. They all have to have a medical reason and there has to be medical documentation that they have seizures, etc... or on alcohol detox protocol. That was when I worked at the county jail though... it's a little different in the state prison where I am currently at. At the prison, there has to be a documental medical reason and the pass is only good for 3 days before they HAVE to be seen by the medical dr. before the pass can be renewed.
pookyp, LPN
1,074 Posts
At my job, it's automatic bottom bunks for detoxers. 14 days to be exact.
And if you have had a seizure within the last year and take meds for it at home, automatic bottom bunk indefinitely.
At my job, it's automatic bottom bunks for detoxers. 14 days to be exact. And if you have had a seizure within the last year and take meds for it at home, automatic bottom bunk indefinitely.