Updated: Jul 5, 2023 Published Jun 28, 2023
LEMANS, ASN
4 Posts
I was venting on reddit about this coworker who was really rude to me. I discussed the situation and included a quote that the coworker said to me about the patient. I used general statements about the patient situation such as "the intubated patient became rowdy after we suction him, therefore I couldn't give them an adequate bath and their sacral wound care was a mess. This jerk nurse fussed at me because the patients gown was not tied on right and said "this patient is a mess, also you told me that his vent settings were 30 percent not 35". The co worker recognized my post on reddit and apologize to me through DM. Did I break HIPAA and am I in trouble for this
Bug Out, BSN
342 Posts
What Information is Protected
Protected Health Information. The Privacy Rule protects all "individually identifiable health information" held or transmitted by a covered entity or its business associate, in any form or media, whether electronic, paper, or oral. The Privacy Rule calls this information "protected health information (PHI)."12
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the individual's past, present or future physical or mental health or condition,
the provision of health care to the individual, or
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and that identifies the individual or for which there is a reasonable basis to believe it can be used to identify the individual.13 Individually identifiable health information includes many common identifiers (e.g., name, address, birth date, Social Security Number).
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@Bug Out
I didn't use any of the 18 patient identifiers
Names
All geographic subdivisions smaller than a state (street address, city, county, zip code)
Dates, including birthdate, admission date, discharge date, and date of death
Telephone numbers
Fax numbers
Email addresses
Social Security numbers
Medical record numbers
Health plan beneficiary numbers
Account numbers
Certificate/license numbers
Vehicle identifiers and serial numbers, including license plate numbers
Device identifiers and serial numbers
Web URLs
IP addresses
Biometric identifiers; including fingerprints and voice
Full face photos
Any other unique identifying number, characteristic, or codes
the nurse only knew I was talking about them because of a quote I used. Therefore the patient's identity is still unknown to everyone except the nurse who privately messaged me. So would that mean that I didn't break any HIPAA laws, because technically didn't reveal any specific patient info
klone, MSN, RN
14,856 Posts
I would be more concerned about your organization's privacy and social media policy.
klone said: I would be more concerned about your organization's privacy and social media policy.
I didn't use any names, facility names, location, or unit
Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN
6 Articles; 11,936 Posts
LEMANS said: I didn't use any names, facility names, location, or unit
Your facility's policy may go beyond standard HIPAA rules and regs.
Rose_Queen said: Your facility's policy may go beyond standard HIPAA rules and regs.
I read the policy and it lines up with not naming any names and it was posted without my name. I think I am good. I just panicked a bit
MaxAttack, BSN, RN
558 Posts
Nah you're fine. That could apply to any patient in the world.
That nurse sounds super petty, though. The gown wasn't tied right? Get outta here.
Hannahbanana, BSN, MSN
1,248 Posts
No, you're not going to get your institution in trouble with the Feds for violating the privacy rule. Note that individuals are not bound as individuals by it, but if an individual violates privacy (as listed above) their institution gets hit for not training you properly and can fire you for not doing what they already explained to you about your responsibilities under that law.
Next time you want to vent online, paraphrase or say something like, “… cranked on me for something ridiculously petty that had nothing to do c pt care.” That's general enough that approximately six hundred thousand jerk coworkers might recognize themselves as guilty of jerkitude...and won't make you stand out from the crowd.
chunkymonkeyRN
6 Posts
Why the need to vent online? if you have a valid issue and it sounds like you do, then you should talk with your co-worker about it.
JKL33
6,953 Posts
LEMANS said: I read the policy and it lines up with not naming any names and it was posted without my name. I think I am good. I just panicked a bit
My comment is not about HIPAA per se, but rather what could get you in trouble, including being terminated.
You put enough online that your coworker recognized it. I am not on fakebook but presumably there are others who read your posts and also know where you work.
Instead of apologizing, if that coworker (or different coworker who had access to see your post) had showed your post to admins I can almost promise you admins would not be happy. They don't want any dirt that is remotely associated with the corporation being out there--right or wrong on their part--and they typically come down on people for posting such things.
Hopefully we have enough IRL contact with actual/real confidantes that we don't need to post the details where several hundred of our BFFs can read it?