The title says it all. I am a RN with a CCRN and CEN and am proud of that fact, I have worked hard for these certifications. One of the RN's I work with on my unit has failed both test on multiple occasions. The employer we work for has a deadline for us to complete these certifications (2 years) and if not completed by then we are terminated .
One of the RN's we work with has falsified their CCRN and CEN certifications so that they would not get fired. First I suspect the AACN and BCEN don't take this lightly. The AACN site states that to verify an RN's certification a signed release form from the RN needs to be submitted with the request. We then checked the "AACN congratulations to our newest members" online. (every month in the AACN magazine they publish the newest CCRN nurses.) Their name was not published their.
Can someone please guide me in an appropriate and anonymous way to deal with this. If you have any insight into this matter that would be greatly appreciated.
besides, I don't think sitting around and looking for someone to be recognized online is a little petty, you could use that time to be a more qualified nurse. but if you feel this person is doing something wrong it is your job to confront them and ask them to prove their status. someone has to protect the patients and those who think that this is ok because the market is tight. Well I wonder far you are willing to go to get a position you want. The distance to go is education hard work and good patient care. that will elevate your status and advanced your career.
besides, i don't think sitting around and looking for someone to be recognized online is a little petty, you could use that time to be a more qualified nurse. but if you feel this person is doing something wrong it is your job to confront them and ask them to prove their status. someone has to protect the patients and those who think that this is ok because the market is tight. well i wonder far you are willing to go to get a position you want. the distance to go is education hard work and good patient care. that will elevate your status and advanced your career.
protect the patient from what? please give examples of how not having the ccrn/cen certifications is harming the patients when those rns who are currently not certified yet and has 2 years to obtain them are still considered safe until 2 years later?
i am not saying forging certifications is okay but going online and checking monthly to see if the names appear is just too much. if this op is so concerned, then why not check all rns in the hospital to see if they have the appropriate certifications? the op's intention is evil because he probably has beef with this rn and wants her fired.
plus, those accused rns may very well be certified and not just sharing the info with the coworkers because they don't have to. they just have to inform management. when i get my bsn, i won't share it with my coworkers. now, these coworkers of mine can accuse me of the same thing when they see me sign bsn after my signature.
protect the patient from what? please give examples of how not having the ccrn/cen certifications is harming the patients when those rns who are currently not certified yet and has 2 years to do is still considered safe until 2 year later?
i am not saying forging certifications is okay but going online and checking monthly to see if the names appear is just too much. if this op is so concerned, then why not check all rns in the hospital to see if they have the appropriate certifications? the op's intention is evil because he probably has beef with this rn and wants her fired.
angel, rn
i agree with this post. if a rn is given up to two years to get the certs, but still working and taking care of patients under her/his rn license, how is that harming a patient? if the hospital felt this way, maybe they should have only hired those rn's who currently have those certs upon initial employment.
and something tells me the op and some of his co-workers (indicated by "we looked it up" in the op) is not looking up every other rn's certs online that he work with. it's just something about this particular rn.
Without more detail as to why, exactly, the OP has decided to investigate his co-worker's credentials, it's hard to judge whether we're seeing a conscientious professional trying to protect the public from an imposter or a vindictive type out to nail someone to the wall.
The question in my mind is, if the association requires a signed release to confirm credentials, why would he assume that the "congratulations" page includes everyone who has passed and not just those who have signed releases? If it does, it would seem to defeat the purpose of requiring a release, wouldn't it?
In any case, I agree with the advice to mention to the manager - perhaps in writing cc'd to risk management - that there's a rumor of someone faking credentials, without mentioning a name. This should trigger a general review of credentials and not explicitly target a specific individual, perhaps unfairly.
It's early, yet ... maybe the OP will be back to clarify the situation.
plus, those accused rns may very well be certified and not just sharing the info with the coworkers because they don't have to. they just have to inform management. when i get my bsn, i won't share it with my coworkers. now, these coworkers of mine can accuse of the same thing when they see me sign bsn after my signature.
the op needs proof, that's all i'm saying.
angel, rn
not to mention, the rn may have the certification, but listed under a different last name. i have my rn license under a different last name than what i work under. if someone was to look me up on the bon by my work name, i'm not listed under it. i'm quite sure someone's already done that.
i plan on getting my certification in my area of nursing and it will be listed under the same name as my rn license.
I am not saying that a nurse who is working on the cert and has not received it yet is endandering patients, what I am saying if there is a nurse out there that is knowingly misrepresenting themselves, is a potential danger to anybody. If you go to school and become a nurse, you did that for a reason, if you do that and then are will ing misrepresent yourselve to patients, family members and managers, the nurse field your colleges and so on, then what else are you capable of doing or not doing correctly, If someone has failed this cert twice, then is it not for a reason to be concerned of their skills and if they are misrepresently themselves are they not capable of misrepresenting anything.. This is no small issue..... IF in fact this person is really doing this.. we have no proof that this person is doing anything wrong..do we. we are discussing a hypothetical situation, if we have no proof this is actually happening.. so with that said, and this is just a hypothetic situation then you must agree that someone that would go through so much trouble to be something they are not, could be dangerous.. On my other point, I think that someone that is looking online everychance they get to see if someone is being recognized is somewhat petty, because like it was said the person could have a different name, or any other number of reasons why their name can't be found or seen. Also, I have seen many of hospital rules and regulations I don't agree with. But if someone is working in a dept that requires a cert. then that is the rule and is there for a reason, but at the same time. a dept should not hire someone and then give then 2 years to qualify.. there should be an in house educational unit if this is the case to make sure that these candidates obtain the quality education this dept is requiring. if that was the case and this nurse still could not pass, then don't you think that they should be looked at a little closer, If you can obtain your RN and get a job on a specialty unit that requires a cert, but then could not pass the exam in two years,,how did they pass their RN education and how do we know that this rn is not misrepresenting their RN?
To the author of this thread. MYOB. What is your business with her certification. YOU WAKE UP EVERYDAY THINKING ABOUT SOMEONE ELSES CERTIFICATION. I will advice you call the person aside , if you are really bothered and talk it out, if you not a COWARD. Read your hospital policy concerning procedures for reporting issues. How old are you by the way?
There has been 33 post on this issue,i am wondering why the author hasn't come back on site to say something. Author used the word "WE SEARCHED/CHECKED", this is just to show, they don't really like the Rn, and they all ganged up against the Rn. This is pure evil. The author and co are COWARDS and really need to MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS. EVIL PEOPLE.
OP, I'm a little stunned by the majority response to your situation and I'm sorry for it.
I understand where you're coming from. Had I earned professional certifications and knew someone who had falsified the same designation, I would likely have been the one asking this question. I believe that there is likely much more to this story than you are able or willing to share (and no, I'm not referring to bad blood between you two or a witchhunt as others have implied). Remember, we are not talking about someone who just decided to fake the required certification; rather it is a nurse who has tried repeatedly to earn the designation. That says to me that the nurse is not capable of delivering the care that her (fake) designation implies.
That, to me, is serious, and worthy of discovery by the employer and the designating organization.
To all of you who are righteously indignant about OP's question and keep repeating "well, it's not like she falsified her RN license." How would you feel if you were working alongside an LPN who regularly passed herself off as an RN to all of her patients and their families? (Of course, it would be impossible for the employer to be fooled, but to all who met the nurse on a daily basis, the level of nursing education was inflated.)
I'm thinking you all would have a very different reaction to that situation. To me, they're the same.
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besides, I don't think sitting around and looking for someone to be recognized online is a little petty, you could use that time to be a more qualified nurse. but if you feel this person is doing something wrong it is your job to confront them and ask them to prove their status. someone has to protect the patients and those who think that this is ok because the market is tight. Well I wonder far you are willing to go to get a position you want. The distance to go is education hard work and good patient care. that will elevate your status and advanced your career.