Failed English 101 years ago for missing classes

  1. I am looking at applying for an ADN program at my local community college. I am confident that I will be able to score well on the TEAS, since I got a 1340/1600 on my SAT back in 2002, and am a very good test taker. I also have a new found motivation and sense of responsibility: I have a 8 month old son.

    The problem is I dropped out of college in 2008. I was making pretty good grades, but the last three semesters I was depressed, distracted and unmotivated. I didn't even bother to drop any classes and didn't attend them at all. I took English 101 three times and got an F each time just because I just didn't go to class. I was lazy and thought I could afford to miss a couple of days of an "easy" class. Well that just snowballed into never going to class.

    What I am needing to know is will the letter grade count? Am I doomed or do schools look at credits from other institutions as a pass/fail situation? The program I am looking is less difficult to get into than others. They only require a grade of C in the general education classes (English, Math and Science). They also have a minimum TEAS score of 75.
    The admission options are:

    a. Be eligible for BIO 210, ENG 101 and MAT 110 or MAT 120 and met the required score on the TEAS (Test of Essential
    Academic Skills). TEAS scores are valid for 2 years from testing date. Students may retest every 3 months or;
    b. Successful completer of all 9 Health Science Nursing Core Courses with a GPA of at least 2.75. (MAT and BIO time
    limits apply)

    Also do nursing programs allow you to "CLEP out" of classes? If I take the CLEP exam for English Comp and Biology will that count?
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  3. by   loriangel14
    OK I just got home from a very long evening and I am tired. I read the title of your post to mean you failed English one hundred and one years ago.Thanks for the giggle.

    Best of luck.
  4. by   Stephalump
    Quote from loriangel14
    OK I just got home from a very long evening and I am tired. I read the title of your post to mean you failed English one hundred and one years ago.Thanks for the giggle.

    Best of luck.
    Bahah! That's what I thought, too! All I could think was...over dramatic, much?
  5. by   caliotter3
    You will need to find out the policies of the program(s) that you are interested in applying to. Since you didn't name them, no one here can tell you if any of them accept CLEP tests or not, or for that matter, any of their other policies.
  6. by   junecarter
    Well I know I need to meet with an advisor to find out the exact policy regarding this situation. I am doing that on Tuesday. I am not asking for exact answers, I was just hoping someone could take an educated guess at it.
    I was hoping someone could say "Oh my school doesn't take CLEP credits when you are in the nursing program" or "My school won't allow you in the ASN program if you failed a course at another school, no matter how long ago" They don't say one way or another on the college's nursing page and I am getting really anxious waiting and not knowing one way or another.

    My option if I can't be accepted right away is to do the LPN program and after graduation apply to the ASN program.

    Any guesses or personal experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
  7. by   Stephalump
    Yes, the letter grade will count. It's most definitely not a pass/fail situation. You basically just need to retake it. I don't think you're ever discounted because you failed it at some point in history , but you do have to pass it eventually. Some will only look at your latest grade, some average your grades together. Need to know info.

    It's really hard to answer without knowing anything about your school. Where I went to college, you could not CLEP out of a class you'd already taken, but in sure that varies.

    Also, quite often what schools require is only a minimum. My program only "requires" a C in English, A&P 1, and Gen Psych to be accepted, but you're not getting in by doing the minimum. With only 40 spots and a points system, a 4.0 and completion of every Prereq is necessary to be competitive.
  8. by   nyteshade
    Most likely you'll need to actually attend English class this time around...I wouldn't stress it.
  9. by   junecarter
    Thanks. I know I have to take the class again and pass it. I just wanted to know if this automatically disqualifies me from ever being admitted to the program. I plan on taking BIO 210, ENG 101 and MAT 110 in the fall. I think I should be able to get a 4.0 given the fact that if I hadn't been so lazy and failed English I would have had a 3.75 GPA at my old school.

    Most of my classes don't transfer towards the ASN or LPN because I was getting a Bachelor's in Spanish. I had completed 60 credit hours, all As and Bs, but the only ones that will transfer are Psychology 101 and Public Speaking.

    The school is Horry Georgetown Technical College

    Horry-Georgetown Technical College :. Nursing Program
  10. by   Stephalump
    Nah, I can't imagine you'd ever automatically be excluded from applying once you've retaken it and passed.

    I think the most important thing you need to find out is the gpa requirement. If it's cumulative (including every attempt at your Gen Ed classes) that's going to be a bit of an uphill battle. 3 Fs is a lot to overcome. If they just take the last grade and you ace it next semester and do well in your other classes, the past Fs wouldn't even matter. Definitely the best case scenario!

    I don't think I'd even attempt to CLEP out of Bio even if it was allowed. It's not an easy course, complicated, and a lot of work. Unless you've taken it before, I'm thinking the odds of anyone passing it are slim to none.
    Last edit by Stephalump on Jun 3, '12
  11. by   junecarter
    Thank you so much! That helps a lot. The required GPA for the program is 2.00, if you are trying to get accepted and you need a 2.75.
    I am really hoping that they don't count the GPA from the past attempts. I spoke with someone regarding the Surgical Technology program and they said that the GPA starts from scratch so hopefully that is the case for the nursing program as well.

    I just read this, so hopefully it bodes well for my situation

    "Earn a minimum grade of “C” in all general education, support and nursing courses. An unsuccessful attempt of one required nursing course will result in the student being dropped from the program with eligibility for readmission. A student who has a second
    unsuccessful attempt in any one of the required nursing courses may apply for readmission to the nursing program if all other criteria are met after a two-year waiting period

    I haven't taken Biology since High School. I took honors Biology in 9th grade and got an A, but I am sure it will be a lot more difficult.

    Even if it is an uphill battle I am pretty set on giving it 100%, so hopefully that would be enough.

    Thanks again for the information, I appreciate getting some perspective on the situation.
    Last edit by junecarter on Jun 3, '12
  12. by   mzrainydayz
    Yes, you can take the Eng 101 over but at your exspense, because financial aid won't pay after two failures. The three f's wil show up on your transcript and affect your cummulative GPA, but not your prereq GPA for the nine nursing classes. Also one thing to keep in mind about HGTC nursing program, just because it said 2.75 that is just the min to turn app in, that GPA will not get you a seat. A 3.5 or better GPA will get you and a seat, not sure about Teas scores, but the higher the better. Good luck with your nursing journey.