Just Amazed

  1. 5 I can't believe how rude teachers / staff are. I had 13 kids in my clinic. An asthma attack, 2 head injuries, a fever, 2 peepee pants etc, etc. STANDING ROOM ONLY!! One staff member comes in wanting me to check her blood pressure because she is just curious to know (no complaints at all). Another teacher questions why I told the kid with broken glasses to come back later. Ughhhhh, do you not see the kid in the corner turning blue around the lips? That's why! Another teacher comes demanding to know why I am keeping the peepe pants kid so long because he is missing a test. Well, blue lips in the corner over there and I ran out of all clothes 2 months ago. Seriously I am one person! Somebody is going to have to wait. Why do people at school think everything should be done t the drop of a hat? I am waiting for the day when I am performing CPR and somebody tells me I need to stop because there is a kid with a paper cut who desperately needs my immediate attention. Ok, vent over! Thanks for listening.
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  3. Visit  Jolie profile page
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    Thank you, Father above for guiding me to a district/schools where I am respected and supported by teachers and administration alike.

    That said, I admire you for maintaining your composure with those teachers. I would not have been kind, patient or respectful, and probably would have had to stay after school and write 100 times, "I will be nice to the teachers, no matter how clueless they are."

    I would have handed the peepee pants to the teacher and told her to deal with it. There is no special healthcare knowledge or skills involved in providing clean clothing (which I assume she is just as able to conjure up as you are) and that child deserved privacy while you attended to the truly sick in your office. Time for a discussion with the educational staff. They need to take care of non-emergent issues while you tend to life-threatening crises, and you won't pull kids out of testing for eye exams. Deal?
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    Here's my vent: I really don't like you using the phrase "peepee pants", I mean seriously?
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    Quote from PetsToPeople
    Here's my vent: I really don't like you using the phrase "peepee pants", I mean seriously?
    Here's my vent right back:When you have a nursing license, a national certification in school nursing, and have actually worked in a busy urban school district you may be a little bit more understanding. Have fun in nursing school and remember we come here to support each other and not break each other down! I mean seriously?
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    Quote from SchoolNurseTXstyle
    Here's my vent right back:When you have a nursing license, a national certification in school nursing, and have actually worked in a busy urban school district you may be a little bit more understanding. Have fun in nursing school and remember we come here to support each other and not break each other down! I mean seriously?
    You go girl! That poster was waaay out of line. Anyway I totally understand how you feel. I felt so bad when I was called to recess for a suspected injury to an ankle but I had to say wait because I was dealing with two diabetics in my health room who needed my attention right away. All about prioritizing.
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  7. Visit  ChristineAdrianaRN profile page
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    *blink* What's wrong with "peepee pants"?
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    Quote from SchoolNurseTXstyle
    Here's my vent right back:When you have a nursing license, a national certification in school nursing, and have actually worked in a busy urban school district you may be a little bit more understanding. Have fun in nursing school and remember we come here to support each other and not break each other down! I mean seriously?
    I've noticed that on AN when someone doesn't have a decent comeback, they resort to "your not a nurse yet so you can't possibly have any input". Fine, then not as a nurse, or student nurse, but as a parent, if I heard you refer to any child, especially my child as a "peepee pants" I would not stop until I had your job, how's that? Grow up and find a more appropriate phrase that won't hurt the feelings of your "patients" if they over hear it.
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    Quote from ChristineAdrianaRN
    *blink* What's wrong with "peepee pants"?
    The fact that you would ask means it would be a waste of time to explain it to you. It sounds exactly like what another student would call one who has had an "accident" to make fun of or tease them.

    Never mind, moving on, because some times you have to cut your losses and realize "you can't fix stupid".
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    Quote from SchoolNurseTXstyle
    Here's my vent right back:When you have a nursing license, a national certification in school nursing, and have actually worked in a busy urban school district you may be a little bit more understanding. Have fun in nursing school and remember we come here to support each other and not break each other down! I mean seriously?
    I do support you, in everything else you said except for the inappropriate phrase of "peepee pants". And I am having fun in nursing school, as a matter of fact I am having a blast, making excellent grades and my last clinical instructor said I was way ahead of where a student nurse would be at this time, so thank you. I have no problem supporting fellow nurses when they act in a professional manner and therefore are deserving of said support.
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  11. Visit  Jolie profile page
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    Quote from PetsToPeople
    I've noticed that on AN when someone doesn't have a decent comeback, they resort to "your not a nurse yet so you can't possibly have any input". Fine, then not as a nurse, or student nurse, but as a parent, if I heard you refer to any child, especially my child as a "peepee pants" I would not stop until I had your job, how's that? Grow up and find a more appropriate phrase that won't hurt the feelings of your "patients" if they over hear it.

    You did not hear the OP refer to anyone by a derogatory name. Neither did anyone else, because those words were never uttered. You came to a discussion board intended for school nurses and read a post in which she vented about a particularly frustrating situation in which educational staff members failed to recognize or acknowledge the life-threatening nature of a student's condition. You then proceeded to chastize her for expressing said frustration to her fellow school nurses on the BB in a way that you do not like.

    If the OP had indeed remarked out loud about a student's peepee pants, you wouldn't need to "have her job," it would already be long gone, and rightfully so. But that is not what happened, so such threats are out of place.

    I am not aware of any participants here who rely on "comebacks." We post here to vent and share ideas, not rip each other, because we understand the frustrations, working conditions and situations that we all share. We also recognize that the use of edgy language and imagery here is a means of blowing off steam, and does not reflect any of our actual habits in professional practice.

    Any and all are welcome on this board, students included. But when students or the uninitiated choose to criticize rather than ask questions, they run the risk of exposing their own lack of knowledge, experience and understanding. Your harsh commentary would tend to indicate that you have no better understanding of the initial situation than the staff members who complained about the inattention to wet britches and broken glasses as another student struggled to breathe. A lost opportunity to learn about cooperation, prioritization and emergency care.
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  12. Visit  PatMac10,RN profile page
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    Quote from PetsToPeople

    I do support you, in everything else you said except for the inappropriate phrase of "peepee pants". And I am having fun in nursing school, as a matter of fact I am having a blast, making excellent grades and my last clinical instructor said I was way ahead of where a student nurse would be at this time, so thank you. I have no problem supporting fellow nurses when they act in a professional manner and therefore are deserving of said support.
    I agree with your statements. As a guardian or parent, if someone said that and my child or younger sibling came home crying because they heard something like that I would be absolutely livid! No o am only 19 and sm most definite not a parent. I am however an active older sibling who have to confront staff and students who were bullying my brother who is very quiet. To be sure, though the op didn't say that verbally during the situation, im sure she was just using that to describe the situation to us here. She was venting as we must all do sometimes. However, as a fellow student nurse enjoying NS, if my any of my instructors ever heard me refer to a client that has peed on themselves in such a manner, or called a psychiatric patient "crazy" in clinical or class they would give out an unsatisfactory and send me home. We have had it happen twice to other students already. No one says it was easy, but we as nurses and aspiring nurses must maintain professionalism in all aspects of our career. That's why nurses are one I'd the most trusted and respected professionals because they are empathetic.
    Last edit by PatMac10,RN on Apr 14, '12
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    On another point, it's sad that the OP has a lack of support, no wonder she might be frustrated. I've worked in the float of a local hospital. Since I turned 18 a year and half ago. Most of the time on in the ED and people don't realize that we must prioritize care. People can be selfish at times. Also, when it comes to all nurses I think it is important to realize that this a community where nurses talk about nursing, and honestly. But it is also a community for ALL Nurses, meaning those licensed, or yet to be licensed. So when we "vent" we ate at risk for someone venting about us venting! People come here to get the truth , but people also come here to tell us the truth. The truth about there experiences with nurses and the like. Sadly, "comebacks " are used, whether people wish to see it or not. Not just here but on SDN, and other forums because people get offended or have their own opinion. As long a people can agree to disagree peacefully, then go for it. I am not necessarily saying that this was the case here though, even though that what the situation lends itself to.
  14. Visit  SchoolNurseTXstyle profile page
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    Quote from Jolie
    You did not hear the OP refer to anyone by a derogatory name. Neither did anyone else, because those words were never uttered. You came to a discussion board intended for school nurses and read a post in which she vented about a particularly frustrating situation in which educational staff members failed to recognize or acknowledge the life-threatening nature of a student's condition. You then proceeded to chastize her for expressing said frustration to her fellow school nurses on the BB in a way that you do not like.If the OP had indeed remarked out loud about a student's peepee pants, you wouldn't need to "have her job," it would already be long gone, and rightfully so. But that is not what happened, so such threats are out of place.I am not aware of any participants here who rely on "comebacks." We post here to vent and share ideas, not rip each other, because we understand the frustrations, working conditions and situations that we all share. We also recognize that the use of edgy language and imagery here is a means of blowing off steam, and does not reflect any of our actual habits in professional practice.Any and all are welcome on this board, students included. But when students or the uninitiated choose to criticize rather than ask questions, they run the risk of exposing their own lack of knowledge, experience and understanding. Your harsh commentary would tend to indicate that you have no better understanding of the initial situation than the staff members who complained about the inattention to wet britches and broken glasses as another student struggled to breathe. A lost opportunity to learn about cooperation, prioritization and emergency care.
    Thank you so much Jolie for your support and UNDERSTANDING as a licensed and experienced school nurse. To the holier than thou nursing students : When did I ever state that I called these children peepee pants to their face? It was a " description" in a post! I have no problem with sharing thoughts and info with students, this site is for everyone! However, you have to give respect to get it! I am a campus nurse, I mentor new school nurses, I have a lot of school nurse friends. All of us use the term peepee pants "amongst ourselves." Our lives our dedicated to caring for these children, none of us would ever treat them with anything but with TLC because that's what school nurses do. I remember being on these boards when I was a student and thinking some posts sounded harsh. Now, I have what you guys just don't have yet! Real live independent nursing experience and that brings a different understanding to the table. You'll see!
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