A Message to the Nations Nurses

[NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN]

Dear SchmalRN:

Thank you for your kind words. I did notice the school group from my area and saw the thumbs up from my pearch on top of the capital steps. it was my first time in Harrisburg, but won't be my last.

Please request Rep. Adolph to sign onto the Mandatory OT Legislation being introduced by Rep. Surra. Because is it proposed legislation, it does not yet have an assigned bill # until it has cosigners. I can send you copy of this legislation if desired. Individual letters make for a powerful voice especially if they come from the constituents=voters of district.

The other big concern is SBON keeps no workforce statistics: how many of PA licensed RN's actually work in this state; amt FT and PT employment, # of RN + LPN's planning to retire or leave profession. This information is vital to know workforce #'s so one can plan for anticipated staffing needs. Thanks. Karen

[NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN]

Dear SchmalRN:

Thank you for your kind words. I did notice the school group from my area and saw the thumbs up from my pearch on top of the capital steps. it was my first time in Harrisburg, but won't be my last.

Please request Rep. Adolph to sign onto the Mandatory OT Legislation being introduced by Rep. Surra. Because is it proposed legislation, it does not yet have an assigned bill # until it has cosigners. I can send you copy of this legislation if desired. Individual letters make for a powerful voice especially if they come from the constituents=voters of district.

The other big concern is SBON keeps no workforce statistics: how many of PA licensed RN's actually work in this state; amt FT and PT employment, # of RN + LPN's planning to retire or leave profession. This information is vital to know workforce #'s so one can plan for anticipated staffing needs. Thanks. Karen

[-jt]

"How about the basic core issues of better pay, respect, and empowering individual nurses to make changes directly at our work places? "

Maybe you havent read past this BB or even glanced at the iniatives but thats all in there... under WORKPLACE RIGHTS.

[-jt]

"How about the basic core issues of better pay, respect, and empowering individual nurses to make changes directly at our work places? "

Maybe you havent read past this BB or even glanced at the iniatives but thats all in there... under WORKPLACE RIGHTS.

[SchmalRN]

I emailed you, NRSKaren, about getting info on that legislation. I do want to write to Bill Adolph. THanks!

[SchmalRN]

I emailed you, NRSKaren, about getting info on that legislation. I do want to write to Bill Adolph. THanks!

[Barbara Rose]

No, wildtime, I am not new. I have been reading the posts, yours as well as the others. I did not suggest run to washington, I suggested individual involvement. By the way, yes, I have been to the ER lately; I was there with my husband who was seen by a FNP who did not identify himself because he wanted the patients to think he was a doctor. Even had the nerve to try and fool me, but one of the other workers knows me, so he apologized. Well, that didn't help the other patients and if he is ashamed of being a nurse, he needs to do something else.

Nurses are always hard on each other. That has to stop; with the ANA, with individuals, and in the work place. IF AND WHEN that happens we can change our profession, otherwise we just keep covering the same issues. Same book, different chapter, etc. I contend that each individual must make an attempt to better the profession, then as a whole come together. Seems easy enough in theory, but hey, I only have a 2 year degree, have worked for 20 years and started out as a nurse aide, so what do I know?

[Barbara Rose]

No, wildtime, I am not new. I have been reading the posts, yours as well as the others. I did not suggest run to washington, I suggested individual involvement. By the way, yes, I have been to the ER lately; I was there with my husband who was seen by a FNP who did not identify himself because he wanted the patients to think he was a doctor. Even had the nerve to try and fool me, but one of the other workers knows me, so he apologized. Well, that didn't help the other patients and if he is ashamed of being a nurse, he needs to do something else.

Nurses are always hard on each other. That has to stop; with the ANA, with individuals, and in the work place. IF AND WHEN that happens we can change our profession, otherwise we just keep covering the same issues. Same book, different chapter, etc. I contend that each individual must make an attempt to better the profession, then as a whole come together. Seems easy enough in theory, but hey, I only have a 2 year degree, have worked for 20 years and started out as a nurse aide, so what do I know?

[natalie]

wildtime,

Over, and over, and over, and over, ad nauseaum, this is your overriding theme:

"As you can see from this BB there are ANA supporters who refuse to accept defeat and who chastize anyone who dares speak anything negative about the ANA."

Why do you think in terms of "accepting defeat"? What the hell motivates you? What do you envision? Get on with it, if it's fruitful.

Give yourself a little respect.

[natalie]

wildtime,

Over, and over, and over, and over, ad nauseaum, this is your overriding theme:

"As you can see from this BB there are ANA supporters who refuse to accept defeat and who chastize anyone who dares speak anything negative about the ANA."

Why do you think in terms of "accepting defeat"? What the hell motivates you? What do you envision? Get on with it, if it's fruitful.

Give yourself a little respect.

[Level2Trauma]

Originally posted by wildtime88:

Barbara Rose, you must be new around here.

Do not give me a lecture about what individual nurses need to do. If you would have read my posts from a month ago you would have seen me saying the same thing and you would have also seen me getting blasted by a few of the ANA members for the idea. I even offered a feasable plan but that two was blasted by ANA supporters. It seems that there are ANA supporters who only want to do things the ANA way. The same way ANA has been doing things for the last 100 years without results. We are still in the same basic shape they were a century ago with the same complaints.

The only solution they wanted was for everyone to join the ANA and push for the legislation which has been proposed or get out and march on Washington or State capitals.

AS far as the public's respect, that is nice but evedently you have not spent much time in an emergency department to see the other side of the coin. I know who's respect we as a profession need to change our basic working conditions. Do you really think we are going to get it by running to Washington? We will get the same respect as we gave to the little kid who went crying to mommy or daddy that we all knew when we were children, none. The truth is that the ANA had the perfect opportunity to lead and empower individual nurses and in the process could have gain a lot of respect from nurses themselves, but what did they choose to do? Run to washington themselves. The nursing profession is only as strong as it's self declared leadership. The ANA is weak and ineffective at changing the basics and so is our profession as a direct result.

Wildtime, It just may be that there have been nurses like you around for a 100 years. This may actually be the root of the problems faced by nurses today. Too many want to run their mouth without providing any solid action. As much as you piss, moan, and groan about the ANA on the BB, you can't possibly have any time left for constructive work. It is attitudes like yours that keep the nursing profession marred up in mud. Give it a break, join an organization (any organization) and fight for change. But for the sake of nursing, DO SOMETHING BESIDES RUN YOUR MOUTH!!!

[Level2Trauma]

Originally posted by wildtime88:

Barbara Rose, you must be new around here.

Do not give me a lecture about what individual nurses need to do. If you would have read my posts from a month ago you would have seen me saying the same thing and you would have also seen me getting blasted by a few of the ANA members for the idea. I even offered a feasable plan but that two was blasted by ANA supporters. It seems that there are ANA supporters who only want to do things the ANA way. The same way ANA has been doing things for the last 100 years without results. We are still in the same basic shape they were a century ago with the same complaints.

The only solution they wanted was for everyone to join the ANA and push for the legislation which has been proposed or get out and march on Washington or State capitals.

AS far as the public's respect, that is nice but evedently you have not spent much time in an emergency department to see the other side of the coin. I know who's respect we as a profession need to change our basic working conditions. Do you really think we are going to get it by running to Washington? We will get the same respect as we gave to the little kid who went crying to mommy or daddy that we all knew when we were children, none. The truth is that the ANA had the perfect opportunity to lead and empower individual nurses and in the process could have gain a lot of respect from nurses themselves, but what did they choose to do? Run to washington themselves. The nursing profession is only as strong as it's self declared leadership. The ANA is weak and ineffective at changing the basics and so is our profession as a direct result.

Wildtime, It just may be that there have been nurses like you around for a 100 years. This may actually be the root of the problems faced by nurses today. Too many want to run their mouth without providing any solid action. As much as you piss, moan, and groan about the ANA on the BB, you can't possibly have any time left for constructive work. It is attitudes like yours that keep the nursing profession marred up in mud. Give it a break, join an organization (any organization) and fight for change. But for the sake of nursing, DO SOMETHING BESIDES RUN YOUR MOUTH!!!