Are NMs privy to their staff's hourly wage?

live4today, RN · Jan 30, 2004

Originally posted by sjoe
..............................Frankly, I could have cared less what any
of the other places thought anyway. I knew what kind of job I was doing--and knew it better than any of them did.

Exactly! sjoe....now you're talking MY language! :rotfl:

It's just that everywhere I apply for work, they want to know how my semi-annual and annual evals went. When I tell them I didn't have any during that particular job, they say "Oh really?"

So, I was just wondering if that was standard to have evals where one works..or NOT. :nurse:

Tweety, BSN, RN · Jan 30, 2004

Here the starting salary is usually determined by a pre-determined amount as dictated by your experience level. Usually it's not negotiable. But when some good nurses finished up their contracts and wanted to staff, I believe there was some negotiation going on.

After that the raises are determined by the manager. Here the budget amount is about 3% per employee. But the manager can give anywhere from 0% to 6%, but has to stay within the budget and for anything over 4% has to justify it to her/his higher ups.

But the manager definately knows the amount.

We all have sit down interviews during our annual reviews. I thought that was done everywhere. Clinical Nurse III's who do the evals and sit-downs and notify the employees of their raises are privy to pay information. So I know what some of my coworkers are making, if I've evaluated them. But that of course is super-confidential info.

Usually during the sit-down it's "how much will I be making" is all that matters to the person anyway. :)

jnette, ASN, EMT-I · Jan 30, 2004

Renee, I have received a sit down eval with input encouraged with my DON/NM in our small clinic annually at month of hire date without fail. She has always submitted the max allowable raise percentage.

I thought an annual eval was common and to be expected everywhere ? Hmmm. Interesting.

And WHERE did your gorgeous HAT go ??? I loved that avitar !!!

It was so YOU !!!

Speculating · Jan 31, 2004

Originally posted by cheerfuldoer
Reeeaaaaallllllllllllllyyyyyyy???? I had NO idea that was how that was suppose to happen. I got a raise when working last year, but never had anyone sit down with me and evaluate me the entire year I was there! The NM just walked up to me and handed me a slip of paper and said to me as she handed the paper to me "You just got a raise." I said, "Okay, thanks."

Why did I not receive a sit-down evaluation before that raise? Shouldn't I have had an evaluation since I worked there one month shy of a year?

Every evaluation I've ever had so far required me to evaluate myself first. Then the NM would do a 1:1 evaluation and at the end my signature was required along with the evaluator. The only times I've received a piece of paper handed to me like you stated it was to you it was an across the board raise and all the nursing staff...got one. If that's the case, it's good for you because your annual percent will be based on your new rate. And, of course if that's the way you received your raise you must be doing a good job without any concerns about your work habits or performance - congratulations I hope it was a chunk of change. :balloons:

Speculating · Jan 31, 2004

Originally posted by cheerfuldoer
"And just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise." -- Luke 6:31, NKJV
What good is it to do something for others if you expect something in return. We should be merciful just as our Father also is merciful.

Of course we expect something in return, It's called that warm fuzzy that we get deep inside, and it feels so good that it makes us want to do it again and again! It was nice to chat on the board with you Cheerfuldoer, take care

live4today, RN · Jan 31, 2004

Originally posted by jnette
....................And WHERE did your gorgeous HAT go ??? I loved that avitar !!!
It was so YOU !!!

Okay, I put the hat back just 4 U jnette! For NOW anyway, but you know a woman my age changes her mood with the room temperature, don't cha! :chuckle :kiss

gypsyatheart · Jan 31, 2004

OK, I have to say I LOVE the hat, hadn't noticed it before, but totally LOVE it!!!

OK back to the discussion... LOL:D

live4today, RN · Jan 31, 2004

Originally posted by Speculating
Every evaluation I've ever had so far required me to evaluate myself first. Then the NM would do a 1:1 evaluation and at the end my signature was required along with the evaluator. The only times I've received a piece of paper handed to me like you stated it was to you it was an across the board raise and all the nursing staff...got one. If that's the case, it's good for you because your annual percent will be based on your new rate. And, of course if that's the way you received your raise you must be doing a good job without any concerns about your work habits or performance - congratulations I hope it was a chunk of change. :balloons:

:chuckle Yesss...I would have evaluated myself as one dang good nurse alright! And rightly so!

My NM obviously KNEW that I was a good nurse or she wouldn't have given me that raise, especially without ever sitting down to evaluate me. Oh well..........her loss...the unit's loss...I've moved on! :nurse:

live4today, RN · Jan 31, 2004

Originally posted by moondancer
OK, I have to say I LOVE the hat, hadn't noticed it before, but totally LOVE it!!!

OK back to the discussion... LOL:D

Thank ya, thank ya, thank ya I say!

I can't take credit for the hat though. I found it on the "Red Hat Society" page via the internet. It's what the members wear when they get together. I'm old enough to join them, so had to read up on them first. It is cute if I say so myself. And...I don't own a dress hat, never have, but I'd wear one if the occasion were right.