The U.S. taken another beating in the other thread re our societal and corporate attitudes re vacation/personal time off.
I feel like a bit of a fraud to join in that pity party.
I didn't get much the first year back to work but after 1 yr I earned approx 2 1/2 weeks/year and then since my 5 year anniversary, I take three 1 week long vacations and several long weekends per year. This on top of a good income and excellent working conditions. Several of my coworkers have taken 2 weeks without any hoopla for their big vacations but being a single mom I can't afford to take my kids on vacation to Europe, one a week at a time works best for us. If I talked to my manager about needing to take a month next year, they would try to make it work.
I had my babies back in the days of nurses not easy to replace and so my maternity time off was only limited to our financial planning, or lack thereof. I had some sick/PTO time plus my 6-8 weeks of SDI, if my then husband and I had planned better ie if he had a work ethic, I could have taken off as much as I wanted and there would have been a job for me. As it was I took those 6-8 weeks off without blinking.
That's weird. I worked HR for 5 years before I was a nurse and never saw a policy like that. So, for an 8 hour shift, half is unpaid and 4 hours are PTO? I work weekend overnights so I lose a substantial amount of differential when I call in or take vacation. But I get the full 8 hours PTO.
I've never heard of an 8 hour shift in a hospital. I get 8 hours paid at base rate out of 12 if I call in sick. We work 84 hours a pay period. Ymmv by institution.
I would check into your state law regarding this. In some states, it is illegal for you not to be paid out your accrued PTO upon leaving.
This is from a website called workplace fairness: [h=3]have accrued vacation time/sick time/personal leave days that I will not use before leaving my company. Is the company required to pay me for that time?[/h]It depends on where you live. 24 states—Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island (after one year of employment), Tennessee, West Virginia, and Wyoming—and the District of Columbia require that your employer include any unused vacation pay that has accrued (that you would have been entitled to use) in your final paycheck. In the rest of the states, there is no state law that requires your employer to pay you for accrued vacation leave, although your employer may do so voluntarily, or may have to do so if required by a policy or contract.
I'm not in one of of those states, so no luck for me. I work for a large company though that does have facilities in 9 of the states on that list. Now I get why the policy has that disclaimer "except as where required by law" tacked on to the end.
This is from a website called workplace fairness: [h=3]have accrued vacation time/sick time/personal leave days that I will not use before leaving my company. Is the company required to pay me for that time?[/h]It depends on where you live. 24 states—Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island (after one year of employment), Tennessee, West Virginia, and Wyoming—and the District of Columbia require that your employer include any unused vacation pay that has accrued (that you would have been entitled to use) in your final paycheck. In the rest of the states, there is no state law that requires your employer to pay you for accrued vacation leave, although your employer may do so voluntarily, or may have to do so if required by a policy or contract.
I'm not in one of of those states, so no luck for me. I work for a large company though that does have facilities in 9 of the states on that list. Now I get why the policy has that disclaimer "except as where required by law" tacked on to the end.
Very interesting. I do work in one of those states and my facility only pays out a portion of accrued time.
i used to take 4-week vacations yearly during my first 3 years in nursing, then everything changed and my workplace now only lets us take up to 3weeks max, which is really not enough vacation time if one is travelling out of the country at that time. Nowadays, earned PTO gets eaten when one uses it to cover for standby/low census days....
I've never heard of an 8 hour shift in a hospital. I get 8 hours paid at base rate out of 12 if I call in sick. We work 84 hours a pay period. Ymmv by institution.
Many hospitals have 8 hour shifts. Both hospitals I worked at had a combination of 8 and 12 hr shifts available to staff. The only units that didn't use 8s were ER and ICU, as I recall.
Very interesting. I do work in one of those states and my facility only pays out a portion of accrued time.
Is your time divided into vacation, holiday and sick time? As I understand it, at least in my state, employers are not required to pay for sick time, so that may be how they get away with it. My state has a law that you must be paid for any unused vacation time when you leave a job but also allows for "use it or lose it" policies, meaning employers don't have the allow you to carry your time over from one year to the next.
Is your time divided into vacation, holiday and sick time? As I understand it, at least in my state, employers are not required to pay for sick time, so that may be how they get away with it. My state has a law that you must be paid for any unused vacation time when you leave a job but also allows for "use it or lose it" policies, meaning employers don't have the allow you to carry your time over from one year to the next.
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I've never heard of an 8 hour shift in a hospital. I get 8 hours paid at base rate out of 12 if I call in sick. We work 84 hours a pay period. Ymmv by institution.