ADN vs BSN Managers

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Specializes in Med-Surg/Pedi/ICU/Tele/Onc.

Don't get me wrong. I'm an ADN. However, our nurse manager is an ADN in a BSN program. What I was curious about is what difference you think an ADN vs BSN has when in management. Our manager seems to have multiple faults including blatant favoritism, back-stabbing and diarrhea of the mouth. What experiences have you had with each and do you think it really matters in the long run?

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I think that your manager's issues have nothing to do with her education and everything to do with her character.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Don't get me wrong. I'm an ADN. However, our nurse manager is an ADN in a BSN program. What I was curious about is what difference you think an ADN vs BSN has when in management. Our manager seems to have multiple faults including blatant favoritism, back-stabbing and diarrhea of the mouth. What experiences have you had with each and do you think it really matters in the long run?

*** My old nurse manager had a PhD and behaved the same as yours. I think it has nothing at all to do with their education. I also don't think it matters at all wether a manger has an ADN, BSN, MSN, or PhD. A good manager is a good manager.

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Specializes in ccu cardiovascular.

I agree.

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Has nothing to do with her education. I've had wounderful ADN, Diploma nurse managers and terrible BSN managers. It depends on the person.

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Specializes in Med-Surg/Peds/O.R./Legal/cardiology.

I also agree that it has nothing to do with the degree one has. It has everything to do with the ability to understand people and situations, fairness, and professionalism, as well as technical skills. A degree does not a manager make.

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Specializes in Nursing Professional Development.

I totally agree that a bad person with a lot of education is still a bad person ... and a good person with less formal education is still a good person.

However ... education provides people (good or bad) with knowledge and tools that can be used on the job. The best person to be the manager would be a good person with the knowledge and tools that an advanced education can provide.

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Specializes in Med-Surg/Pedi/ICU/Tele/Onc.

True...her personality has everything to do with it. I just thought more education, classes...something would help! I'm very disappointed in her actions, but don't really want to leave my job. With the rate of turnover for managers on our unit she'll be done in another year or so. I'll just do MY JOB until then!

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Specializes in Med-Surg/Peds/O.R./Legal/cardiology.

Doesn't your hospital provide management classes for the NM's? These are ongoing and are required in my area of the woods.

Just hold on. I'll bet this too will pass! GOOD LUCK!!!!

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Specializes in Med-Surg/Pedi/ICU/Tele/Onc.

She has talked about management classes, but I don't know for sure if she has gone.

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Specializes in Med-Surg/Peds/O.R./Legal/cardiology.

Well, if she has, it sounds like they didn't "take". ;)

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Crispy, just don't let her fry your already charred butt anymore.

Rise above.

And fuhgedaboudid.

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