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Body slam to nurses all ! ! !

http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/2006/01/role-of-nurse-specialist-in-modern.html

i found this article. i know it's not really up to date, however it may satisfy some folks viewing this forum of a minority of md's common opinion of what a nurse does and how intelligent a nurse is or isn't. i don't know if this article is simply tongue and cheek humor or a really mean body slam to the nursing professional community in general...your thoughts?

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Definately tongue in cheek. This is aimed at the UK and NHS. Due to EU directives doctors hours are more and more restricted and nurses are being more and more required to take on roles once done by the doctors. The sad thing is the hospitals will not pay the nurse to expand their role, not pay them and have less nursing staff on the wards. This is resulting in an exodus of nurses from the UK especially newly qualified who can not find work in the UK as there isn't any.

Your link is from Great Britain.

I feel that the majority of the time, the MD's in the USA treat nurses with respect for their education (at least that is the case where I work...with a few exceptions).

Having said that, sometimes I wonder if the MD's really are aware of how much we nurses know and do for them. I have rarely had an MD that I have a working relationship with get upset at me or treat me like I am an inferior person, even though I am a new nurse. Most of the MD's at my hospital respect our opinions and listen to us if we have a concern about a pt. They are also willing to teach me about a condition since they know I am new in my field. I have no idea what nurses in England are trained to do, so I can't really say if this is an accurate description. Remember, not too long ago in the US, Nurses were really only doing what the CNA's do for us now.

We have come a long way since then, and most of the time I feel that I get the respect that my title deserves.

Amy

Your link is from Great Britain.

I feel that the majority of the time, the MD's in the USA treat nurses with respect for their education (at least that is the case where I work...with a few exceptions).

Having said that, sometimes I wonder if the MD's really are aware of how much we nurses know and do for them. I have rarely had an MD that I have a working relationship with get upset at me or treat me like I am an inferior person, even though I am a new nurse. Most of the MD's at my hospital respect our opinions and listen to us if we have a concern about a pt. They are also willing to teach me about a condition since they know I am new in my field. I have no idea what nurses in England are trained to do, so I can't really say if this is an accurate description. Remember, not too long ago in the US, Nurses were really only doing what the CNA's do for us now.

We have come a long way since then, and most of the time I feel that I get the respect that my title deserves.

Amy

Nursing in the UK is very much automonous and we do do things different. I have never had problems with doctors respecting my and other nurses opinions and have seen many doctors stand up for nurses with management and families. Midwifery is a good one to look at as in the UK it is generally the midwife that does all cares including deliveries and only when there is a problem is the doctor involved. The sad things is lack of staff and is very normal to see a ratio of 2 RN's and 2 care assistance for over 25 patients, that is my experience from the hospitals I have worked in.

You should check out the UK forum, plenty of good and bad information there on how things are in the UK

"I am afraid nurses are the future and doctors won't even belong in hospitals, since hospitals will some how be doctorless."

YESS! :lol2:

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