Alternative Loans - here's what I've found

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Hi! I've been using this forum to research the different loans that people have mentioned and here's what I've found..

The first thing is if you're looking for loans to live off of the key words that you don't want to see are "borrow up to the full cost of attendance minus any other financial aid that you have received". Those are based on what your school determines is what it costs to attend school for a year and for example.. the school I'm going to attend.. after federal loans.. loans that say that will only give me $10,000. These loans fall under "cost of education loans".

What we're looking for are OUTSIDE THE COST OF EDUCATION LOANS. If a company disburses the money directly to the borrower - then it falls under this category.

Wells Fargo Ed Connection/P.L.A.T.O.

- Annual amount 1,000 -25,000/year; no origination, disbursement, or repayment fees; interest from 5.75%-15.50% (depending on credit); can decrease your interest by 0.25-0.50% with auto-debit from checking acct.; decrease interest by 0.50% after 48 consec. monthly payments; 15 year repayment; $$$ disbursed to borrower

Suntrust - eMax Loan

- Annual amount 1,000 - 25,000/year; no fees (origination); interest from 6-15.5%; decrease interest by 0.25% with auto-pay; decrease interest by 0.5% with 48 month on-time payments; forgot to write down the repayment length; never got a hold of anyone to see if it's disbursed to the borrower or school

Bank of America - Education Maximizer

- 1500 - 30,000/year; Interest is figured with the Libor Index (couldn't find an exact interest rate); origination fees from 5-10.5%; proof of enrollment; proof of income; funds sent to borrower

PNC Bank - National Collegiate Loan

- 1500 - 30,000/year; interest using Libor Index + 4.65%-7.25%; origination fees 5-10.50%; repayment up to 20 years

Sallie Mae

- 1500 - 45,000/year; 20 year repayment; funds sent to borrower; supplemental fee from 5-10%; Interest from Prime + 1.5%-6%; fees and interest depends upon credit

Wachovia - Educaid Select Loan (???)

- 5,000 - 45,000/year; no origination fees; Prime+0%; unsure if it's an outside the cost of education loan. If anyone has info about this one please add on!

There's one more loan company that I found that offers these types of loans - I'll add that at a later time - but pretty similiar to Sallie Mae I believe.

I figured I would take all my research and save some people some time. If anyone has any additional information, wants to correct me or add to what I've found PLEASE DO! I want to make the best informed decision before I owe someone this much $$$ and I'm sure others do as well. I hope this helps!

This is a great thread. One question to those already knee-deep. How much can I expect to borrow if my husband will be able to cover living expenses, and school over 2 1/2 yrs will be 45K? Our debt right now is minimal. Two car payments (one will be paid off this time next yr), less than 1000 on the credit cards, and 5K from his student loan. Any thoughts are most welcome.

My husband and I are in the same situation. We expect to only borrow the cost of tuition and will be able to cover my fall living expenses on campus through savings, ect. I expect to have about $40 through stafford loans, and hope that's the extent of my loans.

Jennie

Thanks for the info. I'm kind of in a pickle right now cause I had to quit my job for health reasons. I do have a cosigner though. Do all of these loans require you to be employed? I thought Sallie Mae was available only to people who owned a home.

Thank you for the great info!!

So it is possible to fund CRNA education entirely by loans? (Even if it may not be advisable...???)

And then some. Money should never be a worry when going to CRNA school. I always suggest atleast taking out the stafford loans. If you end up working for the VA or some other federal employer or military they will pay back $20,000 / year in federal loans (not sure what the total payout is) and trust me those that think they know where they want to work when they get our into practice most change their mind once in school. Sometimes employers will pay more towards student loans than a sign on bonus so even if you don't need the stafford put it in a CD earning 4.5 -5% interest while in school.

PNC has a new loan called the Medical Professions Loan Program that CRNA students qualify for....It's actually really good....there is no up front fees or orgination fees (Sallie Mae charges fees)...9 mos grace period after graduation...and you can defer loans up to 8yrs....and a 25 yr repayment plan....They also send the money fast....I believe within 2wks....

You can get your stafford loan with PNC as well and again unlike Sallie Mae there are no fees charged.....If you visit the website under the MPLP (medical professions loan program) You will see the stafford loan....then under that, the private loan...this is the one you get for money to live on!http://www.medproloan.com/students/about_mplp/index.html

Do you know if the check is send directly to the student?

PNC has a new loan called the Medical Professions Loan Program that CRNA students qualify for....It's actually really good....there is no up front fees or orgination fees (Sallie Mae charges fees)...9 mos grace period after graduation...and you can defer loans up to 8yrs....and a 25 yr repayment plan....They also send the money fast....I believe within 2wks....

You can get your stafford loan with PNC as well and again unlike Sallie Mae there are no fees charged.....If you visit the website under the MPLP (medical professions loan program) You will see the stafford loan....then under that, the private loan...this is the one you get for money to live on!http://www.medproloan.com/students/about_mplp/index.html

Do you know if the check is send directly to the student?

No the check is sent to the school then to you because it's a loan that has to be certified by the school.......This loan stuff gets pretty tricky and you have to be careful with the loans sent directly to you...Here's what I mean....

A loan that's sent directly to you does not have to be certified by the school...all you have to do is show proof of enrollment by your acceptance letter or something of the like...Why I'm saying tricky is because your school a long with the feds determine exactly how much you're allowed to borrow each semester for tuition, living expenses etc...This is hard to explain but I'll give it a whirl...

For example....EVERY graduate student can get a FAFSA loan (the federal loan) for $9250.00 each semester, that's a given you know you're going to get the FAFSA loan.....Ok say that your school allows you to borrow $21,000 each semester for tuition AND living expenses,and other costs....Then say you're tuition is $6000 each semester....Even though your tuition is $6000, you can still borrow the $9250 if you want all of it (most do)...What the school does is then deduct the $9250 from the $21,000 they allow you to borrow for the semester....that leaves you with $11,750 you can borrow in a private loan (certified by the school)....In addition to the $11,750 you still have what's left over from your FAFSA loan...that would be an additional $3250.....total for that semester in "living loans" $15,000....that's just for one semester then you do it all over again....I just threw in there the tuition cost etc to use as an example, every school is going to be different and your financial aid dept. has their own breakdown.

The reason I said tricky is because you're not allowed to borrow over what the feds determine with your school the amount for each semester...If you get the FAFSA loan, and the loans certified by the school....THEN get the teri loans for the $30,000....they consider that loan part of money borrowed for tuition,living expenses etc...then they won't give you the FAFSA loan....Keep in mind the teri type loans are not certified by the school and the school can't find out about it unless you tell them....We had a student who told the financial aid director that she had a teri loan and it totally screwed up her FAFSA loans for the semester....she had to pay her tuition out of the loan she got to live on....All I'm saying is that if you get a private loan NOT certified by the school....DON'T TELL THEM!!!!!!....Also, the only loans you can get that are sent directly to you are the private loans that ARE NOT certified, otherwise they go through the school....

I have no idea why they give a crap how much money you borrow to live on...it's not like a grant or something you don't have to pay back....

Also another note...the teri loans are an annual loan for up to $30,000.....they then charge you an origination fee that's tacked onto the loan amount and you pay interest on that as well.....that's kind of a rip off if you ask me....But then again if you're not working and going to school you don't really care at the time....PNC charges no origination fees and you actually end up getting more per year than the $30,000 from the teri....The difference is PNC disburst money each semester and the teri you get at one time, but you can't get it again until the next year......I would use PNC then get a teri if you absolutely need it....

Sorry this is so long (and confusing) but I tried to explain it the best way I could....it took me forever to understand the financial aid aspect of it all....

Good Luck!

I wanted to add that someone had previously posted that you can only get the $18,500 from the Stafford (FAFSA) loan for the year....There is an additional funds form you can fill out to recieve another disburstment of $9250 for a summer semester, as most or all CRNA students go year round...So you would get the $18,500 for Fall and Spring...then an additional $9250 for summer....total of $27,750 in Stafford loans for the year....Check with your financial aid dept. for the additional funds form...

Do I need to secure federal loans before I go after the Sallie Mae Tuition Answer Loan? If I got the tuition answer loan first, would it limit the amount of federal loans I am able to get? Im asking here because Sallie Mae is closed for the holiday and I didnt see the info on their website...

Maybe this thread aughta be moved over to the pre-crna forum..?

Specializes in ICU, ER, HH, NICU, now FNP.

Be aware that SallieMae does different types of loans, so just watch what you are applying for. They do both Federal and non-Fed loans. The Tuition Answer loan is the private loan.

Be aware that SallieMae does different types of loans, so just watch what you are applying for. They do both Federal and non-Fed loans. The Tuition Answer loan is the private loan.

Correct. I plan on doing the max federal to cover the bulk of tuition, and then the private loan (answer loan) to cover living expenses and anything the fed loan didnt cover. Just wondering if having the private loan taken care of before the fed loans would end up being problematic..

Hey all,

I have read through this thread a billion times now, trying to select the best loans for me. I need those that do not require school certification--otherwise it is all moot. Most schools will say the cost of school is covered by staffords (BS!)

Anyone know for sure if the sallie mae tuition answer requires school certification? I got a letter from my school saying that can't certify a loan and since I applied for 3 I am not sure which I just got hose'd out of...

Anyone clarify--for sure--which do and which do not require school certification?

Loan to learn and the START graduate loan both DO require school certification so beware!

thanks

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