ADNs get hired in NYC?

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It seems like most of you who work in NYC have you BSNs... how likely is it to get a job here with an associates?

Thanks.

Specializes in Case Mgmt, Med/Surg, NICU, Ambulatory.
I haven't met one RN in NYC,at least, that hasn't found a job. However, 20% seems like it could possibly be believable due to our current economic crisis. Are these RNs turning down Nursing home jobs etc.?

I find it VERY hard to believe that RNs have ANY trouble finding a place to work. I live here in NYC and personally know of MANY places who are taking new grads with their AA. Even right across the border in Jersey there are SEVERAL positions available.

Yes, many places will prefer a BSN over an AA, but what not always. If someone wants a Registered Nurse but wants to pay 10-20k less a year...they are going to go with someone with an AA.

Do you know anyone personally who is a Registered Nurse (w/ their AA) and unable to find a job? What do they find is their biggest roadblock?

It has always been my experience that a BSN grad in NYC will probably make $1500-2000 more than an ADN unless the RN is working with a permit. The recruiters I've dealt with have always made this clear, on paper. It is my understanding that LPN's usually make 10-20k less than the RN right out of school. I am not sure what pay scale they use in the nursing home setting, as I've never search for employment there.

:saint:I just want to restate that this is my experience as well as the 14+ RNs and LPNs I know personally :)

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I haven't met one RN in NYC,at least, that hasn't found a job. However, 20% seems like it could possibly be believable due to our current economic crisis. Are these RNs turning down Nursing home jobs etc.?

I find it VERY hard to believe that RNs have ANY trouble finding a place to work. I live here in NYC and personally know of MANY places who are taking new grads with their AA. Even right across the border in Jersey there are SEVERAL positions available.

Yes, many places will prefer a BSN over an AA, but what not always. If someone wants a Registered Nurse but wants to pay 10-20k less a year...they are going to go with someone with an AA.

Do you know anyone personally who is a Registered Nurse (w/ their AA) and unable to find a job? What do they find is their biggest roadblock?

I keep in touch with several from my class who are still looking. Many of them can't even land interviews with HR recruiters let alone an interview with a NM to gain a position. BSN's will be taken over an AAS degree and there seems to be enough BSN's to fill the available positions. The pay difference seems to be about $1500-$2000 more for a BSN. Not sure what their thoughts are on LTC but they are open to med-surg positions. I personally would rather go to a hospital setting instead of LTC but I can't speak for them. I do believe the economic situation has a lot to do with it and many hospitals in NYC are on hiring freezes right now.

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I haven't met one RN in NYC,at least, that hasn't found a job. However, 20% seems like it could possibly be believable due to our current economic crisis. Are these RNs turning down Nursing home jobs etc.?

I find it VERY hard to believe that RNs have ANY trouble finding a place to work. I live here in NYC and personally know of MANY places who are taking new grads with their AA. Even right across the border in Jersey there are SEVERAL positions available.

Yes, many places will prefer a BSN over an AA, but what not always. If someone wants a Registered Nurse but wants to pay 10-20k less a year...they are going to go with someone with an AA.

Do you know anyone personally who is a Registered Nurse (w/ their AA) and unable to find a job? What do they find is their biggest roadblock?

That statement above is completely untrue. Although I have a BSN degree, I can tell you that an ADN nurse makes the same if not just 1K less than a BSN nurse in 99% of all hospitals if and when they are both new grads starting.

If you are an ADN nurse with 1 year's worth of experience, they will start you at the same rate that they will start a new grad BSN nurse.

For instance, say NYU starts their nurses with "0" years of experience at $70,500, yet they advertise that a BSN degree will get you $1,500 more, while a new grad with a BSN will get $72,000 starting, an ADN nurse with a year's worth of experience will also get the same $72,000 as well since they have a year's worth of experience that has to be compensated for based on their pay scale.

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That statement above is completely untrue. Although I have a BSN degree, I can tell you that an ADN nurse makes the same if not just 1K less than a BSN nurse in 99% of all hospitals if and when they are both new grads starting.

If you are an ADN nurse with 1 year's worth of experience, they will start you at the same rate that they will start a new grad BSN nurse.

For instance, say NYU starts their nurses with "0" years of experience at $70,500, yet they advertise that a BSN degree will get you $1,500 more, while a new grad with a BSN will get $72,000 starting, an ADN nurse with a year's worth of experience will also get the same $72,000 as well since they have a year's worth of experience that has to be compensated for based on their pay scale.

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I know you were speaking hypothetically in the above statement, but I've been told by several people attempting to get a job at NYU that they only hire BSN's and this is going back almost 2 years ago when I graduated.

North Shore-LIJ Health System hires ASN's/ADN's and I do not believe we are in a hiring freeze at this time. Things could change soon enough though, I'm sure.

During this difficult economic time, new grads are going to have to take what they can get, get their one year experience and then go back out and try to get a job that they find more desirable. It's better than not working, not making money and potentially losing some of the skills you've learned in nursing school. Just my :twocents:

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1500 - 2000 break that down in a year its like what ..150 a month? Is it worth the thousands extra in tuition? I intend on continuing my education regardless. I just wanted the ADNs to feel better about getting pennies less, why was it brought up to begin with? no idea. YES you can find a job. I go to NCC and their nurses are extremely hireable, so ive been told. I also met a few grads who had a job ready for when they graduated.

Dont worry ADNs, although the economy got hit hard it will bounce back and nurses in general will always have a job ..somewhere

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I think the hospitals that are affiliated with a university that has nursing like NYU or Columbia has always preferred BSN's, but that didn't mean that they wouldn't hire ADN's at all. I think nowadays with the hiring freezes and the flood of applications that these hospitals are getting, they can be picky and they are requiring BSN's, but I can't see this lasting very long. They need nurses, whether they are BSN's or ADN's.

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I dont know how I missed this when it was originally posted however I am one of those who are unable to attain a position as a RN in ANY dept....geez I haven't received ANY callbacks either.... ! So to the one who found it hard to believe, it's true, unfortunately.

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Does anyone have any thoughts on foreign nurses being hired here in NYC?

Is it me, or does it seem that preference should given to citizens first? I find it awfully sad that anyone would be out of work while others are being pulled in from different countries and given work.

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I am one of the ADN nurses here in NYC who cannot get a job, and I've literally tried everywhere (including New jersey). I have been told by nursing recruiters that hospitals here are looking for BSN grads or experienced RN's at this time. I still apply to any and every position that says RN, because after all that's what I am right? Whether 2 year or 4 year I am an RN and worked VERY HARD to become one. This blog was started in January and now 8 months later, IT REMAINS THE SAME. I have not received one call yet, just emails of rejections mainly from Mount Sinai and New York Presbyterian. It's just a shame that it comes down to this and I'm so sick of everyone saying "oh, your a nurse, you'll get a job like that". I'm trying to be patient and positive but the two are running very thin. Anyone who opposes my experience or knows of any vacancies that will take my AS/ADN please LET ME KNOW! Sorry for the tone of my message but I'm very stressed, who can afford to be out of work now? Not me!:banghead:

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Remember reading somewhere that NYC and indeed NYS are the most costly places to build and run a hospital. Because the cost of living is so high, nurses and others must be paid more to attract, hence methinks hospitals are keeping a lid on costs by hiring only when required.

Consider also there has been much upheaval in the NYC hospital scene. Within the past few months two hospitals in Queens closed, and within the past year or so before several more closed both in Queens and Brooklyn. These closings not only reduced the slots for nurses, but sent many experienced nurses out into the job market.

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Specializes in ICU / PCU / Telemetry / Oncology.

Last reply to post was almost a year ago ... bumping this thread, as I am curious to know if anything has changed in the interim or rather if anything has changed for the better or worse or stayed the same.

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Specializes in Tele, Medsurg, Stepdown.

I'm curious too. Seems like I picked an awful time to move to the city.

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