Any INTJ personality nurses out there...I need help in choosing any advance nursing car

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I have been a nurse for 4 years, different settings such as telemetry (2 years), ER (3 months), stepdown (6 months) , telemetry float (6 month), ICU staff (1 year), ICU float (3 months)...I know that it doesn't look like a stable person's career. But here is the thing...I chose a career not suitable for my personality and still trying to figure out a way out or a way to fit into my personality. Despite all, I work with people really well because I have to pay student loans and mortgage. LOL LOL. Every unit I have worked in, my co-workers truly love me, including my managers and supervisors because I understand the system and I am extremely helpful to others but the problem is that I am forcing myself to be social and helpful to hide my true self. Over the years, I have learnt that my ways of life isn't truly accepted or understood, thus in order to have a peace of mind, I have to fit in to what is considered to be normal. It basically means I am a fake person to pay my bills...sad I know. Thus, I find it necessary to switch jobs before I offend someone else or may be before my true self is discovered. I know u are wondering who I truly am...LOL. I am a highly rational person, very intuitive and scientific and less sympathetic. But I know how to fake it or avoid such uncomfortable situations. I think things thoroughly; what they meant and their purposes. I see things in patterns. I like challenges, and hate routine work. May be that explains why I tend to switch working environments so quickly. I enjoy working hard, and sorting things out so that the system works well for everyone involved. I am a problem solver and there is nothing out there I feel I can't solve or any task out there so difficult for me to figure out. I constantly need challenges and some kind of disorganization for me to sort out and make it perfect/organized. So I choose such environments for work where I feel is highly disorganized. Very organized environments are very threatening to my personality because I feel that I am useless. As an example, my first career as a nurse is in a very prestigious hospital in NJ, very organized and very disciplined. And I never felt I was truly appreciated or valued even though I had worked really hard. This is on telemetry floor. I requested to be transferred to ER but yet found myself to be in such unchallenging situation, thus bored. So I took a travelling assignment to Washington DC where I was assigned to a cardio-vascular step down unit. I was seeing patients s/p CABG, s/P AVR and vascular surgeries including amputees....I was truly happy to work in these environments unlike everyone else. This is a level 1 trauma, high acuity hospital in Washington DC. By the way, I had felt that this hospital had lacked organization ever since I had started working as a travel nurse, because 50% of the staff in that unit was traveler or agency nurse. I had always wondered why they had high level of agency/travel nurses compare to other hospitals. I took advantage of the situation, and I volunteered to float as a telemetry nurse after 6 months of working as a cardiovascular-thoracic-vascular surgery step-down RN without realizing I would be the first floater in all their telemetry units. In my mind, I figured I would be off good use for them and at the same time I would be experiencing things I had never worked with, such as s/p PCI, s/p CABG/AVR and so on. I realized that I was the first person to do so, because I found another agency nurse complaining that someone started floating to all the units thus every agency/traveler/per-deim nurses had to start floating. I didn't identify myself as being such the person, but I was kind of surprised that the system had to change because of me. And a year later, after leaving that hospital and started working as ICU nurse, I applied to another hospital for perdiem position where they gave a personality test first. I was called for an interview with other nurses, but my interview was with the Chief nursing officer where as everyone else was with managers. And he explained to me that he was starting float ICU nursing positions for all the per diems and if I was interested in it. Mind u, I never applied for float ICU position, but respiratory care unit per diem position unit. So freaking weird...so anxious about it. I started talking to my friends of my experiences and they told me to take the myers-Biggs personality test and turned out that I was INTJ with a couple of different tests, very few of us. 1% of the population. So surprised and affirming result. I have known to feel so weird about me for long time.....I enjoy being alone, I truly don't need others for my pleasure time. I love reading and rationalizing. I am creative i.e. I enjoy drawing, painting and decorating my place constantly. I am a loner for most part. I am very good in school, and especially natural sciences and mathematics such as biology, chemistry (general, organic), and anatomy/ physiology, calculus, discrete mathematics courses and so on. I was a premed major for a couple of years before switching to computer science as undergrad, which I did really well as well. And as a second degree accelerated nursing program, I did well with 3.56 GPA. But at that time, all I was concerned with was getting a job that paid me so that I could support myself and my family. So I found nursing to be a good job without realizing what it took to be a nurse.

As I mentioned above, I work well with others at work places, even though I am a private, unsociable person. I help others...I am the first one to start new things in the working environment and the first one to teach others...whether others want to learn new things or not...I found myself most of the time against a brick stone...where nobody really cares to change the system, where as I see the opposite. And I get discouraged at times. Thus explains my continuous change of working environment...but now I am realizing may be nursing isn't really for me...but don't know what else to do with advanced nursing...I truly hate dealing with people...I like a job where it requires me to do physically and leave everyone else alone...I am very independent...but I sometimes feel like nursing doesn't allow me to be independent. The way I compensate for it is that I do my job independently but yet help everyone else who feels like they need help so that I don't get to be seen as not a team player. Even as a float nurse, I do everything myself...from patient care (thank God to the automatic rotational beds) to understanding patients' symptoms and dealing with it...I am a CCRN certified after 1 year of ICU. But surely, I am not your typical kind of nurse...Please people give me a hint on what I should do as a nurse, surely bedside nursing isn't for me. I applied to CRNA schools, a couple of them, thinking that it doesn't require socializing at all. But any other suggestions in nursing field is very appreciated. I truly need help!! I am currently in Acute Care NP program....because my advisor thought that was the right fit for me because it turns out that it's hard for acute nurses to get a job as acute nurse NP thus forced to get their DNP and eventually teach!!! LOL...that's just my thought!!!!

P.S. Don't be judgmental of my grammar and spelling...I am a bit disoriented of the wine I have had....if u don't understand, please state nicely that u don't understand...no harsh comments are welcomed, since I am highly sensitive, but very nice, understanding person....BE A NURSE AS U READ THIS!!!!!

Specializes in CVICU, Obs/Gyn, Derm, NICU.
I hear you, because I had some misconceptions about nursing as well. I had my own doubts prior to taking the plunge. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I really think you just don't know until you see what nurses really do all day. What are you basing your opinion of the functions of a nurse on? Have you actually been able to be in a hospital shadowing a nurse? If you haven't, it might be a good idea to do that a few times. I also may have a different perspective. My clinical rotation is currently at a large teaching hospital, and I also work there on the weekends. The nurses are constantly learning, and there is a lot of collaborative care going on in this environment.

Good luck in your career choice. Not everyone can or should be a nurse or a lawyer, so it's great that we all make different choices.

I am basing my views on *cough cough* on being in nursing for a long time - at least two decades. Plus a BSN and a masters.

Also concurrently having had corporate experience.

Lots of bedside plus also administrative nursing experience

I am basing my views on *cough cough* on being in nursing for a long time - at least two decades. Plus a BSN and a masters.

Also concurrently having had corporate experience.

Lots of bedside plus also administrative nursing experience

Lol. You sure you've given it enough time? :D

Another INTJ here. I always wanted to be a physicist.....

Specializes in CVICU, Obs/Gyn, Derm, NICU.
Lol. You sure you've given it enough time? :D

Another INTJ here. I always wanted to be a physicist.....

My first instincts prior to nursing school were the physical sciences, law and business.

Not all at once though :lol2:

I understand these are good fields for an INTJ.

I love geology so would love to do that.

But business would allow me to use some creative thinking skills and I would love that.

LOL it's been a long time but nursing has afforded me quite a lot of flexibility ...which the other areas don't.

Better late than never :)

Lol. You sure you've given it enough time? :D

:p That made me laugh!

Bedside clinical nursing definitely involves problem-solving - it just tends to be more pulling-the-drowning-villagers-from-the-rushing-river problem-solving versus why-the-heck-are-so-many-villagers-falling-in-the-river-in-the-first-place problem-solving. Both are valuable problem-solving skills! I'm better at the latter but if I'm in acute crisis I sure as heck want someone good at the former by my side!

Specializes in CVICU, Obs/Gyn, Derm, NICU.
:p That made me laugh!

Bedside clinical nursing definitely involves problem-solving - it just tends to be more pulling-the-drowning-villagers-from-the-rushing-river problem-solving versus why-the-heck-are-so-many-villagers-falling-in-the-river-in-the-first-place problem-solving. Both are valuable problem-solving skills! I'm better at the latter but if I'm in acute crisis I sure as heck want someone good at the former by my side!

LOL !!

I don't think we have too many nurses with the latter skills and I believe that's unfortunate .... because 'other' starts taking that up and that's bad for nursing when we lose control.

By 'other' I mean the non-nursing business managers and consultants, or even nurse leaders without much bedside and knowledge of the 'nuts and bolts' of nursing.

The processes surrounding the 'why are the villagers falling into the river' are hugely important to the practice of nursing and when the 'other' start fiddling with them ... we feel the profound effect.

However we need to wonder why the latter skill set is not nurtured, valued ...and even required, in nursing ???

If it's not considered part of the job, then we shouldn't be so surprised when 'other' takes control. :mad:

LOL !!

I don't think we have too many nurses with the latter skills and I believe that's unfortunate .... because 'other' starts taking that up and that's bad for nursing when we lose control.

By 'other' I mean the non-nursing business managers and consultants, or even nurse leaders without much bedside and knowledge of the 'nuts and bolts' of nursing.

The processes surrounding the 'why are the villagers falling into the river' are hugely important to the practice of nursing and when the 'other' start fiddling with them ... we feel the profound effect.

However we need to wonder why the latter skill set is not nurtured, valued ...and even required, in nursing ???

If it's not considered part of the job, then we shouldn't be so surprised when 'other' takes control. :mad:

What gets me is nurses who don't realise the 'why are the villagers falling into the river' question even exists. And yep, when we leave it to others to figure it out, they come up with things like flying the villagers over the river or cutting off all access to the river, rather than building a simple footbridge and teaching the villagers to swim. :rolleyes:

being a CRNA is a lot more than intubation and playing around with the anesthesia machine. As I have mentioned before, airway management is, in and of itself, an art. If it looked easy and boring, you were shadowing a good, skilled CRNA.

If you are very independent, go to anesthesia school and work in a hospital in which there is only CRNA anesthesia or where the MDAs don't smother the CRNAs. The responsibility and variety will keep you on your toes.

No two intubations are alike, no two spinals, epidurals, blocks are alike. You will encounter a wide assortment of cases, especially on call, and will use every bit of your education unless you find yourself in a "team" environment where the MDAs won't let you breathe without permission. Fortunately, those are relatively rare.

I have worked in all sorts of anesthesia environments: solo anesthesia provider, team member where the MDAs were around in the daytime but didn't interfere and actually fostered independence and acquisition of new skills, and in "team" settings in which the MDAs stifled any independent thought or action.

I like autonomy and work best in the first two types.

I had to take this test years ago before I started my statistician job. I was an INTJ then and I still am now.

As a young child, I used to people watch and listen to everything around me. It was as if the things they said or the things they were doing were pieces of a puzzle, and here I was with other pieces to their puzzle--enough to get them out of their situation. I wanted to prevent things from happening; actually, I still do. Everything was related to numbers some how. Over the years, I noticed personality trait patterns among certain groups of people.

It was in the 6th/7th grade where I learned what a geneticist does. After that, I knew I wanted to be a scientist--geneticist. But that didn't work out. So I ended up becoming a statistician.

I had a love/hate relationship with my job. After my first year I felt like there was something missing from my job. I think it was human contact. I love to learn about people. I love listening to them and watching them. I love seeing them progress in anything in life. I especially enjoy seeing children develop from infants into whoever they choose to become.

I love being an INTJ. I may not be as social as other people, but I think I have a lot to offer the nursing profession--just as the majority of us do.

Wow, I apologize for talking about myself so much--there are really a lot of "I's" in my message.

So I ended up becoming a statistician.

I'm curious about this... are you also a nurse or have a background in nursing? Did you intentionally aim to become a statistician or was it a 'just sorta fell into it' thing? What's that field look like going forward? Would you recommend it to anyone?

I enjoyed my biostatistics course in school but nursing seemed so much more practical ('always in demand'). I appreciate your sharing about your experience and I relate to it. I do best with a balance between working alone (focused, analyzing) and working with people (collaborating, directly assisting)... maybe an 80/20 balance? 70/30? In my current data management role in a health facility, I find myself leaning towards the numbers/systems side and away from the nitty gritty rubber-meets-the-road clinical aspect. However, I think I'm pretty good at translating between the gray world of clinical care (every case is different, health care provision is not an assembly line) and the more black and white world of administration (policies, check boxes, bottom lines).

I'm curious about this... are you also a nurse or have a background in nursing? Did you intentionally aim to become a statistician or was it a 'just sorta fell into it' thing? What's that field look like going forward? Would you recommend it to anyone?

I enjoyed my biostatistics course in school but nursing seemed so much more practical ('always in demand'). I appreciate your sharing about your experience and I relate to it. I do best with a balance between working alone (focused, analyzing) and working with people (collaborating, directly assisting)... maybe an 80/20 balance? 70/30? In my current data management role in a health facility, I find myself leaning towards the numbers/systems side and away from the nitty gritty rubber-meets-the-road clinical aspect. However, I think I'm pretty good at translating between the gray world of clinical care (every case is different, health care provision is not an assembly line) and the more black and white world of administration (policies, check boxes, bottom lines).

I am a student nurse.

I think statisticians will, and should, always be utilized. They are extremely valuable, especially for quality issues. They have the ability to tell a highly detailed story with just a few numbers--it's amazing and that's the part I miss. I think colleges and large corporations mostly utilize statisticians for research. If I were still interested in maintaining my old position, I would think that my future looks pretty bright, because there's not many of us anyway.

If you're looking to improve your social skills or make new friends, I would not recommend this type of career. It's like always being on the outside looking in. I didn't have many friends at my old job. I think it was because a lot of people found me difficult to connect with. I have a tendency to view my family, friends, patients, and strangers as research subjects. But since I've left my job, I'm a lot more social and I think my social skills have improved tremendously. Although, my statistician side will probably never leave me; and I would not want it to.

I hope I've helped.

Hello, I just stumbled upon your post and had to comment. I am an INTJ who is just now trying to get into the Entry-Level to the MSN program with my BS degree that I am actually nearly completing now. I was doing computer graphics for over 20-some years and for the past 14 years I have worked in Continuing Medical Education. I have enjoyed the mix of healthcare and computers and did a report in one of my classes on Nursing Informatics, which really spiked my interest. Your post does have me really taking a good hard look at whether I should pursue nursing or perhaps change gears. I am a hopeless researcher and after analyzing the INTJ personality, perhaps I am more interested in Nursing School vs. the Nursing profession. I think our type is more of a scientist, I'm thinking Biomedical Science with research may be a better avenue for me. I can spend all day on the computer researching various topics. I am currently at a 4.0 GPA and if I weren't 45 years old I would consider Medical School myself to be more challenged than with what Nursing provides. Best of luck to you. Let us know what you decide.

What's with some of the fatalism regarding INTJ and nursing? That an INTJ is likely to make a subpar nurse? Hogwash.

The test's classifications have limitations; each classification is most accurate and valid when you score highly in each of the categories. If you score low in a category (i.e. close to zero, close to the midline), your personality trait is likely to fluctuate and possibly never be that strong in either direction.

Example... I'm an INTJ. I took the full version test in adolescence, which does a good job of weighting for each category. I'm a profound IN, with a strong J, but my T is close to the midline. In practice and life, I'm usually a very rational and logical person (typical INTJ), but I'm also able to flip a switch and crank up the empathy (typical INFJ, counselor type). So I'm an INTJ, but also an INFJ.

A lot of things can be faked or acted, but not empathy or rational thought. Play to your strengths while not pigeonholing yourself too hard. Empathy is not a requirement for nursing, as shocking as that sounds. You don't need empathy to critically think. You don't need empathy to assess the medical problems of your patient. You don't need empathy to feel good about yourself after doing an awesome job. In fact, a lack of empathy should afford you with a persistent clarity of thought that many another would be envious of :devil:

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