WGU MSN in 6 months - page 3
Is it possible to do the msn educator program in one term 6 months? In a way that's 2 quarters, so it would be 15 units per quarter. If the student is able to handle all the load, is it possible to... Read More
Nov 15, '12 by SweettartRNQuote from mclennanI just started the MSN in Nursing Ed Oct 1st. Here are my impressions, pros & cons:
1. Pro: one of the few accredited, well-regarded NON-PROFIT schools out there that isn't out to suck up Pell/Fed financial aid
2. Pro: designed to be SO easy and user friendly, a monkey could pass with a degree
3. Pro: high Mormon quotient on staff in SLC, so SUPER friendly customer service
5. Con: all grades are pass/fail so there's no GPA and your credits won't transfer to most brick & mortar/terminal degree programs that aren't WGU. True story. Very sad. Think hard about if you're going to pursue more schooling after WGU and where. WGU at this time provides a "letter" to schools explaining their "pass=B" policy but most won't accept that, they want letter grades and GPAs. BEWARE of this. I hope they modify this practice sometime in the future, because when all these WGU students decide they want to get DNPs and PhDs at non-online schools they'll be essentially SOL.
6. Con: the quality of writing from other students is pretty atrocious. Painful, sometimes, to read the message boards. And, as it is in most of our sad society, people have a propensity to use the boards and assignments to a) brag about themselves b) talk a lot about their religion. It gets tedious. I don't really give an R.A. about your decorated military service, your many sparkling professional achievements, your children or your church. Just write what the assignment is asking and get it over with.
7. Con: many scholarships won't fund online degrees. This might change, but there are growing pains in the academic world caused by the advent of online education. Scholarship entities are struggling to keep up. I had a heck of a time begging for money, because so many refused to fund online degrees. I thank the vulture-capitalist, for-profit schools for that, *cough* U of Phoenix *cough* DeVry *cough* what?
TONS of students doing WGU are also parents, so a lot of their stuff panders to that. It's keenly felt by us non-parents, believe me. If you aren't "struggling" with or "juggling" work, school and kids you won't be able to identify with about 99% of other students. I wouldn't point this out if it wasn't always presented as if these people deserve medals for their choice. Sorry, you chose parenthood, work and school. You're no more special or stressed out than anyone else. It's great you belong to a big club and have people to talk to, but remember not everyone is the same. I sometimes wish WGU didn't sell themselves so hard on that angle!
I take VERY strong offense to you implying that a monkey could complete this program. I worked VERY hard to complete my program and busted my ass.
You stating that it's so easy a monkey could do it is extremely harsh and offensive, and you should choose your wording more carefully next time.
Nov 15, '12 by SweettartRNQuote from stepnurse01I had no challenges with the Capstone except not understanding what they wanted a couple of times. I tend to take things very literally so that hurts me from time to time.SweettartRN... 7.5 months is amazing. Thanks for answering my post. Did you have any challenges with the Capstone project? Are you planning to continue your education? Do you know of any other nurses that have completed their WGU degree and have been accepted into a Nurse Practitioner program? I am inspired by you all!
And contrary to the hateful monkey speech, it is NOT easy. It is challenging, but it is worth it.
Nov 15, '12 by confuzhnQuote from marycarneyWhat is the "IRB" process? What is "IRB"?No - and this is the reason: in the MSN Education Specialist program, you complete a capstone which requires TWO IRB approvals, one from the facility of study and one from WGU. This is a lengthy process. Also, the capstone itself requires multiple revisions, each one taking approximately one week in the grading system.
Nov 16, '12 by SweettartRNQuote from confuzhnInstitutional Review Board.What is the "IRB" process? What is "IRB"?
Basically a permission slip to do your research there.
Nov 16, '12 by goodstudentnowRNI just sent in my IRB and almost complete the first two chapters of my thesis. I will be done pretty soon.
Nov 17, '12 by metroishkaI take offense to the monkey reference also. I am almost done and it was not easy and was very time consuming. Unless things have changed, there are no discussion boards requiring a person to post either an assignment or a reply. There are community boards that you can participate in, and there are opportunities to post your thoughts in some of the courses of study, but these are not required. Any of them that I have read are hardly atrocious in their content or delivery. Are you sure you are really attending WGU mclennan?
Nov 17, '12 by mclennan, BSNUm...yeah....definitely attending WGU MSN program. Sorry it's easier for some and harder for others. I am not busting my ass or being challenged at all. Everyone is different, but seriously, if you are struggling through a program this simple, I am sorry. It requires very, VERY basic research and writing skills that any of us should have learned in high school and nursing school - and that's about it. Get real. It's not that hard.
Nov 18, '12 by SweettartRNQuote from mclennanUm...yeah....definitely attending WGU MSN program. Sorry it's easier for some and harder for others. I am not busting my ass or being challenged at all. Everyone is different, but seriously, if you are struggling through a program this simple, I am sorry. It requires very, VERY basic research and writing skills that any of us should have learned in high school and nursing school - and that's about it. Get real. It's not that hard.
You are unreal.
And probably one of those on the "secret" Facebook page asking for answers and getting ticked when you get emails from WGU about cheating.....
Just my $0.02.
Nov 18, '12 by metroishkaQuote from mclennanHow many courses have you done since October 1st? It can't be too many, and if it is, then I applaud you for your ability to fly through the program with ease. Most of us are going back to school to learn something and are taking advantage of the opportunities WGU offers to EARN our degree. I'm only jealous that you know it all already and don't have to work for it.Um...yeah....definitely attending WGU MSN program. Sorry it's easier for some and harder for others. I am not busting my ass or being challenged at all. Everyone is different, but seriously, if you are struggling through a program this simple, I am sorry. It requires very, VERY basic research and writing skills that any of us should have learned in high school and nursing school - and that's about it. Get real. It's not that hard.
Nov 18, '12 by SweettartRNQuote from mclennan90% of my assignments in courses require posting a short reflection or essay to a message board, and/or responding to other students' postings. Everyone in the course can see and read everyone's posts, and there are hundreds of posts per course.
No way in hell are you at Western Governors University.
If you were then you would know that 99% of all coursework is papers and tasks that are graded through Taskstream, and that you rarely, if ever have to participate on the message boards.
I don't know where you're at, but any other school where I have had to participate on nothing but message boards has been a piece of cake.
WGU is not.
Nov 18, '12 by Mommy2beMcclennan, there is no way in **** you are a WGU student. First of all, you posted on the wrong board, because ALL of us on here that have completed or attended WGU are friends and have completed the program. You are uninformed to say the least. There is absolutely NO discussion boards to post on, your grade is determined by your papers and some tests that are video recorded or taken at a testing site.
Also, 90% of other colleges accept WGU. I finished my BSN in October last month, and now I am starting a FNP program in December with no problems what so ever. Obviously, for whatever reason, you are trying to downgrade WGU and steer students away.
People use boards and assignments to brad about themselves? *****...are you serious. This statement alone confirms you are not a WGU student. A lot of the boards are bare to say the least, and most of the professors and course mentors are the ones that post responses to a lot of the questions.
Most of the WGU students are parents? Really? And where did you get your information from? Most of the people going back to school in general are parents....but trust me there is a lot at WGU that I know personally that have no kids and struggled.
High Mormon quotient on staff! Are you kidding me! I actually have no response to this ignorant statement.
To all the people considering WGU....GO FOR IT. This has been one of the most pleasant experiences and is truly one of the best and most supportive schools out there! There is actually a few people from WGU that hae gone on to CRNA school and have been accepted! So don't listen to the fraud Mcclennan, who probably works for another college!Last edit by Esme12 on Nov 19, '12 : Reason: TOS/profanity
Nov 18, '12 by Mommy2beQuote from mclennanThis proves you do not attend WGU. Unless they changed something in the last WEEK, there is no responses to message boards. Your grade is determined by writing papers to assess your knowledge. Do us all a favor and join a discussion in which your are talking about the correct college, NOT WGU! Its almost not even worth defending your idiocy, since you are so far off from WGU's course content.90% of my assignments in courses require posting a short reflection or essay to a message board, and/or responding to other students' postings. Everyone in the course can see and read everyone's posts, and there are hundreds of posts per course.
Nov 18, '12 by mclennan, BSNI can assure you with 10000% accuracy and truth that I am a full time MSN student at WGU. The two classes I've completed both required posting to a message board as part of the class content: reflective exercises and critical thinking commentaries. My mentor has told me she and other faculty check these boards, and our participation is a small part of the overall grades. Many components of the course state: "share you thoughts on the message board & respond to at least one other student's posting." This is not the "community" boards I'm talking about. SMT2 and NFT2 both required this, in addition to the Tasksteam assessments. Which weren't hard either. And for the record, I've never even been on their Facebook page, because I don't do Facebook - period.
The course message boards are chock full of people who ramble on and on about their military service, sparkling work history, children and struggles, often more so than the course topic at hand. It gets pretty tiresome.
Overall it's a good deal for the price. I'm doing it to get the piece of paper I need to get the heck away from bedside, for the cheapest price. I am sorry so many of you can't swallow the truth: most college education, anywhere, in any form, are exercises in BS, requiring little critical thought, intellect or real pedagogy these days to pass. They want your money, you want the degree, they make their process almost impossible for that NOT to happen. Regurgitate the words they wanna hear in your little papers, use APA correctly and you'll get your Pass grade. Same thing at any school. College has been and is, pretty much a joke in this country for decades - with the rare exception here and there. Come on folks......you can't be that naive. It's all pretty meaningless hoop-jumping.
My own enrollment specialist is Mormon, and he himself told me over half the staff at HQ are Mormon. They're physically located in Salt Lake City, for crying out loud! That's not ignorance. That's the truth and I think it's great! You don't believe me? Ask them yourselves. If you have a problem with that, it is YOU who is ignorant, not me.
Funny how many get their knickers in a twist because someone thinks differently than they do. Fine nurses you must make!