Any INTJ personality nurses out there...I need help in choosing any advance nursing car

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I have been a nurse for 4 years, different settings such as telemetry (2 years), ER (3 months), stepdown (6 months) , telemetry float (6 month), ICU staff (1 year), ICU float (3 months)...I know that it doesn't look like a stable person's career. But here is the thing...I chose a career not suitable for my personality and still trying to figure out a way out or a way to fit into my personality. Despite all, I work with people really well because I have to pay student loans and mortgage. LOL LOL. Every unit I have worked in, my co-workers truly love me, including my managers and supervisors because I understand the system and I am extremely helpful to others but the problem is that I am forcing myself to be social and helpful to hide my true self. Over the years, I have learnt that my ways of life isn't truly accepted or understood, thus in order to have a peace of mind, I have to fit in to what is considered to be normal. It basically means I am a fake person to pay my bills...sad I know. Thus, I find it necessary to switch jobs before I offend someone else or may be before my true self is discovered. I know u are wondering who I truly am...LOL. I am a highly rational person, very intuitive and scientific and less sympathetic. But I know how to fake it or avoid such uncomfortable situations. I think things thoroughly; what they meant and their purposes. I see things in patterns. I like challenges, and hate routine work. May be that explains why I tend to switch working environments so quickly. I enjoy working hard, and sorting things out so that the system works well for everyone involved. I am a problem solver and there is nothing out there I feel I can't solve or any task out there so difficult for me to figure out. I constantly need challenges and some kind of disorganization for me to sort out and make it perfect/organized. So I choose such environments for work where I feel is highly disorganized. Very organized environments are very threatening to my personality because I feel that I am useless. As an example, my first career as a nurse is in a very prestigious hospital in NJ, very organized and very disciplined. And I never felt I was truly appreciated or valued even though I had worked really hard. This is on telemetry floor. I requested to be transferred to ER but yet found myself to be in such unchallenging situation, thus bored. So I took a travelling assignment to Washington DC where I was assigned to a cardio-vascular step down unit. I was seeing patients s/p CABG, s/P AVR and vascular surgeries including amputees....I was truly happy to work in these environments unlike everyone else. This is a level 1 trauma, high acuity hospital in Washington DC. By the way, I had felt that this hospital had lacked organization ever since I had started working as a travel nurse, because 50% of the staff in that unit was traveler or agency nurse. I had always wondered why they had high level of agency/travel nurses compare to other hospitals. I took advantage of the situation, and I volunteered to float as a telemetry nurse after 6 months of working as a cardiovascular-thoracic-vascular surgery step-down RN without realizing I would be the first floater in all their telemetry units. In my mind, I figured I would be off good use for them and at the same time I would be experiencing things I had never worked with, such as s/p PCI, s/p CABG/AVR and so on. I realized that I was the first person to do so, because I found another agency nurse complaining that someone started floating to all the units thus every agency/traveler/per-deim nurses had to start floating. I didn't identify myself as being such the person, but I was kind of surprised that the system had to change because of me. And a year later, after leaving that hospital and started working as ICU nurse, I applied to another hospital for perdiem position where they gave a personality test first. I was called for an interview with other nurses, but my interview was with the Chief nursing officer where as everyone else was with managers. And he explained to me that he was starting float ICU nursing positions for all the per diems and if I was interested in it. Mind u, I never applied for float ICU position, but respiratory care unit per diem position unit. So freaking weird...so anxious about it. I started talking to my friends of my experiences and they told me to take the myers-Biggs personality test and turned out that I was INTJ with a couple of different tests, very few of us. 1% of the population. So surprised and affirming result. I have known to feel so weird about me for long time.....I enjoy being alone, I truly don't need others for my pleasure time. I love reading and rationalizing. I am creative i.e. I enjoy drawing, painting and decorating my place constantly. I am a loner for most part. I am very good in school, and especially natural sciences and mathematics such as biology, chemistry (general, organic), and anatomy/ physiology, calculus, discrete mathematics courses and so on. I was a premed major for a couple of years before switching to computer science as undergrad, which I did really well as well. And as a second degree accelerated nursing program, I did well with 3.56 GPA. But at that time, all I was concerned with was getting a job that paid me so that I could support myself and my family. So I found nursing to be a good job without realizing what it took to be a nurse.

As I mentioned above, I work well with others at work places, even though I am a private, unsociable person. I help others...I am the first one to start new things in the working environment and the first one to teach others...whether others want to learn new things or not...I found myself most of the time against a brick stone...where nobody really cares to change the system, where as I see the opposite. And I get discouraged at times. Thus explains my continuous change of working environment...but now I am realizing may be nursing isn't really for me...but don't know what else to do with advanced nursing...I truly hate dealing with people...I like a job where it requires me to do physically and leave everyone else alone...I am very independent...but I sometimes feel like nursing doesn't allow me to be independent. The way I compensate for it is that I do my job independently but yet help everyone else who feels like they need help so that I don't get to be seen as not a team player. Even as a float nurse, I do everything myself...from patient care (thank God to the automatic rotational beds) to understanding patients' symptoms and dealing with it...I am a CCRN certified after 1 year of ICU. But surely, I am not your typical kind of nurse...Please people give me a hint on what I should do as a nurse, surely bedside nursing isn't for me. I applied to CRNA schools, a couple of them, thinking that it doesn't require socializing at all. But any other suggestions in nursing field is very appreciated. I truly need help!! I am currently in Acute Care NP program....because my advisor thought that was the right fit for me because it turns out that it's hard for acute nurses to get a job as acute nurse NP thus forced to get their DNP and eventually teach!!! LOL...that's just my thought!!!!

P.S. Don't be judgmental of my grammar and spelling...I am a bit disoriented of the wine I have had....if u don't understand, please state nicely that u don't understand...no harsh comments are welcomed, since I am highly sensitive, but very nice, understanding person....BE A NURSE AS U READ THIS!!!!!

I'm on the same boat as you guys,,I'm an ISTJ, Architecture grad, worked in the field, got bored, took up nursing, first work was in dialysis, got bored of the routine, now working as floor nurse, and it's starting to become a routine..again..i dunno maybe it's just me

Thanks for the link.....I was curious and so I took the test and it tells me I am type INFP. Says I would be best working in the humanities, specifially in psychology or counseling or teaching. Interesting as the majority of my nursing career I have worked in psych as I love it and think it is a population I am good with. And funny thing I am planning on applying for a masters program here for my Masters in Mental Health Counseling to get my LMHC! So I guess they hit it on the head. I just wish I could have known as when working in other areas of nursing I learned a lot and liked parts of it I was never really satisfied. So hey some validity to this test! lol

Specializes in PeriOperative.

INTJ here. (Highly T, very highly J). I have been told umpteen times to go to med school, but that is just not in the cards for me. I have found two specialties that I love.

1. Neurosurgery perioperative. I work in a teaching hospital, so I don't have much of an opportunity to first assist, but I do get to scrub and circulate. I have enjoyed learning all of the different procedures, and the surgeons have very high expectations. There's a lot to learn from both the surgical and anesthesia standpoint and since it is a teaching hospital, I have the change to teach the residents about the case and the surgeon's idiosyncrasies. It's also a less PC environment, which I really appreciate.

Keep in mind, many nurses who come from a diverse background tend to be bored in OR. You need to find a team that will fully utilizes and challenge you.

2. Nurse clinician. This may or may not require an advanced degree, depending on the doctor and institution. As a plastic surgery nurse clinician, I see and assess patients in clinic and give report to the MD. He often asks my opinion on the patient as a historian or of the symptoms, and encourages input with diagnosis. I do get to first assist in the OR, and do some procedures on my own (keeping scope of practice in mind). I dictate many of the clinic notes, which the MD reviews, amends, and signs off on them (same with letters to insurance companies, ratings, etc).

There is also an administrative aspect to the nurse clinician, which includes scheduling (a little harder than it sounds!), keeping track of insurance info/precert/approval for patients, and developing a plan of care that fits the patient and their financial resources (ie therapy or surgery vs conservative management).

That's me, too! I didn't last long bedside. Kudos to those of you who have and continue to do so! I'm currently working in what would probably be considered health information management. One area I've been able to become involved with is clinical documentation in relation to coding and billing, this includes working with both computer information systems, understanding the clinical picture and applying quirky coding/billing guidelines. I love figuring things out and explaining it to others. I do miss patient contact to a degree. But I also am aware of how draining that kind of work is to me, despite how satisfying it can be. I definitely enjoy having a job where I can stop and look things up or put something aside for later as opposed to front-line patient care where you just have to plough on in the face of uncertainty, limited resources, physical and mental weariness. I've considered formally pursuing informatics. We'll see. I'd love to hear others' experiences!!

Thanks for the link! It turns out I'm an ENFJ personality.

To be honest I thought this would be another bunk psychology test but I was really surprised how deadly accurate the results were!

Specializes in Pediatric critical care.

I have an INTJ personality and go back and forth and become easily bored with things as well. Nursing is a task oriented field that is very repetitive. I have no clue what I am going to do. I suggest you shadow a CRNA prior to applying to deciding on whether or not it's what you really want to do. When I was in nursing school, I loved watching the epidurals being placed and just the entire process of it was exciting and the fact that with one simple mistake you can either help or harm a person got me going about the profession. However, I shadowed a CRNA in the OR and was bored out of my mind. It was intubation and playing around with the anesthesia machine. I found myself trying to peek behind the curtain to look at the surgery. I say I am going to shadow again in another hospital because where I work CRNAs don't do OB, just OR mainly. I consider myself a lost soul and have no clue what I am going to do in the future, but I know I am ready to start school so I can get the heck away from bedside.

Specializes in Health Information Management.

I'm an INTJ on Myers-Briggs, although I don't place much faith in those sorts of tests. In the end, we are what we make of our opportunities and gifts; we aren't predetermined to succeed in one field and fail miserably in another simply due to a jumble of letters on a personality test.

That said, you might consider health information management. It encompasses a broad area - everything from coding to health informatics and data analysis to designing and working with EHR systems to safeguarding the privacy of health care records. I understand your desire for new and ever-changing challenges - I tend to master things quickly and get bored once I do, so I need a field that I can use to transition into many different challenging areas (preferably those in which I don't have to work with lots of other people all the time). My personal interests lie in health informatics and healthcare data analysis, and it sounds as though you might have similar interests. Another thought for you is the role of a clinical documentation specialist - your skills as a nurse would be extremely valuable in that role, and your talents for organization, patterns, and analysis would stand you in good stead while working to master the nitty-gritty specifics of documentation requirements and coding-related duties. Or perhaps you would enjoy planning, designing, and implementing EHR systems. That sort of thing is very in-demand and will continue to grow as more and more facilities and practices adopt electronic health records. Believe me, there's a great deal of chaos to tame in the process of developing, implementing, and maintaining a complex EHR system. Your organizational skills and talents would certainly be put to good use, and your knowledge of the real-world demands the clinicians who will be using those systems face would make you a prized commodity!

None of this may appeal to you in the least; however, at least you have some possibilities in front of you. If you're interested in healthcare data analysis and health informatics, try the website of the American Health Information Management Association (AHIMA) and look under the Certifications menu at the role of a certified healthcare data analyst (CHDA): www.ahima.org. The AHIMA and HIMSS websites (http://www.himss.org/ASP/index.asp) also have plenty of information about EHRs and the people who work to develop and maintain them. Here's a link to a description of the role of a clinical documentation specialist: http://www.psqh.com/online-articles/231-the-clinical-documentation-specialist-a-key-member-of-quality-and-patient-safety-teams.html. You can also try the website of the Association for Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialists for additional information: http://www.hcpro.com/acdis/

I hope some of that information is useful to you. Feel free to PM me with questions if you like. Good luck to you in your search.

Specializes in Pediatric critical care.

Thank you for this post. Most recently, I've looked at obtaining a master's in nurse informatics and then thought that maybe that was too specialized and decided to look at health information management. How long have you been in this field? I stopped looking at nursing informatics because while researching jobs it appeared that most were only temporary jobs and my fear is to get an advanced degree and then have to go back to the bedside once the job is no more. Any advice?

I'm an INTJ on Myers-Briggs, although I don't place much faith in those sorts of tests. In the end, we are what we make of our opportunities and gifts; we aren't predetermined to succeed in one field and fail miserably in another simply due to a jumble of letters on a personality test.

That said, you might consider health information management. It encompasses a broad area - everything from coding to health informatics and data analysis to designing and working with EHR systems to safeguarding the privacy of health care records. I understand your desire for new and ever-changing challenges - I tend to master things quickly and get bored once I do, so I need a field that I can use to transition into many different challenging areas (preferably those in which I don't have to work with lots of other people all the time). My personal interests lie in health informatics and healthcare data analysis, and it sounds as though you might have similar interests. Another thought for you is the role of a clinical documentation specialist - your skills as a nurse would be extremely valuable in that role, and your talents for organization, patterns, and analysis would stand you in good stead while working to master the nitty-gritty specifics of documentation requirements and coding-related duties. Or perhaps you would enjoy planning, designing, and implementing EHR systems. That sort of thing is very in-demand and will continue to grow as more and more facilities and practices adopt electronic health records. Believe me, there's a great deal of chaos to tame in the process of developing, implementing, and maintaining a complex EHR system. Your organizational skills and talents would certainly be put to good use, and your knowledge of the real-world demands the clinicians who will be using those systems face would make you a prized commodity!

None of this may appeal to you in the least; however, at least you have some possibilities in front of you. If you're interested in healthcare data analysis and health informatics, try the website of the American Health Information Management Association (AHIMA) and look under the Certifications menu at the role of a certified healthcare data analyst (CHDA): www.ahima.org. The AHIMA and HIMSS websites (http://www.himss.org/ASP/index.asp) also have plenty of information about EHRs and the people who work to develop and maintain them. Here's a link to a description of the role of a clinical documentation specialist: http://www.psqh.com/online-articles/231-the-clinical-documentation-specialist-a-key-member-of-quality-and-patient-safety-teams.html. You can also try the website of the Association for Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialists for additional information: http://www.hcpro.com/acdis/

I hope some of that information is useful to you. Feel free to PM me with questions if you like. Good luck to you in your search.

I'm also an INTJ. I took the text last year and a few years before that and scored the same both times.

I just reread the replies to the OP, and I love it. I too think that nursing isn't sciencey enough. I should've gone to medical school, and I was premed with my first degree. However, being that I get bored easily I wanted to move on and do other things. I was tired of school at the time so after an eight year hiatus I'm back finishing up the first of a four semeste BSN program.

Given the options, I like the emergency department as an entry level clinical environment, because I l(ike another INTJ on here) was a paramedic. That was more of a hobby than anything else just to experience "medical stuff." I also enjoyed the extra income although I never spent any of it, lol.

An administrative career, say hospital administration, would be interesting. I'm certain I'd enjoy that, at least for a while. I moved into an administrative position in my last career, and I really enjoyed all of that. Being a CRNA would be interesting. I was actually encouraged to do that when I was in paramedic school due to the interest I showed in airway management and patient monitoring. That also seems pretty intense, which appeals to me, since the level of physiology, patho, and pharm. involved is interesting. There aren't that many programs, and since I don't want to work in critical care I doubt I'll pursue that.

I'd like to have more diagnostic knowledge so I'm thinking an MSN in FNP, whether I used it or not, would be appealing. Honestly, that with a graduate certificate in healthcare administration is what I think I'd like to do in the long run.

This thread is making me nervous. I am an INTJ also. Before I even clicked on the link to take the test, I knew I was an INTJ. I could tell just by reading all of your posts. I am wrapping up my first semester of nursing school.

I'm an INTJ on Myers-Briggs, although I don't place much faith in those sorts of tests. In the end, we are what we make of our opportunities and gifts; we aren't predetermined to succeed in one field and fail miserably in another simply due to a jumble of letters on a personality test.

That said, you might consider health information management. It encompasses a broad area - everything from coding to health informatics and data analysis to designing and working with EHR systems to safeguarding the privacy of health care records. I understand your desire for new and ever-changing challenges - I tend to master things quickly and get bored once I do, so I need a field that I can use to transition into many different challenging areas (preferably those in which I don't have to work with lots of other people all the time). My personal interests lie in health informatics and healthcare data analysis, and it sounds as though you might have similar interests. Another thought for you is the role of a clinical documentation specialist - your skills as a nurse would be extremely valuable in that role, and your talents for organization, patterns, and analysis would stand you in good stead while working to master the nitty-gritty specifics of documentation requirements and coding-related duties. Or perhaps you would enjoy planning, designing, and implementing EHR systems. That sort of thing is very in-demand and will continue to grow as more and more facilities and practices adopt electronic health records. Believe me, there's a great deal of chaos to tame in the process of developing, implementing, and maintaining a complex EHR system. Your organizational skills and talents would certainly be put to good use, and your knowledge of the real-world demands the clinicians who will be using those systems face would make you a prized commodity!

None of this may appeal to you in the least; however, at least you have some possibilities in front of you. If you're interested in healthcare data analysis and health informatics, try the website of the American Health Information Management Association (AHIMA) and look under the Certifications menu at the role of a certified healthcare data analyst (CHDA): www.ahima.org. The AHIMA and HIMSS websites (http://www.himss.org/ASP/index.asp) also have plenty of information about EHRs and the people who work to develop and maintain them. Here's a link to a description of the role of a clinical documentation specialist: http://www.psqh.com/online-articles/231-the-clinical-documentation-specialist-a-key-member-of-quality-and-patient-safety-teams.html. You can also try the website of the Association for Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialists for additional information: http://www.hcpro.com/acdis/

I hope some of that information is useful to you. Feel free to PM me with questions if you like. Good luck to you in your search.

Thanks so much...very informative and very interesting. I am defint. looking at your suggestions. They seem very interesting and challenging. You sure after reading all these replies that you do not believe in the Myer-Biggs personality categories???? In every reply, I saw myself, my struggles...

Thanks all for making me feel that I belong somewhere...But overall, I am greatful to have found nursing regardless. Because it allows me to move around without really affecting my financial situation. Imagine you chose a a boring career with no fluidity and you are an INTJ. OUCH. What a miserable life, I can imagine.

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