Published May 9, 2006
plum42
12 Posts
to everyone,
some of you might already know me from the private messages i've been sending out. thank you very much for your responses. i would like to address my concern to the forum and get a general response from everyone and suzanne. please read on.
my name is patrick and i currently reside in new jersey u.s. i am filipino and can speak the native tongue fluently (tagalog). i've attended 3 years of college in our state university here in n.j., but unfortunately i was unable to graduate with a degree. i found myself working with my uncle in his medical equipment business from the time i left school. i'm now in the tender age of 26 who is interested in going back to school for nursing. don't get me wrong, working for a family member has its perks, but no sense of pride whatsoever for myself.
i wanted to start anew (clean slate) and opt to attain a bachelors in nursing to secure my future, and start a family. my girlfriend will be graduating this semester with her bsn in ucla, california at the age of 25. as for myself i can't wait that long, especially with the ridiculous waiting list for the adn program (associates) and shortage of schools. i've read many responses by other member on going to school in the philippines. 50% says it will be the best experience you'll ever have in the field of nursing. 50% says why not just stay in the u.s., so many people will die to be in your shoes. yes, i can wait and sit around to be enrolled in an associate program and end up paying over $25,000 for a 30 month course and not able to work. that is my predicament.
i would love to attend school in the philippines. i've heard many great things about the curriculum, courses, and hand on experience. the schools also give back to the community by doing pro-bono work for the surrounding underprivileged communities. patient to nursing student relations is big in the pinas and its uncommon here in the states due to mal-practice and lawsuits towards the students. the other reason to attend school in the pinas is it's cost-effective. i'm not a rich man; i have to work hard here in the u.s. to sustain a meaningful subsistence. also, desperate times call for desperate measures.
please if anyone is reading this. what will be the best school i can attend for someone like myself in quezon/manila?? as a 1st courser with some college credits done. here are the following schools that i had my eye on so far. 1. old lady of fatima in quezon city (my first choice and so far the only school i've contacted and willing to accept me) 2. pwu ( no bsn though just masters ) 3. up (doesn't allow transfers) 4. trinity college ??
5. ust ( i don't know what qualifications i need to attend this school, my parents are alumni's but not in nursing ) 6. far eastern????
what is the average cost of the schools??
anymore schools you can recommend for me??
your response will be greatly appreciated and very much thanked.
thank you for your time in reading my post. salamat and god bless.
respectfully,
patrick
suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
You will need to attend school for four years in the Philippines for it to be accepted here. And Associates degree from the Philippines is not accepted here.
You will still need to go thru the same licensing steps as a foreign grad, the states do not care that you are a US citizen. Depending on the state, you may need to actually have to write the CGFNS exam, or go thru the CES process.
You have no guarantee that you will get thru the program there either, same as that you have no guarantee to get thru a program here.
You will need to attend school for four years in the Philippines for it to be accepted here. And Associates degree from the Philippines is not accepted here.You will still need to go thru the same licensing steps as a foreign grad, the states do not care that you are a US citizen. Depending on the state, you may need to actually have to write the CGFNS exam, or go thru the CES process.You have no guarantee that you will get thru the program there either, same as that you have no guarantee to get thru a program here.
Yes, im willing to sacrifice some time to get my 4yr BSN degree. Hopefully i can transfer some of my credits i'v had completed here. ENG classes, BIO Classes, CHEM classes, MAT-calc classes, Psyc, History. I have about 40 credits worth of class that i did above average on. It has been over 5 years since i left school, and most colleges here doesn't accept credits/units over 5 years old and are considered obselete.
Im willing to take the necessary steps, CGFNS-CLE-NCLEX to attain my goal in getting a BSN in nursing.
Yes, there are no gaurantees getting thru a program in the philippines. Nursing in the philippines is probably a lot more demanding and tiring compared here in the U.S., but the experience i'll be receiving will be very valuable. I know the schools lack the technology U.S. schools have, but the caring aspect of a nurse is still strong and alive in the PINAS (hahahah hopefully). At least i'll set foot in a nursing program and I definitely expect the tidious work. Wouldn't that make me a more well rounded nurse, compare to the associate grads here in the U.S.. They are the majority of nurses working in the U.S. hospitals nowadays.
ts also about being COST-EFFECTIVE is my main primary concern.
I still remember what you said in one of your post that made me look for an alternative in nursing schol.. It state, " BSN is BSN, no matter where you attain it. thanks for the inspiration.
Thank you for your response Suzanne, i greatly appreaciate it. If you have anymore info, please share it with me.
Please keep your response comming and i'll definitel applaud the positives. thank you and god bless
nrswnabee
279 Posts
to everyone,some of you might already know me from the private messages i've been sending out. thank you very much for your responses. i would like to address my concern to the forum and get a general response from everyone and suzanne. please read on.my name is patrick and i currently reside in new jersey u.s. i am filipino and can speak the native tongue fluently (tagalog). i've attended 3 years of college in our state university here in n.j., but unfortunately i was unable to graduate with a degree. i found myself working with my uncle in his medical equipment business from the time i left school. i'm now in the tender age of 26 who is interested in going back to school for nursing. don't get me wrong, working for a family member has its perks, but no sense of pride whatsoever for myself. i wanted to start anew (clean slate) and opt to attain a bachelors in nursing to secure my future, and start a family. my girlfriend will be graduating this semester with her bsn in ucla, california at the age of 25. as for myself i can't wait that long, especially with the ridiculous waiting list for the adn program (associates) and shortage of schools. i've read many responses by other member on going to school in the philippines. 50% says it will be the best experience you'll ever have in the field of nursing. 50% says why not just stay in the u.s., so many people will die to be in your shoes. yes, i can wait and sit around to be enrolled in an associate program and end up paying over $25,000 for a 30 month course and not able to work. that is my predicament.i would love to attend school in the philippines. i've heard many great things about the curriculum, courses, and hand on experience. the schools also give back to the community by doing pro-bono work for the surrounding underprivileged communities. patient to nursing student relations is big in the pinas and its uncommon here in the states due to mal-practice and lawsuits towards the students. the other reason to attend school in the pinas is it's cost-effective. i'm not a rich man; i have to work hard here in the u.s. to sustain a meaningful subsistence. also, desperate times call for desperate measures. please if anyone is reading this. what will be the best school i can attend for someone like myself in quezon/manila?? as a 1st courser with some college credits done. here are the following schools that i had my eye on so far. 1. old lady of fatima in quezon city (my first choice and so far the only school i've contacted and willing to accept me) 2. pwu ( no bsn though just masters ) 3. up (doesn't allow transfers) 4. trinity college ??5. ust ( i don't know what qualifications i need to attend this school, my parents are alumni's but not in nursing ) 6. far eastern????what is the average cost of the schools??anymore schools you can recommend for me??your response will be greatly appreciated and very much thanked. thank you for your time in reading my post. salamat and god bless.respectfully,patrick
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hi patrick. i'm still working on a nursing degree but here's what i think---have someone do some leg work for you in manila/qc. it's hard to get answers over the phone let alone get the right ones. send a copy of your transcript and through your "liaison" seek assessment with your shortlisted schools as to---
1) which subjects you can transfer
2) which subjects you'd still need to take
3) how much
from here, you'll have a better idea which school best suits your purposes. since you said that you only have 3 years of college, i don't know if you fit the "second courser" category at all through which many schools have patterned second degree nursing programs....i could be wrong but you may want to try anyway.
kiko88
298 Posts
to everyone,some of you might already know me from the private messages i've been sending out. thank you very much for your responses. i would like to address my concern to the forum and get a general response from everyone and suzanne. please read on.my name is patrick and i currently reside in new jersey u.s. i am filipino and can speak the native tongue fluently (tagalog). i've attended 3 years of college in our state university here in n.j., but unfortunately i was unable to graduate with a degree. i found myself working with my uncle in his medical equipment business from the time i left school. i'm now in the tender age of 26 who is interested in going back to school for nursing. don't get me wrong, working for a family member has its perks, but no sense of pride whatsoever for myself. i wanted to start anew (clean slate) and opt to attain a bachelors in nursing to secure my future, and start a family. my girlfriend will be graduating this semester with her bsn in ucla, california at the age of 25. as for myself i can't wait that long, especially with the ridiculous waiting list for the adn program (associates) and shortage of schools. i've read many responses by other member on going to school in the philippines. 50% says it will be the best experience you'll ever have in the field of nursing. 50% says why not just stay in the u.s., so many people will die to be in your shoes. yes, i can wait and sit around to be enrolled in an associate program and end up paying over $25,000 for a 30 month course and not able to work. that is my predicament.i would love to attend school in the philippines. i've heard many great things about the curriculum, courses, and hand on experience. the schools also give back to the community by doing pro-bono work for the surrounding underprivileged communities. patient to nursing student relations is big in the pinas and its uncommon here in the states due to mal-practice and lawsuits towards the students. the other reason to attend school in the pinas is it's cost-effective. i'm not a rich man; i have to work hard here in the u.s. to sustain a meaningful subsistence. also, desperate times call for desperate measures. please if anyone is reading this. what will be the best school i can attend for someone like myself in quezon/manila?? as a 1st courser with some college credits done. here are the following schools that i had my eye on so far. 1. old lady of fatima in quezon city (my first choice and so far the only school i've contacted and willing to accept me) 2. pwu ( no bsn though just masters ) 3. up (doesn't allow transfers) 4. trinitycollege ??5. ust ( i don't know what qualifications i need to attend this school, my parents are alumni's but not in nursing ) 6. far eastern????what is the average cost of the schools??anymore schools you can recommend for me??your response will be greatly appreciated and very much thanked. thank you for your time in reading my post. salamat and god bless.respectfully,patrick
please if anyone is reading this. what will be the best school i can attend for someone like myself in quezon/manila?? as a 1st courser with some college credits done. here are the following schools that i had my eye on so far. 1. old lady of fatima in quezon city (my first choice and so far the only school i've contacted and willing to accept me) 2. pwu ( no bsn though just masters ) 3. up (doesn't allow transfers) 4. trinitycollege ??
as far as i know, pwu has a bsn program. try asking directly the admission's office. i really think it has a bsn program.
trinity college quezon city, i think, has a much better nursing school than fatima or pwu. it has very good teachers (very important). it has an exclusive base hospital that is world class (st. luke's). a base hospital is very important. this is a big problem for other schools which have none. it has a very good and consistent performance in local board exam ratings. last i know, it accepts transferees but student should not be more than 30 years old (but you have to check this again because policy might have changed already). inquire ahead, there are thousands of applicants every year competing to get in.
:penguin:
Not sure if you researched staying in the US and getting a job in a hospital, in one that has nursing programs for their employees. As long as you are an employee there for x-number of months, then you can qualify for their program.
Your girlfriend just graduated in CA, is she going to wait for four years while you go back to Manila to go to school? Sorry, but I think not.
I think that you need to do some serious thinking about school here before jumping the gun to go overseas.
gemini_star, BSN, RN
1 Article; 403 Posts
Yes, PWU has a BSN program. In your case you are considered as a transferee. Some of your subjects will be credited if it is identical to the subjects they offer here. You can finish it in 2-3 years since it has a trimestral program. But do think of other options there before jumping over here.
nadb0y
1 Post
Hello Patrick, and to everybody I'm new here! I came across this site while searching for a good nursing school in the Philippines. I am glad to found out that I am not alone, the only difference between us is that I am turning 30 yrs old next year and I attended college in the Philippines for 3 yrs. I was 20 yrs old when I migrated here in the US. I am going back next year to finish a degree in nursing. I agree on the reason on why you wanted to go back to the Philippines and finish your degree in nursing, the "cost" of studying in here and the sense of accomplishing something in your life. I did try to get into college in here and I got myself admitted to a community college while maintaining a full time job. I struggled a lot since I have to rely on myself financially. In addition, I have to balance my schedule from work and at school. It was really stressful that's why I cannot concentrate in school most of the time. I believe some people can manage to do the same thing, but I guess I am not one of them. I know some people may disagree on our decision to go back to the Philippines and study, because of the fact that we are already here in the US, even my friends have mixed emotions on my decision. But my mom is behind my back with this, which I thought would be the first one to disagree with me. But i believe on the reasons you put up sums it all. By the way, I attended Emilio Aguinaldo College in Manila when I was still in the Philippines they also have a nursing program. I just don't know the quality though, since I took up a different course. That's the first school that I am going to inquire when I go back because I already have a record with them. But I'm still looking for other schools. Ok pare! Best wishes to you and may God Bless us on our chosen path! Keep Posting
ultm
I have just visited FEU may 19:
27,000~30,000 Php per sem BSN.
books ex.
plus other on the *buylist*
UST goes with something close to that figure.
Lone Stranger
33 Posts
to everyone,my name is patrick and i currently reside in new jersey u.s. i am filipino and can speak the native tongue fluently (tagalog). respectfully,patrick
my name is patrick and i currently reside in new jersey u.s. i am filipino and can speak the native tongue fluently (tagalog). respectfully,
pat,
have you ever spent time in the philippines? one of things you may have difficulty adjusting to will be the urban environmental conditions. pollution levels are high, smog thick, very high population density and so on and so forth. this is especially true of the schools in old manila (pwu is one).
it's a big jump you're thinking about and it might not be a bad idea to come visit after you've formed an initial first foray plan.
oh, and finally, locals often tack on an extra year to get the exams (local board, english proficiency - ielts or toefl ibt, and the nclex - although i think you can skip the first, the second, and focus on the third).
26? you're very young. you have lots of time to study.
shenling
34 Posts
hey if you wanna enroll in fatima it's much easier for you to adjust there,, because it's not in the university belt so you won't have a hard time worrying about some snatchers lurking around hehehehe, but still, its the Philippines so you have to be careful, and a there's also fil am students in Fatima such as yourself, we also have a base hospital if that's what your looking for in a school, ask them if they could credit your previous subjects. but you're there already so why not just enroll in a nursing school there?? patient relationships here are somewhat the same there anyway.
lcprnc
67 Posts
Hi,
I know that your major concern is cost...i.e., you think that it is going to be more expensive going to nsg school here in the US than in the Phils. However, you need to take into consideration the overall cost and time in the long run. Have you considered obtaining a student loan? If I were you, I would also look for an employer (preferably a health care facility) that has tuition reimbursement as part of their benefit pkg. Take advantage of these types of benefits. IMHO, I think it would be more expensive going back to the Phils, go to school there, have to take CGFNS, NCLEX, learn the US technology, re-learn the US culture, etc., etc. when you return. I also hope that your GF is willing to wait for you that long until you graduate.
Good luck. I feel strongly that you should consider staying and going to school here in the US.