Ahpra application refusal

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Hi everyone,

I´m a registered nurse from Germany with 4 years experience. Went to the whole registration process with ahpra and waited 7 months. Today I received an email, that they are considering to refuse my application. The reason for that is, that they do not consider my training as equivalent with the Australian one. That is really a joke. Has someone ever been in this situation before? How did you write your appeal letter?

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To Zimon - I have sent you an email. Hope this will help. Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks :)

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Thanks Lisbeth!

Yeah ceridwyn, it is mindboggling to say the least. From what I understand the ANMAC letter of determination was the foundation for the reggo as well. But that may have changed when the boards went from state specific to nationwide. Not sure though. But yeah, I've got a letter of determination from ANMAC stating my education is at least on par with the australian one, and I'm well on my way of getting a permanent visa based on my skills. I just won't be able to use them at all in Australia if ahpra says no.

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Thanks for the reply. Stinks, and wonder if immigration know they are giving PR visa,s out to people who cannot work in their field so technically are not skilled in Australia by their registration board even though the immigration assessments board says yes, has anyone told ANMAC or AHPRA and DIAC what's going on I wonder?

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I have spoken to someone who works at IMMI, (unofficially) apparently you still need to supply the AHPRA registration, along with the ANMAC assessment to be part of the EOI expression on interest based on skills select criteria for Registered Nurse, because thats what you must be in Australia, a Registered Nurse. Whacky I know that 2 areas of nursing have to be assessing.

If no certificate of Registration from AHPRA in your expression of interest, then it will not be considered for a PR visa invitation. Thats what I have been told.

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you still need to supply the AHPRA registration, along with the ANMAC assessment to be part of the EOI expression on interest based on skills select criteria for Registered Nurse, because thats what you must be in Australia, a Registered Nurse. If no certificate of Registration from AHPRA in your expression of interest, then it will not be considered for a PR visa invitation. Thats what I have been told.

Well, in fact that is not the truth. There is actually no need to have an AHPRA registration for getting assessed as a RN. The assessment is based on your (overseas earned) skills.

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Today I bring my appeal against the proposed refusal to UPS. Two kg of supporting documents and really hard work. Mainly it's based on two comparisons:

1) the Australian Standards of Nursing vs. the EU directive and the German standards

2) the content of an Australien accredited Bachelor in Nursing degree vs. the content of my German training

Besides the comparison I refer to the National Law (which is the actual base due to the removal of the IQN Framework AHPRA still refers to!), that may differ from state to state, in specific to Section 53(b) where is stated "or similar competencies".

Additionally I refer to Section 303©. Have anyone had a look on this before?

If AHPRA still refuses my application I'll take a lawyer. In my opinion we have currently a good chance, because there is no Framework in use anymore (as showed on the NMBA website) and AHPRA still grounds their desicions on it! As long as AHPRA makes errors in the process, there's a possibility to use it, because they violate against the law. Just my thoughts.

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Good luck,, sounds good.

You can put in an expression of interest, but you will not be considered for a visa, this is according to the person who works at DIAC explained to me, even if you already have been assessed by the professional organisation for your skills for immigration.

this was his quote "there is absolutely no reason to give someone a skills visa when they cannot work. One of the criteria for the skills visa, expression of interest is if your job needs to have a license, then you must have it before an invitation is offered""

He may be wrong perhaps, if you have a skills visa but your skill is not recognised by the licensing authority, but thats all have been told.

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Well ceridwyn, I guess this is more telling of your friend at immigration then anything else. I have sent in my eoi and gotten approved to apply and am currently in the application phase of the skilled visa.

I think ANMAC are doing a good job with their assessments. They do provide you with all the criteria needed to make a proper application and how they view the competency from nurses of different countries, so that you have a chance of knowing before you apply, and pay, if you might get approved or not.

AHPRA in my opinion is acting very unprofessional and borderline banana-republic style institution in the way they change assessment criteria on the fly and refuse to provide the paying applicants with the basic information needed for a complete application

Just my 2c

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So the "points test" that is being used does not include ahpra reggo as a criteria, only approval by Australian Nursing and Midwifery Accreditation Council.

Which i weird enough if you ask me. Asking for both would take the weird to a whole other level. Why would they even have an ANMAC if all that counts is ahpra reggo.

But I'm not as naive as to try to apply logic to a government framework. It only makes your intellect cry ;)

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But hopefully, none of this matters and I'll be approved by ahpra as well :)

PS. Please @ceridwyn, don't use your secret contacts att IMMI to crush my dreams :(

Ds

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danapal - good luck with your appeal. I see that you have taken the comparison a step further. I hope my information helped you in the process? I would be very interested to see the comparisons you made. I, myself, haven't had a look at section 303.....

When can you expect to have your appeal assessed?

gamer_s - good luck to you too. :)

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danapal - good luck with your appeal. I see that you have taken the comparison a step further. I hope my information helped you in the process? I would be very interested to see the comparisons you made. I, myself, haven't had a look at section 303.....

When can you expect to have your appeal assessed?

Thanks, of course it helped, at least me. Don't know whether it "helps" AHPRA ;)... However, the parcel of documents will arrive end of next week. Don't know what happens then. How do I get this details? Will email you for the other stuff.

Cheers

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