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This letter I received today from EC student advising.

Dear Christopher: There are three states right now that would block your initial licensure and endorsement of your eventual RN license. CA, MD and WA.

There are some states that will have qualifications to endorse in and that means that you would have to do additional RN hours to endorse into ND, LA, AL, KS, VT, CO (where you may be also precepted for 750 hours on a permit issued by CO Board after completing our program). IL requires 2 years RN experience.

FL requires you to endorse in with no RN hours and so does GA. AZ requires a 120 precepted experience that Excelsior will set up when a student has completed our program.

The school of nursing and the deans have been in close contact with these boards trying to work out solutions to their concerns. We have a new dean of state boards and in the past year have been in touch with CA, MD and WA, the three states that as of now you would not be able to endorse into.

I think I have covered the qualifications, but email or call if any questions.

Rosemary Casale

Nursing Advisor

School of Nursing

Excelsior College

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Specializes in ICU.

I have sent a claification email back to the state board department regarding. If CA, MD, and WA will block ALL attempts at obtaining a RN lic in that state or only inital licensure. Second to clarify if FL and GA will not let you endorse in unless you have your inital licensure there.

Once I recieved the response I will post

Thanks

Chris

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Thank you for your reply.

I have a few questions;

1. You stated that GA and FL, they require NO RN hours. Does this mean if I obtain my lic. in NY they would not endorse (give reciprocity) to me after I pass the NCLEX-RN and try to obtain a lic. in one of these states?

2. Will WA, CA, and MD block my attempts to become endorsed also, or is that inital licensure only?

3. FL and CO would be my only concerns at this point. CO seems I just need to be precepted in-hospital on a restricted lic. ofr 750 hours correct? And for FL would it be better if I then had my inital licensure in FL and then endorse into NY (my current residence?)

thanks for your help

Christopher

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Chris: the procedure for licensure in FL is for non lpns to pass boards or another state and you will be able to endorse in with no Rn hours. If you are an RN with 2000 hours, 1 year experience you may endorse into CO. I only mentioned preceptorship because the CO Board requires the 750 hours of precepted experience as a graduate nurse and EC has nothing to do with that.

To eventually endorse into WA with 1 year RN experience is what the WA has said that they are proposing for our non lpn grads but that will take a year or more. CA Board has blocked nonlpns from endorsing in without 1` year of experience and even that is doubtful but we are working on that.

So, to be clear, right now you will not be able to graduate and apply for the examination or endorsement of RN licensure in CA, MD, WA. We are working with MD and WA and even CA, but nothing is definite and we never no what will happen.

To obtain RN licensure in FL, you must apply for initial licensure to another state such as NY to endorse in. Since you are in NY now and you finish and are still here you should apply for the initial license here if you still haven't moved to FL and then endorse into FL. You may also apply

to many other states for initial license and then endorse into FL if you have moved to FL before you finish. I am sitting here so if you want to call me I will call you back if you have to leave a message. Good studying.

Rosemary Casale

Nursing Advisor

School of Nursing

Excelsior College

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Ummm sorry to inform you but Washington state will let you get your license there as a non-lpn ece grad. That came from the WA board of nursing and I am living in WA and have applied to go to ECE. Just an FYI. And CA will NOT allow you to obtain licensure there at all. Like not as an LPN or Medic or anything No endorsing. Nothing. Check with the board not the school.

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Hmm well CA is working with EC about the LPN students and a externship, so it may be possable soon for LPN EC to sit in CA. I agree about going to the specific BoN's that you want to be certified, but as Im not going to e-mail each and every 50 states, I thought I might ask the primary source.

:)

Thanks for the info about WA, can you post the e-mails between you and the BoN in WA that would be great info

thanks

Chris

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This link to the WA board seems to suggest (to me) that their preceptor program for EC licensure is only open to LPN's. Will be interesting if more documentation is entered into the mix.

https://fortress.wa.gov/doh/hpqa1/hps6/Nursing/documents/Regents_Preceptor.pdf

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I will email them and ask them again. I called and spoke to a few people on the phone just to make sure I wasn't getting any mis information. If you endorse into WA you will not have to do the preceptorship and they will allow you to do that if you are a medic or anything else. I as a medic am going to be sitting for my NCLEX in Idaho and then endorsing into WA. Like I said I have verified multiple times via the telephone that that is acceptable as they only verify with the state you are coming from not from the school or anything else. I also called CA and they have maintained the fact that they are NOT working with ECE. That came from the board I will email her so I can get it in writing as well, but they stated via the telephone four weeks ago that there has been no change since the board one the appeals case. I will follow up soon.

~Azari~

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I have heard that in order to be endrosed in MD, an Excelsior grad must graduate by Dec 2007. What is the latest on this anyone?

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I think Medics and RTs with EC RNs are in the same boat. I was initially so nervous about the whole licensure thing, but really I dont think its as big of a deal as I thought it was. Unless you live in CA, MD or WA you can get a license in another state, work there for a year and probably then get in anywhere ....except California.

And if California doesnt want me, then I don't want them either.

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This is only going to get more complicated as the NLC expands further across the country. My own state now requires 750 clinical hours for EC grads (350 if LPN already). But we join the compact this year, there are few states in the compact with any such restriction. See what I mean by complicated.

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Chris: the procedure for licensure in FL is for non lpns to pass boards or another state and you will be able to endorse in with no Rn hours. If you are an RN with 2000 hours, 1 year experience you may endorse into CO. I only mentioned preceptorship because the CO Board requires the 750 hours of precepted experience as a graduate nurse and EC has nothing to do with that.

To eventually endorse into WA with 1 year RN experience is what the WA has said that they are proposing for our non lpn grads but that will take a year or more. CA Board has blocked nonlpns from endorsing in without 1` year of experience and even that is doubtful but we are working on that.

So, to be clear, right now you will not be able to graduate and apply for the examination or endorsement of RN licensure in CA, MD, WA. We are working with MD and WA and even CA, but nothing is definite and we never no what will happen.

To obtain RN licensure in FL, you must apply for initial licensure to another state such as NY to endorse in. Since you are in NY now and you finish and are still here you should apply for the initial license here if you still haven't moved to FL and then endorse into FL. You may also apply

to many other states for initial license and then endorse into FL if you have moved to FL before you finish. I am sitting here so if you want to call me I will call you back if you have to leave a message. Good studying.

Rosemary Casale

Nursing Advisor

School of Nursing

Excelsior College

Well, I am a Florida resident and an LPN. I want to know if I will be able to obtain an RN license in Florida?

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