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Inquring minds want to know--
What are the different entry levels into nursing, and the different nursing titles in other countries? I have seen other terms, such as enrolled nurse that I am not familiar with.
I'll start- in the US we can go into nursing via 4 different routes -
RN- Registered Nurse
BSN (Bachelor of Science in Nursing) - 4 year college degree
ASN (Associate degree of Science in Nursing) - 2 year community college degree
Diploma- 2 or 3-year hospital based school
LPN or LVN (licensed practical nurse, licensed vocational nurse) - 1 - 1 1/2 yr. community college program.
Now, I want to hear from my AllNurses friends in other countries--what are your titles and nursing education, and anything else you want to share, such as certifications?
Thanks!
Originally posted by spineCNORThanks for all the very interesting information! semstr, what about midwifery in your country? Do midwives have to complete a basic nursing program first, or can they go directly into a midwife program?
There are two ways to become a midwife.
Either after you finish basic nursing programs, it takes 2 years, or go the direct way, then it takes 4 years.
Glad to be of help with this information! Whenever you want to know more, just ask! Take care, Renee
PS: rstewart, you're very welcome too and I am glad you enjoy this board as much as I do.
Here in Sweden there are "undernurses" a CNA I think, they draw bloods, do caths, change dressings (they have to have a written delegation to do these) and do bedside care, they are not allowed to administer meds of any kind in hospital settings. In community care in homes and such they are allowed to do some meds.
There are nurses working who have done the old program which required you were a "undernurse" first and then 2 years university study directly to your speciality psych or somatic illnesses, if you wanted to work in both you did 3 years. This is the course I took.
Today's nurse's course does not have the undernurse requirement and is 3 years at university.
Then you can take 1.5 years more to become a psych nurse, a community care nurse or a midwife.
I am adding on to my old 2 year university course with a year to have the same qualifications as the nurses they turn out today. I dream of midwife one day.
Originally posted by P_RNSo in several countries you can't transfer from specialty to specialty without going back to school for another certificate? For example in the UK.....Reg. Mental Nurse.....you hate your job....you can't just go to the maternity floor and ask for a transfer?
Thats right. There is some opportunities to work within mental health if you are learning disability trained and vice versa but thats about it. Im a learning disability nurse however I eventually want to work in midwifery, this means going back to uni for 3 years to train as a midwife.
Originally posted by P_RNSo in several countries you can't transfer from specialty to specialty without going back to school for another certificate? For example in the UK.....Reg. Mental Nurse.....you hate your job....you can't just go to the maternity floor and ask for a transfer?
that is how it works here with the old program but there were only the two specialities ( psych and somatic) .. the new one is supposed to give them a broader qualification ..and as there is a huge nursing shortage they will be getting jobs on wards they are not (imo) trained for .. Lets hope the on the job training is good.. the hospitals have started offering trainee programs that give you a mentor for a year .. smart move
some of my classmates will be excellent nurses, some are disinterested silly immature girls that are there for all the wrong reasons ..
ok vent over
karenG
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more on uk...........
the nurse practitioner qualification is a 3yr degree at batchlors or masters level. you need to be an experianced nurse to undertake this course.
Practice nurses finally have a career pathway- its a one year batchelors similiar to that undertaken by district nurses and health visitors. can also be at masters level.
you can also undertake a clinical practice teachers qualification- again at masters level now!
at this rate, we might as well take a medical degree and have get a decent pay!!
Karen