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I am diploma RN and I feel I have just as much skill and knowledge as a BSN prepared RN coming out of school now being that I have been in the field for 20+ years...but I now feel as if we are being pushed out of the hospitals as more and more go to a policy of hiring only BSN RNs. What to you think?

Specializes in ICU.
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. I know here the schools are having trouble filling the the nursing spots. Fewer RNs graduating and then a lot can't pass the NCLEX after they do and give up. Both of my kids said they wanted to become RNs but I have talked both of them out of it. Telling them it is not the same profession I went into years ago. I guess after all these years I am a little burned out. People are not the same, we are abused a lot more than we were when I started...and we used to be taken up for some...not anymore....the patient is ALWAYS right! Sorry got a bit off topic there.

This saddens me. Why on earth would you want to talk your kids out of nursing. Because you are burnt out? Whose to say that would happen with your kids? I think it is a huge mistake for parents to get involved with what their kids should do in life. Mine didn't with me, and I won't do that to my son. Look at how many people on here are getting their second degree in nursing. They went to school and majored in something and paid money for a degree and now it is useless because they are miserable at their jobs. Please let your children do what they desire, not what you desire.

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Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.

I began as an ADN then went directly into a BSN program. I am currently in graduate school for the DNP. I believe one of the mistakes with nursing is having so many entry points. Nursing is viewed as a vocation by many people instead of a profession. That has to change so nurses can become more well respected amongst other healthcare providers. Otherwise, we always be the handmaiden.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
With the projected shortages of heathcare workers in general...not just nurses this is a poor time for facilities to alienate any nurse. BSN programs can not keep up with the demand that is coming at least in my state, because there are just a handful statewide. Interestingly enough facilities cite "Magnet Status" as the reason for the push for all BSN prepared RNs when that status doesn't require it and is supposed to increase our job satisfaction while providing top notch care. Just a few thoughts....

Apparently nobody has told those hospitals that the Magnet fad has passed and that adoption at this late date makes them look, well kinda sad and pathetic.

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They are really aiming for an 80% registered nurse bachelor's degree holders.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
I began as an ADN then went directly into a BSN program. I am currently in graduate school for the DNP. I believe one of the mistakes with nursing is having so many entry points. Nursing is viewed as a vocation by many people instead of a profession. That has to change so nurses can become more well respected amongst other healthcare providers. Otherwise, we always be the handmaiden.

IMO nursing being a vocation has a lot more to do with things like punching time clocks, lack of autonomy, and being frequent victims of abuse by patient's, management, and physicians, no to mention hard physical labor involved than multiple entry paths. Other professions have multiple entry points and don't seem to be seen as vocations. Physicians and PA's come to mind. A physician can entry practice with a bachelors degree (BSBM, usually British medical education system), MD and DO doctorate degrees. PA's can enter with an associates, bachelors or masters.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
The other reality is hospitals want to achieve magnet status which requires 80% of their staff to be BSN trained.

What is your source for that? I know 80% BSN is the recommendation of the IOM (an organization with little credibility in my view). I know that now Magnet wants a plan in place to meet that recommendation.

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Specializes in ICU.

I apologize for the use of the wrong word. I meant a recommendation .

Either way it greatly affects the chance of a new hire not having a BSN

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