Published Mar 27, 2013
Macruse
2 Posts
Hey everyone,
I've been looking around for some answers and have been getting mixed responses. My situation is that I do not have 4U sciences or math. My ultimate goal is to get into a BscN at Ryerson (the collaborative program with George Brown and Centennial). I applied to George Brown for Pre-Health thinking that would make up for the missed courses in high school. But I am now thinking otherwise! A little frightened... Does anyone know if Ryerson would accept a pre-health certificate instead of the 4U courses? If not, would any other University?
loriangel14, RN
6,931 Posts
Did you not look into that when you signed up for the program? Most of the prehealth programs are designed for just that purpose. Talk to an advisor at school.They are the ones that will be able to help.You can also contact the school that you want to apply to for nursing.
donk
157 Posts
I took a pre health program last year specifically to do upgrading to get into my BScN since I graduate high school long before U courses existed lol!! I'm now jut finishing up my first year of nursing and probably 1/3 of the people in my program came from pre health.
Eta- I did mine through Georgian college and am now doing the collaborative degree through Georgian/York.
brits
20 Posts
It was a complete waste of time and money. Upgrade for free through your school board.
NP-InTraining
9 Posts
Hi Brit, just to let you know, I am currently enrolled at George Brown In their pre health science program. This program was not designed to gain you acceptance into the BScN program at George Brown, they don't accept this certificate as enough to gain acceptance. They only allow you to use this certificate to get into the RPN program, some other colleges will accept it though for their BScN program but not all so you have to call around and find out who will accept it. I agree that it's better and cheaper to just upgrade through your school board and I am still considering that since I am only finishing up my first semester I may just finish and upgrade through my school board.
Best of luck in your journey
toronto_nurse
171 Posts
Hi Brit, just to let you know, I am currently enrolled at George Brown In their pre health science program. This program was not designed to gain you acceptance into the BScN program at George Brown, they don't accept this certificate as enough to gain acceptance. They only allow you to use this certificate to get into the RPN program, some other colleges will accept it though for their BScN program but not all so you have to call around and find out who will accept it. I agree that it's better and cheaper to just upgrade through your school board and I am still considering that since I am only finishing up my first semester I may just finish and upgrade through my school board. Best of luck in your journey
Unfortunately this is true as the pre-health at GBC cannot gain you admissions for the Collobrative BScN at Ryerson. You may consider taking high school courses via adult school or ILC (Independent Learning Centre). But in my opinion math and sciences are easier to grasp in the classroom setting than via distance education (internet) unless your learning style suits it. Your other option is to complete the practical nursing program and take the bridging program into the BScN either through GBC or Centennial. GBC is linked with Trent University and Centennial is linked with Ryerson but I must caution you that these bridging programs take no practical nursing graduates who fail a course or whose GPA is below a B+/B depending on the school.
Yeah, I took pre health last year but ended up dropping out upon realizing that it's just such a waste. They pretty much lied to me and said that I would need a 75 average to get into McMaster, and after second semester was over, this number went up to 85! It's alot of work for something you could easily just upgrade on your own for free.
I think alot of people take pre health because they just want to "be in school" ... But it really is just a such a waste of time. 95% of the people who take it don't continue on as they planned in the beginning.
The really crappy thing though, is that because I had taken pre health and had university credits, I was unable to just go back and get my university level credits to get into Mac. I would have to take pre health all over! It's such a scam.
In the end, I started upgrading my credits the summer of 2012 - and I was finished by early November. Happy to say I was accepted into the RPN program at Mohawk, and I start in September.
I actually did take pre Health because I "wanted to be in school" as well as upgrade my prerequisites for my BScN application. I took pre health to make sure I could learn to juggle school and family and work before I entered a 4 year degree. I figured if I found out I couldn't handle it then at least I was only out a year and a few thousand dollars instead of losing a lot more time and money. It didn't guarantee my entrance but it did help me to learn to manage my time and do my upgrading. For me it was a worthwhile experience and I found the sciences to be a great refresher since I had been out of high school for so long. I guess it depends on the person and your expectations of the program.
ceri1984
1 Post
honestly my experience with prehealth was the exact same as brits...if i had to guess i would say u took the Mohawk college one!!! lol there is no provincial standard for the program, so its not unexpected that each collage has its own experience. I think perhaps if I had taken it before they went from 4 classes-to 8...making it much more competitive- in regards to the fact mcmaster used to except a minimum of 30% of its collab students from prehealth mohawk exclusively. then there is the issue that the past few years mac has come down on mohawk for its prehealth students struggling at bscn level( as reiterated in a mac-mohawk seminar from a mcmaster nursing prof) she basically told us they were for those reasons they would not be guaranteeing any percent of accept-ants from mohawk prehealth...which was a major reason for me going there. Then in response to this criticism, Mohawk started to groom, select and promote a certain type of student....aghhhh it was great for that 10% of our classs but= a complete waste of my time and money. each teacher had a different rigorous criteria and completely over the top about every detail. I went from getting A'S at Niagara to B's at Mohawk and basically weeping over my grades.
Burgie
Pre-Health was a great way to get in to the BSCN program. The only people who will say it was a waste of money are those who were unsuccessful. I am accepted to MoMAC BSCN for Sept 2014. I worked 24 hrs a week, have a 5 year old at home and still was able to have a final average of 91%. I always heard a lot of people complaining about the work load and not having enough time. If I was able to find the time then anybody should be able to. The people that flunked were often the ones disrupting the class daily by talking and facebooking during class, asking redundant questions and handing in late assignments, if at all. If you are not applying directly from highschool the only way into the MOMAC BScN is through pre health. If you want it enough you can make it happen :)
chickpea7
72 Posts
Yes, the pre-health satisfies the requirements to do the Centennial/George Brown to Ryerson program. I actually know someone who did just that (pre-health at centennial, practical nursing at centennial, bridging, then finished up the last two years at Ryerson and is now an RN). With that said, I highly recommend you take the courses you are missing from the Independent Learning Centre. They are only $40 per class, easy, and you can work at your own pace, without having to do a ton of extra courses in the pre-health program (over-kill). Either way though, you're good.
sun2bnrse
10 Posts
I did the pre-health program to upgrade for RPN at Georgian, but I know a lot of people who were got accepted into the BScN program after completing pre-health. I personally tried to do the Independent Learning Centre courses and had a very hard time with them, especially the Chemistry (I had only taken Bio in high school). I liked being in a classroom environment, and having a teacher teaching me instead of trying to figure it out on my own and found that it prepared me for the nursing program. I was also exempted from some communications and Gen Ed's in my RPN program because you do them in pre-health. Hope this helps!