BSN as entry into practice; why we decided against it. - page 18

While hopefully avoiding stoking the ADN - BSN debate unnecessarily, I thought I'd share my experience with my state's consideration of BSN as entry into practice, as well as the BSN-in-10... Read More

  1. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    [QUOTE=Ntheboat2;7063110]
    Quote from tokmom

    I don't see that any facility would hire an RN whose main role is butt wiper when they could pay someone much less to do just that.
    So, I can only find that you are unaware of the different nursing care delivery models. BECAUSE THEY DO PAY RN'S TO DO THIS!!!!

    omg.
  2. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from Ntheboat2
    When have I EVER (ever, ever) said anything about floor nurses needing a master's degree??
    Again, reading comprehension, it's what's for breakfast. At this point you apparently have no idea what you were even defending. Go re-read and get back to me, masters promoter.
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    [QUOTE=redhead_NURSE98!;7063129]
    Quote from Ntheboat2

    So, I can only find that you are unaware of the different nursing care delivery models. BECAUSE THEY DO PAY RN'S TO DO THIS!!!!

    omg.
    I said, "they could pay someone much less to do JUST THAT."

    You may want to take your own advice on reading comprehension. The keyword in that sentence was "just."

    Here's your sticker.

    Oh yeah, "main role" was another key phrase that was bypassed.
    Last edit by Ntheboat2 on Dec 8, '12
  4. Visit  Ntheboat2 profile page
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    Again, reading comprehension, it's what's for breakfast. At this point you apparently have no idea what you were even defending. Go re-read and get back to me, masters promoter.
    You obviously have some poster's names confused because I have not once in my life said that bedside nurses need a master's degree. Either that, or you are having trouble with the comprehension piece again. If you can find one time where I ever said a bedside nurse needs/should have/would be better with a master's degree or anything of the sort then I'll change my name to butt wiper.
  5. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    [QUOTE=Ntheboat2;7063137]
    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!

    I said, "they could pay someone much less to do JUST THAT."

    You may want to take your own advice on reading comprehension. The keyword in that sentence was "just."

    Here's your sticker.

    Oh yeah, "main role" was another key phrase that was bypassed.
    Yep, and "just that" only has one meaning.

    I can't really explain the other way "just that" can be read. At this point I'd just be trying to teach a pig to sing.
  6. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from Ntheboat2
    You obviously have some poster's names confused because I have not once in my life said that bedside nurses need a master's degree. Either that, or you are having trouble with the comprehension piece again. If you can find one time where I ever said a bedside nurse needs/should have/would be better with a master's degree or anything of the sort then I'll change my name to butt wiper.
    No actually I don't need to do that at all. If you want to jump in defending others' posts, then maybe you should read all of the posts so you know exactly what you're defending. Don't know what to tell ya.
  7. Visit  Ntheboat2 profile page
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    [QUOTE=redhead_NURSE98!;7063156]
    Quote from Ntheboat2

    Yep, and "just that" only has one meaning.

    I can't really explain the other way "just that" can be read. At this point I'd just be trying to teach a pig to sing.
    You'd have better luck teaching a pig to sing than you would with finding a post where I ever said bedside nurses should have a master's degree. That's for sure.

    You know, it's really ridiculous that just because someone doesn't agree on ONE particular issue (oh...like the ADN/BSN as entry into practice, for example) that every other topic has to be misconstrued, misinterpreted, have information omitted, etc. just to raise an argument even where there isn't one.

    There are plenty of actual things that have been said to disagree about without creating arguments that don't exist.
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    No actually I don't need to do that at all. If you want to jump in defending others' posts, then maybe you should read all of the posts so you know exactly what you're defending. Don't know what to tell ya.
    Just because I agree with the fact that there is and will be a shortage of nursing faculty (because, well...it's true) doesn't mean I have to agree with every post that the initial member who posed the topic has ever made.

    Again, it's possible to agree with someone on one point without agreeing with every point they ever make. It's also possible to disagree with someone on one point (or several) without disagreeing with every single thing they say.
  9. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    [QUOTE=Ntheboat2;7063015]
    Quote from tokmom
    Who do you think wipes them when the CNA's are cut?[/QUOTE

    An even better question is, why do you wait for the CNA to be cut to wipe them?
    I believe she interpreted this answer as personal to her rather than the greater question of "if an RN sees poop should she just go ahead and deal with it herself or wait for the CNA" which I guess is what you were getting at there?

    I just left the mangled quoting the way I found it. :-)
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  10. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from Ntheboat2
    most people who are going to get a master's degree in nursing are going to be an NP or do something where they are paid MORE than a floor nurse, not less.
    *** All or most of the the dozens of RNs I have known who went to NP school took a pay cut to do it. They went for a better schedual, not more pay.
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    [QUOTE=Ntheboat2;7063162]
    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!


    You know, it's really ridiculous that just because someone doesn't agree on ONE particular issue (oh...like the ADN/BSN as entry into practice, for example) that every other topic has to be misconstrued, misinterpreted, have information omitted, etc. just to raise an argument even where there isn't one.
    Projecting.
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    Quote from PMFB-RN

    *** All or most of the the dozens of RNs I have known who went to NP school took a pay cut to do it. They went for a better schedual, not more pay.
    An initial pay cut but over five years it more than balances out. NP isn't about the money for most, it's about taking the next step.
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    xxxxx
    Last edit by Susie2310 on Dec 8, '12

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