Asking me to go against policy

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  1. Sped Teachers be allowed to assess/send home their students without Health office input?

    • YES-they know students
    • NO- it's Health Office job
    • Maybe- depends on situation

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I will try to make this short...

In a nut shell, Special ED director sent me an email asking that the Special ED teacher, be able to send her special needs students home without question. SpecED teacher was annoyed at my assessment of NO fever, and annoyed I called parent to say child had No fever. She wants all ability to override me, but GET THIS- they still want the students to come to the health office, and ME to call parent for child to go home without me even looking/assessing anything!:no:

I pulled rank, and said NOT Gonna Happen.

Waiting on my supervisor/Principle to comment on email.

Specializes in ER.

So, I was soundly reprimanded by my teacher friend who confirms that even students sent home for non-medical reasons still have to be checked by the nurse. The first part of my comment/question may have been misdirected. In my world, maybe that's the equivalent of law enforcement bringing people by the ER to get checked out before taking them to jail. One more layer of passing responsibility. But what really attracted me to this thread was the idea of going against policy. I'm standing by my statement on that part. Policy protects the institution, not the nurse.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Oncology, School Nursing, OB.

No, no, no. I hope your principal doesn't go along with this. This could turn into anytime they are grossing them out, they will call a parent. Some teachers and/or aides don't do well with coughing, snotty, booger picking, sneezing kids and want them to go home for any little thing. Kids don't need excluded (esp special ed) for this.

I don't have problems with my special ed classes doing this. Just kg and pre-k. They will sometimes call parents to pick up their "sick" child without me knowing about it. I told my principal and he put a stop to it. We had one kg aide that brought me every single kid in her class with a cold every single day until that cold was over to make sure they didn't need to go home. She'd yell at me they were infecting the whole room. I would tell her everyone has already been exposed anyway and she's argue back that I didn't know what I was talking about. Thank goodness she retired. We have another that needs to retire that's not as bad but just gets annoyed with the kids and hopes I can find a reason to send them home. We have a sub aide that does the same thing. I just keep thinking find another job! Good grief!

You are SO right Blue Moon! There is NO way I'm going to call a parent to say that the child is sick because he or she is having a bad day. The teacher/admin needs to make that call. I have worked with the same kind of teachers/aides that you are dealing with. I swear that this one KG teacher started her day with "Good morning students, who doesn"t feel good?" UGH. You know how KG kids are, they'd all get sent down during the course of the day. Her favorite item to write on the pass was "lethargic" Hummm...I put up with her for years. I swear these people that are so afraid of "spreading germs" are in the wrong profession. It's a school, get over it.

Specializes in school nurse.

So essentially they want you to rubber stamp their decision. (If there's any question, they'll certainly hide behind the statement "the nurse sent them home.")

I, too, have seen some SPED teachers whose chief goal on any given day seems to be to winnow down their daily census as much as possible, with the most trivial reasons. Is there a sub-type of person that gravitates towards that specialty?

Specializes in School Nursing.

Hi everyone just an update if you can call it that!

My boss the principle just casually says on Friday at 3:45pm, (4:00pm we leave) that he will be meeting with the SPED director to go over it. That's it, nothing more :banghead:

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