Forensic Psychiatric Nursing: A Unique APRN Opportunity

This is an article about my locum tenens assignment at a state run psychiatric forensic facility. Patients are committed here for an average of seven years. As a provider, with a two month assignment, I learned about patients who have crossed the line into criminal activity during psychiatric decompensations and strategies to help them achieve stability. Specialties Psychiatric Article

After thirty years psychiatric nursing experience in various roles, locum tenens is perfect for me. When I want to work, I sign up with a few agencies, tell them my availability and hope something will come through. This time I can only work in 2 month blocks- a normal assignment is three months so I was not sure anyone would take me for only two months. Luckily my recruiter found me a spot.

"The position is in corrections." She said. My husband was immediately worried about my safety. I had my interview and I found out the facility was a forensic hospital, not a correctional setting and that I would have inpatient responsibilities. I have many years of inpatient experience working as a staff nurse and a manager. This will be my first inpatient experience as a provider.

After a week of orientation mostly about HIPAA, and using the computer system, I start on the units. I have two inpatient units and one 4 hour block of outpatients. I am on transition units where patients are preparing for discharge to the community. They work at least 15 hours per week at on campus jobs, go to groups, and have privileges to go outside, some alone.. For admission to the facility patients are committed by a judge as mentally ill and dangerous. Many of these patients have caused harm to other people, usually when they were not taking medications or were abusing substances. The average length of stay is seven years and the patients home community has input into advancing privileges and determining discharge.

My role is to do a psychiatric interview and review psychiatric medications at least every three months on my assigned units. On the inpatient units, this is called "rounds". Patients are invited in one at a time by appointment. Several staff are in the room to observe or participate in my interview. I have never interviewed patients like this before. One of the social workers told me she likes to come in the room to make sure the patients are giving me the correct information and this can be helpful. A pharmacist is there also, to take notes and sometimes participates. I try to talk to her before or after my time with the patient so I am not distracted by medication information during my interview. Since I am doing the assessment and making the medication decisions, I have to make sure I am comfortable. I also put in my own orders which is a change for them. Because of the cumbersome computer system, previous locums had operated using mostly verbal orders which were inputted by either the nurse or the pharmacist.

There is a shortage of psychiatric providers at this facility. Systems like the pharmacist taking notes, which are minutes of the interview, and verbal orders are a way to provide some continuity and compensate for the shortage. I am the sixth psychiatric provider in two years. They are recruiting and in the meantime I learn a lot.

The main things I learn about are high dose neuroleptics, polypharmacy, and clozapine. Traditional psychopharmacology tells us to streamline medications. With these patients, it is not entirely clear if patients could do as well on lower doses or if they need the high dose for stability. There also seem to be a lot of negative symptoms of schizophrenia, ie poor motivation, blunted affect, which one of the psychologist says is not treatable with medication. My research tells me medication is worth a try but I am not there long enough to introduce this. I wonder if some patients are overmedicated but I am reluctant to adjust doses very much because of being new, unless, of course it was clearly indicated. And I become proficient in laboratory guidelines for long term medication monitoring.

Every patient has a primary MD who has been treating them for years and each patient gets a comprehensive physical every year. These MD's are readily available for consultation. The pharmacists are also available for consultation and also seem to like attending my rounds. There are also other professionals including psychologists, social workers, nurses, and security counselors. I found out later that there are some psychology fellowship classes I could have attended if I had known about them.

I am scheduled to return to this facility in a few months. Locums gives me the opportunity to learn. When I return, I look forward to getting a better understanding of high dose neuropletics and polypharmacy and I may try to medicate negative symptoms . Or since I now know the system, I may be assigned to an acute admission unit where I will learn about rapid titrations of psychiatric medications and ordering seclusions and restraints. If I come back to this unit, I will better be able to treat the patients since I have interviewed everyone at least once and have the trust of some of the staff.

Forensic psychiatry is not a popular area of psychiatry. Many of these patients are severely and persistently mentally ill and have crossed the line into criminal activity. They are well care for at this facility as the long term psychiatric patients which they are. Many of them will never be able to live in the community. In the old state hospitals and if they hadn't committed a crime, many of these patients would have stayed for years living in a community within the hospital. Some may have been discharged to group homes with case management. Some of my forensic patients may also be discharged. Evaluating stability, degree of outpatient containment and likelihood of relapse is very challenging and the focus of much of their treatment.

Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.

I've worked state, federal and also on a good ole fashion inner city acute unit and they have all had plenty of forensic patients so for anyone interested you don't have to look far.

Specializes in psych, general, emerg, mash.

many nurses here are looking for jobs because of lay offs due to budget restraints. Our govt are feeling the pitch after years of frivolous spending. I have told many young nurses to look out of province. You have to go where the jobs are. Many do not think that far to forensic.

Specializes in Geriatrics/family medicine.

thanks for sharing your experience! It really helped me see the picture of what it really is about

why does everyone compare reality to fictional shows as Law & Order. Its TV. Those are big words..must be big egos out there. Forensic science is good, but like most, hang your ego at the door. As long as everyone works togehter, and tells the patient they are full of ****, when need to be, it will work.

ANDDDDDD...If you tell a psych patient that they are full of it, you might as well go home.

Psych is a love/hate thing. Mental illness is an illness, and such needs to be managed. There's lots of "depends" in managing mental illness. Depends on if insurance will pay for meds, depends on moving patients out to alternate levels of care, depends on any number of things.

One of the great debates in mental health care is illness vs. character defect. People don't choose to have an illness where such stigma is attached.

Any number of mentally ill people believe themselves to be sane, therefore, maintaining a medication regime is daunting. Again, depends. If you or I were suddenly struck with a psychotic break of some kind, or depression or anxiety then we absolutely realize that something is off and need to seek help. To then be titrated down would cause some deep seeded anxieties. Someone who has been chronically mentally ill for most of their adult lives doesn't have the same frame of reference.

So "everyone working together" is wildly subjective.

Yay this article is awesome! Got a BA in forensic psych and now going for ADN. Ive been very interested in forensic psych nursing and have been learning more about this specialty.

Thanks!

Specializes in Addictions and psychiatry.

Interesting, I am at the same facility under Locums, also. We probably have crossed paths. So, Far, I have been there 2 months and I love the work. I do CRP. I am their first Physician Assistant.

Specializes in Psychiatric Nursing.

I will be back in July! I have learned so much there. So far I have worked in transitions and on the the neurobehavioral units. I started studying the state mental health laws. A very interesting place. I will send you a PM (private message).

Specializes in Psychiatry, Mental Health.

Dream Job. This is would really have been right up my alley. It is actually very similar to my job at a state psychiatric facility in the US. Thank you for giving us such a detailed and vivid description of your experience.

I'm only a little jealous.

Specializes in Addictions and psychiatry.

I look forward to meeting you, when you return, this summer. I am currently working with the CRP patients. I always look forward to sharing information with my fellow midlevel practitioners. I am the first PA, there. so far, they like my work and I find the treatment team to be very knowledgeable and cohesive.

I realize this is an old thread, but I'm curious...if I wanted to do forensic psychiatric nursing, what credentials would I need other than psych RN experience and PMHNP?

Specializes in Psychiatric Nursing.

When I took this job all I had was psych RN and APRN experience and credentials. I have been back 5 times as a locum tenens. States vary in how many forensic psychiatrist beds are allotted. In some states, I hear that prisons treat (or house) psychiatric patients, which does not seem right.

awesome, thanks. When I was in school we did our psychiatric rotation and Florida State Hospital and I was able to sit in on the group interviews with all of the team members. It was definitely something I was into. Another idea I like is working for an investigative unit to track down or speak to criminals. No idea which state I'll practice in as a PMHNP yet, but with the restrictions FL has on NP's and prescribing, I'm curious to see how the 2017 changes affect that.